Skip to comments.Silence on Georgia
Posted on 08/16/2008 7:08:16 AM PDT by elhombrelibre
DID YOU see the huge crowd outside the Russian embassy protesting the war in Georgia?
Neither did I. Now that we have a genuine war of aggression, the silence on the Left is deafening.
"You might think, at a moment such as this, that the moral calculus would be pretty well understood," the Washington Post said in an editorial Thursday. "Russian troops are occupying large swaths of Georgia, a tiny neighboring country, and sacking its military bases. Russian jets have roamed the Georgian skies, bombing civilian and military targets alike. Russian ships are said to be controlling Georgia's port of Poti, while militia under Russia's control reportedly massacre Georgian civilians. Yet in Washington, the foreign policy sophisticates cluck and murmur that, after all, the Georgians should have known better than to chart an independent course."
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Awesome post, thank you for posting.
They only protest when people are being freed from bloodthirsty dictators not when their being conquered by them. Commie killing fields are justifiable if they lead to their utopia.
Pray for W and Our Troops
Now that I think about it, it doesn’t have to be the left outside the Russian embassy protesting. Why is there no one?
where is Rodney King when we need him...”Why can’t we all just get along?”
After reprinting the Kremlin talking points for weeks, the western journalists are now shocked by what they see. Maroons!
In any case, Russia has no business in Georgia and whatever it takes to get them out of there is warranted.
The only thing I’ve heard from liberals is that this is Bush’s fault. He invaded Iraq, see, and Putin’s just doing “monkey see, monkey do.” All Bush’s fault.
I asked this same question in a post yesterday.
Remember all the protests across the globe when we went into Iraq?
And where, or where, did all those ‘human shields’ go, the ones that went to Iraq and chained themselves in front of buildings?
Perhaps they don’t want to hold a sit-in in front of a Russian tank.
Maybe the D.C. chapter can approach some of the Code Pinkos there and recruit them as “human shields” for this assignment.
How can I contact Sean Penn and the many other activists who oppose aggression of any sort? Michael Moore, Medea Benjiman (sp), Cindy Sheehan, you ready to march for peace?
To be honest, I don’t feel like I know enough about the situation to pick a side. First I hear Russian has attacked a small neighboring country. I think “Okay, Russia bad.” Then I hear that Georgia was bombing a province (South Ossetia?) that was trying to return to Russia. I think “Wait. Georgia bad.” Then I hear that South Ossetia was provoking Georgia. I think “South Ossetia bad.” Then I wonder if the South Ossetians really want to be part of Russia again or if a well-funded minority (funded by Russia, of course) is trying to force this issue. If so, I’m back to “Russia bad.” And I know already I don’t like Putin... but I just feel like I don’t know the whole story. I’m not even sure that which I just listed above is right.
Sean Penn should bring his paper cup and get into a small boat and go into the Black Sea...remember his brilliant help in Katrina?
so much for the media moguls, the celebs, code Pink and the others who want Nations to “just leave these countries alone and not invade>?” F...g hypocrites.
I would love to take Fonda and Sarandon over there now and while we are at it, maybe Obama with his vast oratory could go to Moscow and give a speech at a concert hall on ‘peace and diplomcacy’.
That would be a sight to see. Heck, if I lived near the Russian Embassy (and maybe even the UN) I would show up!
It seems they’ve all gone fishin’, girlangler.
I agree, it’s been a muddle, but that’s exactly how the liberal press and Russian apologists want you to see it. Georgia is a democracy, Russia is not. That’s pretty much what I need to know (it helps me decide whose more likely to be lying).
sounds good...but what is really needed is NATO to roll in with massive troops and push back the russians.
Sssshhhhh, you’ll upset the Buchananites talking like that. Then they might start crying.
“The Left” should still be protesting the Russian invasion and brutal occupation. After all Russia is no better than the US, for that matter even more cowardly considering how tiny Georgia is. It is there where their logic falls apart. Iraq at least had a large Military to speak of with a population of 25 million (not to mention Iraq’s defiance of the UN’s 17 resolutions). Georgia is so tiny, you and I can walk across it in about three days. Their inaction and lack of coherent criticism speaks volumes as to where their true loyalties lie. And yes I am saying the American Left is unpatriotic and at the very least a useful tool at the whim our enemies.
“A democracy” is not a good buzz word for me, though. I keep thinking of how many dictators leftists support on the grounds that he was originally “democratically elected” (they even said this about Saddam sometimes, and Yassar Arafat, and Allende, and Chavez...)
I think the basic calculation here is: The Left has observed that (R)s and conservatives don’t seem to like this action on Russia’s part. Therefore, the Left thinks it’s fine. I really don’t think it’s any more sophisticated than that.
I notice the Left only criticizes America and Israel.
Except of course that the Russians aren’t Commies any longer.
A more accurate statement, which also largely explains why Commies were supported by Americans liberals for so long, goes something like this.
“We oppose any use of military force by the US or in its interest. We are either indifferent to or in favor of military (or other) force when used against the US or its interests.”
Most of them were never really committed commies. They were just opposed to Western Civilization/United States. Communism was the big opponent for decades, so they were in favor of it (for others).
Now that Communism has gone bye/bye, they have transferred their support to multi-culti, global warmism, etc. Anything as long as it’s anti-American. Most of them can’t really bring themselves to support Islamism, but they are active in opposition to any attempt to fight it.
“I notice the Left only criticizes America and Israel.”
Yes, and that is why the American Left is unpatriotic and a useful tool in the hands of or enemies.
Then you should probably go out and read about Georgia.
The war against Muslim terrorism is worldwide and if not resolved favorably will destroy the West. While I do not wish the Russians to move against the former portions of the USSR to re-include them in greater Russia, we could leave that battle until we rid ourselves of Muslim extremism inflicting all the world.
I don’t think that the left has quite realized that Russia is no longer leftist, but old-style tyrannical. But then again, the left has long tended to support tyrants as well, unless they are opposed by local leftists.
How true. And the Soviets had their apologists then too, as they do today.
Thank you for your help.
Exactly so. “Fellow travelers,” secret communists, and “useful idiots” are still with us.
Very true. The roots of the Georgia crisis lay in Kosovo.
Don’t forget the Charles Lindbergh wannabe types too.
Plus tens of thousands of Russian emigrees to the USA over the last 20 years, with seriously doubtful devotion to freedom.
Most Russians love a “strong Czar,” it’s in their national makeup.
Even many of those who fled Soviet Communism (or said that they did) support these thuggish Russian actions.
Yes, and who was it that looked into Putin’s eyes and saw a decent honorable almost angelic persona. Bush has been a miserable judge of character as well as a judge of associates in the White House, i.e., Gonzales, Myers, McClellan.
You’re not kidding.
Thanks for the ping, Girl.
I think a few bus loads of the Hollywood elite antiwar nutjobs should be added to those you named and given free transportation to Georgia to assist in making sure the Russians live up to their cease fire and exit from Georgia.
Surely those Russians that are looting and killing civilians would listen to them, wouldn’t they?
There was a decent protest in Montreal.
Take that argument one step further. Is Tibet now an integral part of China? Is Taiwan independent of China because it has not been an integral part of the mainland for many years?
In truth, both Ossetia and Abkhazia were intentionally put into Georgia by Stalin to divide and control them. The Ossetians have a claim for reunification, just as Germany did.
Abkhazia is far more complicated, as it was both a part of Georgia and an autonomous republic under Stalin. One of Stalin’s secret police chiefs, Beria, encouraged Georgians to move there. Later, the Armenians and their church encouraged Armenia emigration there.
So the largest minority is not Georgian, but Armenian.
The devil is in the details of autonomy, however. Since 1991, both areas have split off from Georgia. But all this does is make “de jure” what had been “de facto” for many years. The Georgians didn’t rule them before, and they don’t want the Georgians to rule them now.
I will also add that there are enclaves like this all over the region, with lots of the same and similar problems. Chunks of other countries that are occupied by large number of people from adjacent countries.
But unlike the situation in California, where there are just “a lot of Mexicans”, the divisions are far deeper. Had California been an independent place not under US federal law for many decades, or even worse, under Mexican law, even if not policed by the government of Mexico, we would find ourselves in a similar situation.
That is, if the US government hadn’t ruled California since WWII, the vast majority of the people who lived there were Mexicans, and they used Mexican law and spoke Spanish, what right would the US government to now say they want to rule California?
As for the Mexican populated counties along the US-Mexico border, it would be like lifting a burder to US taxpayers if they somehow demanded and were awarded their independence or integration with Mexico. I would willingly give money to their cause provided, of course, we put a long moat filled with crocs along their north border.
Anyone surprised that the “peace” crowd doesn’t care about Russian aggression is a fool. The “peace” crowd is about anti-Amercanism, anti-capitalism, and pro-communism, not peace. Why would they protest the resurgence of their idols/masters, the KGB and authoritarian Russia?
Your welcome, I know it wasn’t much help, but anything I tell you would be only what I’ve heard. You just need to go out and read as much as you can and make up your own mind.