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Calif. lawsuit challenges McCain candidacy
Legal News Line ^ | 8/13/08 | Chris Rizo

Posted on 08/13/2008 6:22:21 AM PDT by jasonmyos

SAN FRANCISCO (Legal Newsline)-A John McCain presidency would be illegal because the Arizona senator was not born in the United States, says a lawsuit filed by the American Independent Party.

The minor party says it wants McCain's name removed from ballots in California because federal law would bar the former Vietnam War POW from taking office were he to be elected in November, according to the lawsuit filed in U.S. District Court in San Francisco.

Article II of the U.S. Constitution disqualifies McCain from assuming office because he was born in the Commonwealth of Panama in 1936, while his father was stationed at Coco Solo Naval Air Station in the Panama Canal Zone, the lawsuit contends.

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TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2008; aip; democrats; election; electionpresident; elections; judiciary; keyes; markhamrobinson; mccain; mccainlist; republicans
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1 posted on 08/13/2008 6:22:21 AM PDT by jasonmyos
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To: jasonmyos

This is rich!


2 posted on 08/13/2008 6:23:21 AM PDT by Holicheese (Hillary deserves the CMoH for her time in Tuzla!)
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To: jasonmyos

Oh for heaven’s sake!

I thought this was settled months ago.


3 posted on 08/13/2008 6:23:24 AM PDT by Califreak (Time to give the empty suits a one way ticket to the cleaners!)
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To: jasonmyos

This is BS...........


4 posted on 08/13/2008 6:23:36 AM PDT by Red Badger (All that carbon in all that oil and coal was once in the atmosphere. We're just putting it back.....)
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To: jasonmyos

Didn’t the Senate pass a resolution stating that John McCain is eligible for the Presidency just a few months ago?


5 posted on 08/13/2008 6:24:39 AM PDT by elizabetty (Voting for McCain is like deciding to cut off your leg because it is stuck in a bear trap.)
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To: Red Badger
I love it - this certainly gives cover for those asking nicely to review Obamas birth certificiations.

Commonwealth my foot. CANAL ZONE - US TERRITORY babycakes!

6 posted on 08/13/2008 6:24:58 AM PDT by corkoman
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To: jasonmyos

obviously a preemptive attack.


7 posted on 08/13/2008 6:25:07 AM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: jasonmyos

American Independent Party?
What is that?
Independent?.....Dependent of what?


8 posted on 08/13/2008 6:25:16 AM PDT by Ulysse (i)
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To: jasonmyos
Isn't San Francisco a sanctuary city?
I guess they finally found an "illegal" they don't want.
9 posted on 08/13/2008 6:25:31 AM PDT by laotzu
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To: jasonmyos

Article II requires that you must be a natural born citizen of the United States. His parents were both US citizens, making him a natural born citizen. End of Story.


10 posted on 08/13/2008 6:26:07 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: jasonmyos

And what of his opponent, Captain Changeyhope, who has far LESS legal standing, with a non-citizen father. . .


11 posted on 08/13/2008 6:27:02 AM PDT by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border: I dare you to try and cross it. . .)
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To: jasonmyos

Looks like they’re worried that McCain is going to win.


12 posted on 08/13/2008 6:27:10 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW ("Make yourself sheep, and the wolves will eat you" Benjamin Franklin)
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To: jasonmyos

How about if someone files a lawsuit against Barack Hussein Obama for his lack of sanity!!!


13 posted on 08/13/2008 6:27:17 AM PDT by xc1427 (It's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees...Midnight Oil (Power and the Passion))
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To: jasonmyos

Okay. Well, I’ve just lost any last shred of remaining respect I had for Alan Keyes.


14 posted on 08/13/2008 6:27:32 AM PDT by WayneS (What the hell is wrong with these people?)
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To: jasonmyos

Wouldn’t it be funny if both McCain and Obama were disqualified? Might as well get a laugh out of all this.


15 posted on 08/13/2008 6:27:49 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Today Pelosi's going to save the planet. Last week she was Joan of Arc.)
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To: jasonmyos

Doesn’t matter where he was born. Both of his parents are American, hence McCain is American by birth, not naturalization. End of story. The guys filing this suit are assclowns.


16 posted on 08/13/2008 6:28:45 AM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what an Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: jasonmyos

Aside from the fact, McCain was born to an active duty Naval officer on deployment, this was already decided in court, so bring it on. Only makes it easier and “fair” to demand the same disclosure from the other candidates in the race.


17 posted on 08/13/2008 6:29:16 AM PDT by IamConservative (On 11/4, remember 9/11...)
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To: jasonmyos

Wow!! I knew we were going to need popcorn this election cycle, just NOT this much!!

Bring it on, AIP!!! You challenge McCain and it opens the door to challenging Obama’s birth certificate.

Like Kerry with his SF-180, Obama could settle the whole issue if he would release his true COLB from Hawaii. The fact that he hasn’t raises lots of questions.


18 posted on 08/13/2008 6:31:10 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: jasonmyos

This issue is sooooo stuuupid! The Panama Canal Zone was US Territory before the asshat clown Jimmy Carter gave it away with the Canal!!!


19 posted on 08/13/2008 6:32:06 AM PDT by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: jasonmyos

As long as your parents are both natural born American citizens you are a natural born American citizen no matter where you are born. At least that’s how I understand it. The Panama canal zone in 1936 was American territory anyways so its a moot point and the Senate already decided on this months ago.

Why don’t they start looking into the Messiah? He’s the one with a foreign national for a father and a questionable birthplace and birth certificate.


20 posted on 08/13/2008 6:32:53 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: jasonmyos
Frivolous and non-sensical.

McCain was born at the Coco Solo Naval Air Station in the Panama Canal Zone, which was then Sovereign American territory. Both his father and grandfather were high-ranking Admirals in the U.S. Navy.

Don't these idiots bother to read U.S. law and history?

21 posted on 08/13/2008 6:33:11 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: jasonmyos
This Chris Rizo?
22 posted on 08/13/2008 6:33:13 AM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: doc30; jasonmyos

> The guys filing this suit are assclowns. <

Not only that:

The complaint is so absurd and so frivolous that the plaintiff and her attorney should be sacntioned by the Court. I believe the federal statutes and precedents would give the District Judge wide latitude to do so.


23 posted on 08/13/2008 6:33:44 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: jasonmyos

Alan Keyes is a steaming jackass.


24 posted on 08/13/2008 6:33:48 AM PDT by Petronski (The God of Life will condemn the Chinese government. Laogai means GULAG.)
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To: jasonmyos
And what makes them think that Obama has good credentials or ever registered for selective service?
25 posted on 08/13/2008 6:34:03 AM PDT by weegee (Hi there.)
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To: corkoman
...this certainly gives cover for those asking nicely to review Obamas birth certificiations.

Is this an "I'll show you mine if you'll show me yours" moment?

26 posted on 08/13/2008 6:35:33 AM PDT by TexasRedeye (Eschew obfuscation)
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To: Savage Beast
Wouldn’t it be funny if both McCain and Obama were disqualified? Might as well get a laugh out of all this.

It would be real funny. Well, funny right up to the moment they start swearing in Hillary as President. Then it would cease being funny.

27 posted on 08/13/2008 6:35:39 AM PDT by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: Ulysse
American Independent Party?

What is that?

Independent?.....Dependent of what?

Soros?

28 posted on 08/13/2008 6:36:21 AM PDT by Gorzaloon
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To: pissant

notice they are not challenging Barry’s birth certificate....interesting.


29 posted on 08/13/2008 6:37:27 AM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (Some days it is not worth chewing through the restraints.)
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To: corkoman
Any US territory qualifies for citizenship at birth. This suit is useful because it also indirectly asks the same question about Obammy.
30 posted on 08/13/2008 6:37:44 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Petronski

This is not the Alan Keyes I knew.


31 posted on 08/13/2008 6:37:57 AM PDT by weegee (Hi there.)
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To: jasonmyos

This is a good thing. A legal dust up over the eligibility of McCain and Obama may cause us to insist that candidates for public office establish their eligibility before competent authority, not just assert that they are eligible. Far more Democrats than Republicans will fall afoul of this sort of scruitny.

As for this lawsuit, its frivilous and should be treated as such. Its just designed to garner free publicity for this wacko and obscure group. They succeeded.


32 posted on 08/13/2008 6:38:12 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: jasonmyos

This is a nonstarter but it should be a precedent for those with questions about just Where Hussein was born. Such suits in many states could force O’Bama to produce a real BC and prove its provenance (or quit the race.)


33 posted on 08/13/2008 6:39:40 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: IncPen

I thought this was settled long ago.


34 posted on 08/13/2008 6:40:03 AM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: jasonmyos
The American Independent Party has “nominated” Alan Keyes for president. I guess they're not concerned about Obama occupying the White House.
35 posted on 08/13/2008 6:41:43 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

“McCain was born at the Coco Solo Naval Air Station in the Panama Canal Zone”

I think the actual hospital was off-base in Panama proper, not the Zone. It does not matter, though, as long as his parents are both US citizens he could have been born in the Mars Colony.

Hey, maybe the judge will expand the suit to cover Obama, who had one underage citizen parent and a non-citizen parent?


36 posted on 08/13/2008 6:42:32 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: centurion316

“insist that candidates for public office establish their eligibility “

This will beome more important as children of illegal immigrants grow up.


37 posted on 08/13/2008 6:43:47 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: jasonmyos
Alan Keyes is the most ethical and righteous man in America. Or so say his defenders. Where are they now that he is suing on the basis that John McCain is not a Natural Born U.S. citizen?

Keyes has abandoned any sense of rationality to hold onto what little fame and impact he has left.

38 posted on 08/13/2008 6:44:53 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: jasonmyos
As the good General said “ don't get stuck on stupid”!!!!!!

ANd don't forget Forrest Gump, “ stupid is as stupid does”.

39 posted on 08/13/2008 6:46:12 AM PDT by onlylewis (libs want a two class system, one rich one poor)
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To: DustyMoment

While Osama Obama is “vacationing” in Hawaii this week, he’s working on clean-up duties to remedy any questions about his citizenship.


40 posted on 08/13/2008 6:47:33 AM PDT by RasterMaster (Rudy McRomneyson = KENNEDY wing of the Republican Party)
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To: IncPen

I thought this was settled long ago.


41 posted on 08/13/2008 6:52:01 AM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: jasonmyos

Right question, wrong candidate


42 posted on 08/13/2008 6:54:36 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (College kid: "Do you have a minute for Obama?" NVA: "Not now or ever.")
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

This is where my wife tells me, “don’t give me that lawyer sh*t”, but technically, he wouldn’t have been born at Coco Solo because there wasn’t a hospital there. The US hospital was at Ancon, on the Pacific side, so he might have been born outside the CZ at a Panamanian hospital. Does that matter WRT having been born overseas to military parents? Probably not - my daughter was born at Gorgas Army Medical Center (Ancon Hospital) while I was assigned in Panama, and she has a “Certificate of Birth Abroad of United States Citizen” (which we guard with our lives, since you only get one and it’s an odyssey of epic proportions to get a copy from the State Department).

Colonel, USAFR


43 posted on 08/13/2008 6:57:15 AM PDT by jagusafr ("Bugs, Mr. Rico! Zillions of 'em!" - Robert Heinlein)
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To: jasonmyos

obamamama was born in Kenya by a non citizen father and citizen mother which makes him of questionable citizenship.

Where is our lawsuit?


44 posted on 08/13/2008 6:58:40 AM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: jasonmyos
American Independent Party.

Ahh, Chuck Baldwin's little minions out there. (I think they officially nominated Alan Keyes, however, they are putting Baldwin on their ticket because the Constitution Party doesn't have a ticket representation in Cali.)

45 posted on 08/13/2008 7:00:59 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Holicheese

Clogging up the courts with stupidity.

A Democrat specialty.


46 posted on 08/13/2008 7:01:09 AM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: jasonmyos
This is in response to all the nonsense about Obama's citizenship.

Long and short is McCain is a natural born U.S. citizen because both his parents were U.S. citizens. Obama is a natural born U.S. citizen because he was born in Hawaii.

47 posted on 08/13/2008 7:01:50 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: corkoman
He could have been born in Holland for all that matters legally because both of his parents where US Citizens, unlike, err.. hmmmm, who was that other guy?
48 posted on 08/13/2008 7:02:16 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: laotzu
"I guess they finally found an "illegal" they don't want."

That is hysterical, lol

49 posted on 08/13/2008 7:03:43 AM PDT by TexasBeth
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To: Non-Sequitur
Obama is a natural born U.S. citizen because he was born in Hawaii.

Really?

And how is it that you know this?

50 posted on 08/13/2008 7:04:25 AM PDT by colorcountry (To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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