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One Year after shootout, Deputies seek $8 MILLION from Widow
Placerville info ^ | August 10, 2008 | Dorothy Korber

Posted on 08/13/2008 3:36:41 PM PDT by Lizavetta

A carved post and a boulder mark the place where Eddie Mies gunned down his dad last year on the family's rustic homestead in Shingle Springs.

Up the hill a little farther, among the dusty pines and chaparral, stands another wooden post and a cairn of smaller rocks. This is where Mies, who was 34, died of bullet wounds from the ensuing gun battle with El Dorado County deputies.

Three deputies and a police dog also were hit in the firefight that morning; all survived.

The bloody date was June 5, 2007. Karen Mies, staggering under the news that her son had murdered her husband, told a family friend she was grateful for one thing: The wounded deputies were alive.

One year later to the day, two of the deputies filed a civil lawsuit against the widow and the estate of her deceased husband, Arthur, and her son. Officers Jon Yaws and Greg Murphy – both recovered and back at work – each is suing the Mies family for $4 million for emotional distress, medical expenses, loss of earning capacity, and punitive damages.

Given her modest circumstances, the 66-year-old hospice nurse says their $8 million claim would be laughable – if the whole situation were not so heartbreaking.

"June 5 was a tragic day for me and my family, and it was a tragic day for the deputies who were injured," Karen Mies said. "We were all victims that day. But this lawsuit is victimizing our family again. What do they want? My husband's dead, my son's dead. Do they want my house and my 10-year-old car?"

In their lawsuit, Yaws and Murphy allege the Mies family was negligent in failing to control their troubled son Eddie, behavior that led to the gunbattle and their injuries. Yaws was wounded in the arm, chest and leg; Murphy was struck once in the leg.

In addition to their physical injuries, the suit alleges the deputies suffered anxiety and humiliation.

Such lawsuits by police officers are highly unusual – and hard to win, according to several experts in tort law. They point to a long-standing legal tenet called "the firefighter's rule," which generally precludes emergency workers injured in the line of duty from suing citizens.

"With the firefighter's rule, the reasoning is that they voluntarily agreed to undertake these risks – they know going in that fighting crime or fighting fires is dangerous," said Julie Davies, a professor at McGeorge School of Law. "Additionally, they are paid well to encounter the risks. They're given a whole packet of benefits to compensate them if they're injured, so allowing them to sue citizens would almost be like double taxation."

Davies said there's another consideration, as well: "If people worry that they might be sued by police officers or firefighters, they might hesitate to call on them for help. And that would be bad public policy."

Yaws and Murphy are represented by Sacramento lawyer Phillip Mastagni, whose family law firm works for police unions across Northern California. Mastagni declined to let his clients be interviewed. He also said he would not discuss the case in detail.

"The lawsuit speaks for itself," Mastagni said. "But I just want to say this: We are confident that the firefighter's rule will not bar the claim."

Filed in El Dorado Superior Court, the lawsuit claims that Eddie Mies should have known that he was "afflicted with certain mental health conditions" that would result in dangerous and violent behavior.

It also states his parents knew or should have known that it was "necessary to avoid allowing Eddie Mies access to firearms," and were negligent in allowing him that access.

In addition to Eddie Mies and his parents, the lawsuit also names his brother Jacob as a defendant. It states that Jacob Mies misled the first officers who arrived at the scene by not immediately informing them that Eddie had killed his father.

Many of the claims cited in the suit are disputed by the Mies family.

The suit alleges Eddie Mies was a diagnosed schizophrenic – not true, according to his mother. She said his mental problems were undiagnosed because he resisted treatment.

"He began showing unusual symptoms and fears about six years before he died," she said. "We tried several times to have him evaluated – we even talked him into going to the emergency room a couple of times. The first time, a doctor talked to him for about five minutes. The next time, a 2-year-old was screaming in the waiting room and Eddie bolted."

The suit also claims the family should have known of "Eddie's mental illness, drug abuse, criminal history, paranoia and propensity for violence."

The criminal history, according to Karen Mies, amounts to traffic arrests in Reno and Wyoming.

As for foreknowledge of violence, she said her son was clearly depressed but there was nothing to indicate he would snap. She contends the family had no reason to be wary – and that Eddie's murder of his father shows they were not.

"Eddie never appeared to be a danger to himself or anyone else," she said. "That would have been legal grounds to have him committed, but it never reached that point. He was gentle and kind."

The suit, which claims the deputies were the victims of a well-planned ambush, contains this depiction of the shootout's aftermath: "Eddie Mies was found dead in a bunker with a cache of weapons and ammunition, as well as a change of clothes. A survey of the property revealed an elaborate system of bunkers and tunnels."

This description leaves Karen Mies shaking her head. Her responses: The two weapons he used – a shotgun and a revolver – were guns he owned legally as an adult. The ammunition cache was an old toolbox holding bullets, birdshot and other odds and ends. The change of clothes was a jacket.

As for the bunkers and tunnels, Karen Mies led a walking tour of her 2 1/2 acres. She and Arthur raised their six children here; Eddie, the second youngest, was 2 when they moved in.

It's a typical foothills property – a small blue house on Shingle Road, a garden, several pickup trucks in various states of repair, quiet except for wind chimes and the bark of a distant dog. A neighboring property of similar size recently sold for $250,000.

American flags and patriotic ribbons decorate the fence in support of U.S. troops – Art Mies, who was 71 when he died, was a proud Air Force veteran.

Karen Mies walked past the memorial to her husband at the spot where he was sawing firewood when Eddie shot him in the back. She led the way up the hill, through dead corn that Eddie had planted near the small travel trailer where he was living the last year of his life.

She stopped at a wire fence on her property line and pointed to a shallow depression in the ground.

"There were a couple of holes up here where the kids used to play – they've been here for years," she said. She nodded toward a trail that wound away through the brush. "There are trails like that through the grass. When I read 'tunnels' and 'bunkers' in the lawsuit, I couldn't believe it."

An official investigation of the incident might yield some answers. More than a year later, however, the El Dorado County District Attorney's Office still has not issued its findings. Ballistics tests by the state Department of Justice – to determine who shot whom – are also not finished.

Last month, the El Dorado County Sheriff's Department rejected The Bee's written request for results of its investigation into the Mies case.

Asked to comment on the deputies' lawsuit, Sheriff Jeff Neves sent an e-mail response: "A sheriff's employee is exercising his individual rights as a citizen and in doing so does not officially represent the department in any way."

Bill Clark, El Dorado County's chief deputy district attorney, said his office has been too busy to wind up the case. There have been three other deputy-involved fatal shootings in the county since Eddie Mies' death.

"There's just too much pressing stuff," Clark said. "I've read the results of the Mies investigation, I have an opinion on it, but I have to check the facts."

Greg Murphy now works for the El Dorado District Attorney's Office as an investigator. Jon Yaws is back at work as a deputy sheriff. Donder, the injured police dog, retired from service and is now "spoiled rotten," according to Melissa Meekma, who was the third deputy wounded that day.

Meekma's shoulder was shattered when a shot penetrated the seam of her bullet-proof vest. Healed physically but still struggling with post-traumatic stress, she took a medical retirement from the Sheriff's Department, effective June 30. She is 28.

Her own trials have made her sympathetic to the plight of the Mies family, Meekma said, and she has declined to sue them.

"I went through my own hard times, and I did some soul-searching," she said. "My job was to protect that day, and that's what I did. That's the risk I took – and I know the price I paid. I cannot imagine what Karen Mies went through, burying a husband and a son."

Meekma said she's made her peace with Eddie Mies.

"Part of my healing was to forgive Eddie Mies," she said. "He was very sick – he needed help, too. … I had nightmares for a while. When I decided not to be part of the lawsuit, my nightmares stopped."

Karen Mies says the loss of her husband of four decades – "my good guy" – is a constant ache. But it's the riddle of her son that haunts her.

"Eddie's life was tragic and sad – he was battling these demons, but he couldn't see that he had a problem and we couldn't get help for him," she said. "My consolation was that by living here with us, we knew he was safe. There was a warm, dry place in winter. He had food to eat.

"Parents want to fix things for their kids – it's hard when you can't fix it. So you hope and pray."

She stood in reverie near the family's memorial for Eddie. Here he died of his wounds after firing on an army of police for nearly an hour.

Does she ever think of moving away from the ghosts on Shingle Road?

"No," she said, a little surprised by the question. "I belong here."


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1 posted on 08/13/2008 3:36:42 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: Lizavetta

I’d be curious to know what law enforcement FReepers think of the actions of these two deputies.


2 posted on 08/13/2008 3:37:50 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: Lizavetta

bump


3 posted on 08/13/2008 3:43:43 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: Lizavetta

I’ll go on record as saying it is deplorable and dishonorable.


4 posted on 08/13/2008 3:44:17 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Alaska has the oil. The Senate has the dipsticks.)
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To: bamahead

Insane...


5 posted on 08/13/2008 3:44:33 PM PDT by KoRn (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: Lizavetta

Let’s see, this was a grown man clearly mentally disturbed, whom the police ultimately had to shoot to stop his rampage. Yet his elderly parents were somehow supposed to “control” him, supposedly so the cops would be spared the bother, and risk, of actually DOING THE JOB THEY SIGNED UP FOR. I guess so they could spend more time kicking down innocent people’s doors and shooting their dogs. I used to be a big supporter of law enforcement, but I’m losing respect for them with each passing day.

I’m sorry for the


6 posted on 08/13/2008 3:44:53 PM PDT by kms61
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To: kms61

I wish there was an edit feature. I was so mad I couldn’t type straight.


7 posted on 08/13/2008 3:45:57 PM PDT by kms61
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To: Lizavetta

The cops must think she owns a really nice farm.


8 posted on 08/13/2008 3:46:35 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Congrasites = Congressional parasites.)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

They could just plant drugs there and confiscate the place. Wait, I shouldn’t have given them any ideas.


9 posted on 08/13/2008 3:47:28 PM PDT by kms61
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To: Lizavetta

Am I missing something? The deputies were killed by her son. Her son was over 18 at the time. How exactly is she or her husbands estate even relevant?


10 posted on 08/13/2008 3:47:48 PM PDT by RobRoy (This is comical)
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To: Albion Wilde
The only thing I can figure out is that the lawyer sniffed out an insurance policy somewhere in this lady's life to ransack. I know precisely where this is and where she lives. She's got a regular 3bd/2ba plain old house, and that's about it.

Imagine what this poor lady has gone through and what she is now facing from these "men".

11 posted on 08/13/2008 3:48:57 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: Lizavetta

>>Imagine what this poor lady has gone through and what she is now facing from these “men”.<<

Reminds me of a great lyric from a country song called “Forgive”:

“That’s a mighty big boy, for such a small man.”


12 posted on 08/13/2008 3:50:13 PM PDT by RobRoy (This is comical)
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To: RobRoy

>>How exactly is she or her husbands estate even relevant?>>

Because she has the deepest pockets of anyone related to the incident. No guilt needed.


13 posted on 08/13/2008 3:50:55 PM PDT by Righter-than-Rush
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To: RobRoy

The deputies were not killed.


14 posted on 08/13/2008 3:53:47 PM PDT by bruoz
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To: Lizavetta
In answer to your question, I hope the claim is thrown out of court at first opportunity. Then, I hope the court awards fat fees and costs against the attorney who filed this baseless claim. Sleazy lawyers need to be hit where it hurts, right in the wallet.

Congressman Billybob

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15 posted on 08/13/2008 3:54:38 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (www.theacru.org)
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To: Lizavetta

The “deputies” need to be fired and the judge needs to throw out the their claims and bill them for the wasted time of the court.


16 posted on 08/13/2008 3:55:13 PM PDT by DB
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To: Lizavetta

I’m sure if circumstances were different she would have not been able to sue.


17 posted on 08/13/2008 3:55:52 PM PDT by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: RobRoy

No deputies were killed. Only the woman’s husband and son. The son killed the father, then the deputies killed the son. No deputies were killed.


18 posted on 08/13/2008 3:56:48 PM PDT by bajabaja
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To: bruoz
In addition to their physical injuries, the suit alleges the deputies suffered anxiety and humiliation.

No, they weren't killed. But they were humiliated. Shouldn't someone compensate them for the pain of being humiliated? Shouldn't this lady with dead family members all around her somehow try to make them feel better?

(off sarc)

19 posted on 08/13/2008 3:57:02 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: bruoz

>.The deputies were not killed.<<

Sorry, killed=injured.


20 posted on 08/13/2008 3:57:32 PM PDT by RobRoy (This is comical)
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To: Lizavetta

These guys are the lowest of the low. This is disgusting...have these clowns ever hear of honor???


21 posted on 08/13/2008 3:59:23 PM PDT by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Lizavetta

I feel for the cops but in my opinion there is no case here and the lawyer who filed it should be disbarred, but then we are only getting one side of the story which is typical of the media.


22 posted on 08/13/2008 4:00:15 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: Lizavetta
In addition to their physical injuries, the suit alleges the deputies suffered anxiety and humiliation.

They are about to get a lot more.

These are cops? PATHETIC.

23 posted on 08/13/2008 4:01:31 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (A citizen using a weapon to shoot a criminal is the ultimate act of independence from government.)
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To: RobRoy
"First, kill all the lawyers"
Shakespere
24 posted on 08/13/2008 4:01:57 PM PDT by GoldMan (Never try to rationalize an irrational mind............)
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To: Lizavetta

I would love to be the first judge this piece of junk shows up before. They’d get all of two minutes before they got thrown out on their ears.


25 posted on 08/13/2008 4:02:35 PM PDT by Bahbah (Typical white person-Snow white)
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To: Lizavetta
like the broad that tried to sue a family for slipping on water on the floor from their daughter almost drowning in the pool...

wait till the humiliation from losing the lawsuit sets in.

26 posted on 08/13/2008 4:03:56 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - CTHULHU/NYARLATHOTEP'08 = Nothing LESS!!!)
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To: Lizavetta
If SWAT members can sue the mother of the man they killed, shouldn't the mother of the man they killed be able to sue them? Sounds like a bad precedent for black-masked paramilitary police officers everywhere...
27 posted on 08/13/2008 4:05:28 PM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: Congressman Billybob

Exactly. File a Rule 11 Motion for sanctions right before the Motion for Summary Judgment.


28 posted on 08/13/2008 4:05:39 PM PDT by Unknowing (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.)
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To: Lizavetta

American Law Enforcement has sunk to a new all-time low. Maybe they can go after a 7-year old orphan next time. I thought they had reached rock bottom when that chick cop tried suing the parents of the boy who drowned and she slipped by the pool and hurt her knee. At least she had some shame left and dropped the suit.


29 posted on 08/13/2008 4:12:03 PM PDT by rednesss (Fred Thompson - 2008)
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To: Congressman Billybob
This sounds remarkably like a child custody/property/support claim.

The deputies must have been turned down for representation by lawyers who know something about this sort of thing so they turned to their divorce lawyer.

In fact, I think I know the ol'gals name ~ but she's in LA somewhere ~ representing a guy who regularly posts on FR concerning "Father's Rights". Just put that in the "keywords" section on your next article and he'll pop right up.

30 posted on 08/13/2008 4:15:53 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Lizavetta

This country is swirling the drain, thanks to trial lawyers and the civil rights industry.


31 posted on 08/13/2008 4:16:10 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Alaska has the oil. The Senate has the dipsticks.)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

I just checked her property’s assessed value for taxes, it’s not even $65,000.


32 posted on 08/13/2008 4:16:39 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Black dogs and bacon bombs.)
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To: Lizavetta

A shining example on how to go from hero to greedy scum in only moments...


33 posted on 08/13/2008 4:19:42 PM PDT by DB
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To: Lizavetta

I have heard that in China, the government charges the family of an executed prisoner for the cartridges used to kill the prisoner. I have always thought this was the depths of cruelty, but these LEOs are equaling that abysmal record! I cannot fathom their thought processes and their lawyer would probably make my skin crawl. I think that this is another case that shows the need for the ‘loser pays’ civil suit costs.


34 posted on 08/13/2008 4:25:12 PM PDT by SES1066 (Cycling to conserve, Conservative to save, Saving to Retire, will Retire to Cycle.)
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To: Lizavetta
It seems more and more when LEO’s or EMT’s are hurt on the job they sue the parties that caused their injuries rather than apply for the insurance city/state governments provide them.
Case in point where this policewoman sued the parents of a child she was called to help - she slipped on a wet floor in the house (her claim) ....

But then, in our society when a burglar or home invader is hurt breaking in they can sue the homeowner .... guess it's the way things are going now .....

35 posted on 08/13/2008 5:15:08 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("What Our Enemies Couldn't Do To Us Our Politicians Will")
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To: Lizavetta
Thing One and Thing Two:

And the widow they are suing, standing next to her now-deceased husband:


36 posted on 08/13/2008 5:27:26 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: Lizavetta

I am married to a Police Chief and he is apalled!


37 posted on 08/13/2008 5:39:57 PM PDT by copwife (All God's creatures have a place in the choir!)
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To: RobRoy
Am I missing something?

Yes, you are.

38 posted on 08/13/2008 5:40:46 PM PDT by adversarial (the pros and cons of voting for)
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To: DB

There are no limits on greed when it involves money.


39 posted on 08/13/2008 5:46:20 PM PDT by chiefqc
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To: copwife
A non-participant in the lawsuit was the other deputy that got shot, and the cop dog:


40 posted on 08/13/2008 5:55:53 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: Lizavetta
I want to be one of the first to contribute to a suit against these two dirt bags and their slimeball attorney for harassment,whatever. Someone please start it!
41 posted on 08/13/2008 6:03:18 PM PDT by totsy
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To: KoRn; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; ...
Last month, the El Dorado County Sheriff's Department rejected The Bee's written request for results of its investigation into the Mies case.

Libertarian ping! To be added or removed freepmail me or post a message here.
42 posted on 08/13/2008 6:25:58 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: Lizavetta

Former reserve LEO. I think it’s wrong of them. They came for a fight. They got one.


43 posted on 08/13/2008 6:45:15 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Centurion2000
These are cops? PATHETIC.

This happened in my town. These deputies were heroes after this happened. Now they look like money grubbing schmucks.

44 posted on 08/13/2008 6:45:46 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: bamahead
Thanks for the ping. What vile parasites these scumbags are.

Credit where credit is due goes to the doggie and the the third officer who was shot:

Her own trials have made her sympathetic to the plight of the Mies family, Meekma said, and she has declined to sue them.

"I went through my own hard times, and I did some soul-searching," she said. "My job was to protect that day, and that's what I did. That's the risk I took – and I know the price I paid. I cannot imagine what Karen Mies went through, burying a husband and a son."

Meekma said she's made her peace with Eddie Mies.

"Part of my healing was to forgive Eddie Mies," she said. "He was very sick – he needed help, too. … I had nightmares for a while. When I decided not to be part of the lawsuit, my nightmares stopped."

45 posted on 08/13/2008 7:20:09 PM PDT by ellery (It's a free country.)
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To: RobRoy
“Am I missing something? The deputies were killed by her son. Her son was over 18 at the time. How exactly is she or her husbands estate even relevant?”

Reading comprehension problems? Your ignorance is stupefying. I suppose you have been rectified before now but your ignorance is stupefying. You need help dude.

46 posted on 08/13/2008 7:41:14 PM PDT by monday
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To: Lizavetta

Man, I want to comment on this so bad, but the SacBee site won’t recognize my login even though it activated my account. I can’t say here what I want to say about these two scumsuckers. They are lower than whale doo-doo - and THAT’S at the bottom of the ocean.


47 posted on 08/13/2008 7:49:44 PM PDT by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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” am married to a Police Chief and he is apalled!”

Kiss your husband because he may be the last honest law enforcement officer in America. Tell him we love him.

48 posted on 08/13/2008 7:53:31 PM PDT by monday
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bttt


49 posted on 08/13/2008 8:37:34 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: Lizavetta

Cops just ain’t what they used to be anymore.

Any valid court will toss this; the respondant is deceased.


50 posted on 08/13/2008 8:42:19 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Jimmy Carter is the skidmark in the panties of American History)
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