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To: Jo Nuvark
because your view on abortion and ending the legality of it is pretty way out of the mainstream here ...your little fan club here notwithstanding

ending the legality of infanticide is a crucible issue for most of us here and is very high of the wish list of the board's founder

yet you claim that we should just let government manage business ( a platitude which is pretty broad)

and by default leave abortion legal ..

that is something I will never submit to and I'm surprised to hear a conservative say as such

you make this claim sort of about government not entering morality which one would believe means you don't cotton to religion in government yet your tagline is a pet Bible verse for Jews and some Christians advocating US foreign policy that favors Israel based on Scripture.*

*my own personal support of Israel has nothing to do with my Christianity

so do you favor leaving abortion laws alone since the government has no business dealing in morality (what about killing?) but you think it's ok to base foreign policy on morality (religion)

154 posted on 08/15/2008 12:39:42 AM PDT by wardaddy ("Cause my grey hair just can't cover up my redneck.")
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To: wardaddy

OK... I’m pretty tired, but I’ll do my best to answer.

My post assumes that abortion never should have been
legalized. However, the Supreme Court made killing
the unborn legal and that in my opinion makes them
untrusted to make moral (religious) decisions.

Parents have allowed our government to be the moral
arbiters for our children. That’s just wrong. Don’t
you think we could turn this lost ship if families
actually taught Godly principles from the home?

I agree that parsing morality and the law is difficult.
But the Supreme Court crossed into religion when they
decided a fetus isn’t a life. That’s not their job.

Read the entire thread. Perhaps you’ll understand
what I’m trying to say a little better.

156 posted on 08/15/2008 1:01:35 AM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: wardaddy; Jo Nuvark; Das Outsider

How did you get that Jo doesn’t want to end abortion???

I think you misunderstood the point. I don’t believe it was the writer’s intention to leave abortion legal and kill babies, and I don’t think anyone else got that out of this post.

This is the first time I have read Jo Nuvark’s work, and I had to use my brain a minute, but Jo is dead on. The Supreme Court should have never been in the abortion business in the first place. America is about personal responsibility and that stretches to your own kids, too.

If we train our children we will change the world. If we let the government and the supreme court decide the education, direction and fate of our citizens, then we will fail. Unlike other nations, we were supposed to operate at the hands of a God-fearing citizenry.

That’s been hi-jacked. Maybe for good, but I think you are in the same side of the fight as the rest of the “fan club” you were talking about.

Looks like you agree in principle with Jo.

Sometimes we just have to switch the light on to see the path.

202 posted on 08/15/2008 10:38:08 AM PDT by Gordon Greene ( - Me... I'm ignorant but I do know this; God is our only hope!)
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