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McCain alarms base with abortion comment
Politico ^ | 8/14/2008 | Jonathan Martin

Posted on 08/14/2008 8:54:39 PM PDT by Alter Kaker

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1 posted on 08/14/2008 8:54:39 PM PDT by Alter Kaker
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To: Alter Kaker

Read Between the Lines.

No Abortion Litmus Test for Vice President means No Abortion Litmus Test For a Supreme Court Justice.


2 posted on 08/14/2008 8:57:36 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: Alter Kaker; Das Outsider

I believe that Government is not to blame for this wholesale slaughter of the innocent. Moral decisions come from Bible-Torah literacy, (Psalm 139), not from legislation. Roe v. Wade aside, we have not been forced to kill our babies. Abortion statistics are staggering because we (yes, I mean Judeo-Christians) have chosen to murder our unborn.

I believe that liberals have used the abortion debate to divide and conquer. We need to stop this naive militancy. In Deuteronomy 11, God tells us clearly how to raise moral people.

“And you shall teach them (God’s statutes and ordinances… V1) to your sons, talking of them when you sit in your house and when you walk along the road and when you lie down and when you rise up.” V19.

Though separation of church and state cannot be found in the Constitution, the following might be a better way to view the concept… Morality is personal and none of the Government’s business. Anything otherwise is kin to dictating religion.

I believe that the Government is a business and should be run as a business. We should elect a fiscally conservative leader. We should elect a military leader. We should elect a Godly leader. Moreover, we should be informed and not easily swayed by an anti-American agenda disguised as “concern”. It is nothing but pathetic, alarmist rhetoric. Abortion and terrorism are both wars against humanity. But the battleground for the unborn should be waged from the home (church), not the Supreme Court!


3 posted on 08/14/2008 8:58:01 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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Wow, I'm glad we have the MSM to honestly, with no bias, tell us what a candidate means when they say something.. I mean jeeze.. if it weren't for the MSM, the letters VP wouldn't be found anywhere in McCain's statement... boy, I'm sure glad I don't have to think for myself.. just trust the MSM...
4 posted on 08/14/2008 8:59:35 PM PDT by mnehring (http://www.heyobamababy.com/obama_baby_cool_cat.htm)
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To: Alter Kaker

McDole is a douche bag, no doubt about it.


5 posted on 08/14/2008 8:59:41 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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“That’s not where they’d want him going,” Hoekstra said of the party base.”

Ha! As if McCain cares what we think.

He had better not dare choose Tom Ridge or Loserman.


6 posted on 08/14/2008 8:59:44 PM PDT by GOPGuide
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To: Alter Kaker

If McCain picks a pro-abortion vp he is toast. There is nothing that will get evangelicals to support him after that.


7 posted on 08/14/2008 8:59:55 PM PDT by Maelstorm (John McCain is ready to be commander in chief)
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To: Alter Kaker

Comrade Juan McNuts is not Conservative.


8 posted on 08/14/2008 9:00:37 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Bernanke is a Monetary Slut!)
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To: Jo Nuvark

Sorry, but McCain is a tool and an enabler of the Left.

I’ll vote for the jerk, but I’ll need a dose of Ipecac and a bath afterwards.


9 posted on 08/14/2008 9:00:58 PM PDT by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: Jo Nuvark
we have not been forced to kill our babies

Not generally in this country, but most definitely the case in China.

In this country, it is kind of borderline when an organization such as Planned Parenthood, which receives government i.e. taxpayer money, encourages and facilitates a teenage mother's abortion without her parent's knowledge.

10 posted on 08/14/2008 9:01:52 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurtureĀ™)
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To: Jo Nuvark

That is a strange position. What is law, except legislated morality.

Given your argument, murder in all forms would be legal.


11 posted on 08/14/2008 9:02:20 PM PDT by Marie2 (Everything the left does has the effect and intent of destroying the traditional family.)
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"it would be the kiss of death."

Both literally and figuratively. If McCain picks a pro-abort VP, it would be the first time in my adult life I do not vote for the Republican--after nine times of doing so.

12 posted on 08/14/2008 9:03:34 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (GO CUBS GO! RECREATE '08! 1908!)
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To: Maelstorm
If McCain picks a pro-abortion vp he is toast. There is nothing that will get evangelicals to support him after that.

Like I said in an earlier thread, even if he doesn't end up picking a pro-abortion VP (which would ensure his loss), the fact that he says he'd even consider it is a real problem for me.

13 posted on 08/14/2008 9:03:47 PM PDT by mngran2
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To: Jo Nuvark

I totally agree... on principle that is.

In America we have a Christian standard that was the original intent of the founders. They saw we would fall without that moral code.

Now if the legislature and judicial branch of government rule that killing babies is alright, we need to kick them out and start over with people who believe more in our original focus... a God-centered nation.

On the other hand, I don’t expect the government to teach my children not to have abortions any more than I believe it is the governments responsibility to raise and educate my children. We are responsible for ourselves and anyone else we bring into this world.

If our children are deceived it’s because they either took advantage of free will, or that we failed in training them up in the way they should go.

You have spoken mighty well.


14 posted on 08/14/2008 9:06:00 PM PDT by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com)
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Like I said in an earlier thread, even if he doesn't end up picking a pro-abortion VP (which would ensure his loss), the fact that he says he'd even consider it is a real problem for me.

Exactly. It says that if he's President he'd probably consider a pro-abort attorney general, pro-abort district court judges, pro-abort appellate court judges, and pro-abort supreme court justices. Abortion is clearly not an issue McCain that cares about, and he's not even interested in listening to his base.

15 posted on 08/14/2008 9:07:19 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: trumandogz

Ok We did not send him money.


16 posted on 08/14/2008 9:07:54 PM PDT by fatima
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To: Jo Nuvark
I believe that Government is not to blame for this wholesale slaughter of the innocent.

Unplanned Nonparenthood supports and encourages such, surprisingly, in government-run schools. But why do they have so much power?

Abortion and terrorism are both wars against humanity.

And devil-may-care mass migration is a war against what nation we have left. We need to fight all of these battles on their respective fronts.

No man-made institution can possibly save us. Go back to the basics.
17 posted on 08/14/2008 9:07:55 PM PDT by Das Outsider (They're here. Deport now. Pay less to Mexico.)
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If he chooses as his VP candidate someone who supports abortion, that’s it, I won’t vote for him. No ifs, ands, or buts. Murder of babies is where I draw the line. I’ve forced myself to just get over it on his immigration stance, his globull warming policies, and his back-stabbing of conservatives. I’m already ashamed of myself, but I despise Obama. If he caves on the abortion issue, that’s it, that’s my line in the sand.


18 posted on 08/14/2008 9:09:11 PM PDT by mrsmel
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To: Marie2; Das Outsider; steve86; Westbrook

I’m just saying this post Christian nation has no
authority to decide if there is life in the womb.

We’ve lost our way. Now that we are secular, let’s
stick to nation management and leave moral instruction
for parents.


19 posted on 08/14/2008 9:09:14 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Alter Kaker

If McCain picks a pro-choice VP candidate, I’ll probably sit this one out.

It would be both a slap in the face and a knife in the back to grass roots supporters.


20 posted on 08/14/2008 9:10:33 PM PDT by newberger (Christ is risen from the dead, trampling down death by death!)
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