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John McCain Talks to CNN's John King About His Time As a Prisoner of War - Video 8/15/08
Blogs for John McCain ^ | August 16, 2008 | brianinmo

Posted on 08/16/2008 12:54:57 PM PDT by blogsforthompson.com

Here is video of an interview done by CNN's John King with Sen. John McCain, in which McCain describes his treatement as a Prisoner-of-War in Vietnam. He talks describes the prisons he was kept in, and is asked about what it was like to come to the breaking point physically. But as you watch and listen, you can see something of the kind of person McCain is - stoical, determined and not a quitter. . .

(Excerpt) Read more at blogsforjohnmccain.com ...


TOPICS: Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: 2008; cnn; mccain; pow; vietnamvets

1 posted on 08/16/2008 12:54:58 PM PDT by blogsforthompson.com
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To: blogsforthompson.com
Again? Hasn't everyone heard the story enough by now? Does McCain have anything else to talk about?
2 posted on 08/16/2008 1:27:33 PM PDT by isrul (Harriet Quimby~1912~Hannah Reitsch ... A Coincidence?)
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To: isrul

Again? Hasn’t everyone heard the story enough by now? Does McCain have anything else to talk about?

So I take it you have a problem with McCain talking about a heroic time in his life. A time that can break a man (or woman)so that they never truly recover from. A time in life that can create scars for the rest of their life. Not every one has heard this and is SHOULD be repeated over and over and over and over and over again!!!
Hope you where as vocal with John Kerry when all he could do was say “I served in Viet Nam”.


3 posted on 08/16/2008 2:01:07 PM PDT by blueyon (Every one should get their 15 mins under the bus)
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To: blueyon

How do you know he wasn’t broken? How do you know he has recovered? I know it’s fashionable nowadays to call anyone who put on a uniform a hero. That disparages the true heroes. Being a POW is a bad thing to happen to someone. But it doesn’t make them a hero. And the BS about him refusing to be released is simply that. The captured does not determine the time of his release. The captor does.


4 posted on 08/16/2008 2:18:24 PM PDT by isrul (Harriet Quimby~1912~Hannah Reitsch ... A Coincidence?)
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To: isrul
Does McCain have anything else to talk about?

Are you suggesting he was asked questions about, say, the price of gas and turned it into being a POW?

5 posted on 08/16/2008 3:07:01 PM PDT by GLDNGUN
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To: GLDNGUN
NO.
6 posted on 08/16/2008 3:11:44 PM PDT by isrul (Harriet Quimby~1912~Hannah Reitsch ... A Coincidence?)
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To: isrul
NO.

Oh ok. So when he's asked a question about his time as a POW, what's he supposed to do? Say "None of your business"?

7 posted on 08/16/2008 3:17:15 PM PDT by GLDNGUN
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To: GLDNGUN
Nah. Because it's all he has. Without wrapping himself in the war hero flag, he's nothing but Obama lite.
8 posted on 08/16/2008 3:23:41 PM PDT by isrul (Harriet Quimby~1912~Hannah Reitsch ... A Coincidence?)
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To: isrul
Without wrapping himself in the war hero flag, he's nothing but Obama lite.

So then you believe there would be no difference between McCain and Obama as CIC?

You believe they would appoint the very same type of judges to the USSC?

9 posted on 08/16/2008 3:30:45 PM PDT by GLDNGUN
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To: isrul

You are completely off base. How dare you disparage POWS who gave years of their life in service to America. They are HEROES for standing up for this country in the face of tremendous brutality and abuse. John McCain is very hesitant to speak of this time. He does need to talk about it more, because it is an incredible example of courage and strength.


10 posted on 08/16/2008 3:35:49 PM PDT by blogsforthompson.com
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To: isrul

“Nah” as you say, McCain was elected to congress in 1982, Obama was elected to the Illinois Legislature in 1996. Following your thinking, who has more to talk about?
I do love the political game of ping pong back and forth with you and glad to see it is being kept civil.


11 posted on 08/16/2008 3:38:57 PM PDT by blueyon (Every one should get their 15 mins under the bus)
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To: GLDNGUN
I don't believe either is fit for the office, period. And I think McCain would appoint judges acceptable to his friends across the aisle to the court. To believe otherwise is foolhardy.
12 posted on 08/16/2008 3:41:48 PM PDT by isrul (Harriet Quimby~1912~Hannah Reitsch ... A Coincidence?)
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To: blueyon
so let's her him talk about it. Is he embarrassed?
13 posted on 08/16/2008 3:52:11 PM PDT by isrul (Harriet Quimby~1912~Hannah Reitsch ... A Coincidence?)
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To: isrul
so let's her him talk about it. Is he embarrassed?

Wait, didn't you start this by asking "is that all he can talk about?" Looks like an OBAMA-sized FLIP-FLOP. Maybe you're just Obama-lite

14 posted on 08/16/2008 3:56:57 PM PDT by GLDNGUN
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To: isrul
Being a POW is a bad thing to happen to someone. But it doesn’t make them a hero

McCain did refuse to be released early because he felt it unfair to those who had been captured before him. Also, he felt it would be a brownie point for the commies who would taut the release as favored treatment to the Admiral's son.

He also refused to see the anti-war groups who came even though it would have meant being released from solitary. He was beaten for his non-cooperation many times. He may not have jumped on a land mine to save his buddies but he did choose self-denial over expedience on more than one occasion which is heroic behavior.

I'm surprised McCain looks as good as he does having been thru such physical torments.

15 posted on 08/16/2008 3:57:33 PM PDT by what's up
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To: isrul
The captured does not determine the time of his release. The captor does.

He explained in the interview this evening with Rick Warren that because his father was a high ranking Military Officer, he was given special preference and told he could leave early. The prisoners of war had a code: first in; first released. There was someone there who had been a POW longer than he, so he said "No" after much prayer. He said he was glad he didn't know how many more years the war would last when he said "no."
16 posted on 08/16/2008 6:42:59 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (The World is a Tragedy for Those Who Feel (Democrats) but a Comedy to Those Who Think (Republicans).)
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To: what's up
The thing is how does a prisoner dictate these things to his captors?
17 posted on 08/17/2008 5:14:32 AM PDT by isrul (Harriet Quimby~1912~Hannah Reitsch ... A Coincidence?)
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To: blogsforthompson.com
I didn't disparage POW’s. McCain isn't a POW. He's a slimy pol trying to milk the experience to further his own ambition.
18 posted on 08/17/2008 5:18:34 AM PDT by isrul (Harriet Quimby~1912~Hannah Reitsch ... A Coincidence?)
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To: GLDNGUN
That's not a flip flop. If that's all he has to talk about; let him.
19 posted on 08/17/2008 5:21:18 AM PDT by isrul (Harriet Quimby~1912~Hannah Reitsch ... A Coincidence?)
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To: isrul
That's not a flip flop. If that's all he has to talk about; let him.

Of course it's a flip flop. And to suggest that it is "all he has to talk about" is beyond ridiculous. I don't know if you watched him Saddleback last night, but EVERY answer of his was a HOME RUN from a conservative perspective.

20 posted on 08/17/2008 9:23:54 AM PDT by GLDNGUN
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To: isrul

You mean you don’t know that prisoners of war are often beaten for non-cooperation?

Do you think all the prisoners who were beaten for the same things were lying too?


21 posted on 08/17/2008 9:52:21 AM PDT by what's up
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To: what's up
Your post makes no sense. I said prisoners do not dictate to their captors what is to be done. If they wanted McCain released, he would be released. He could not prevent it. His protestations would be meaningless.
22 posted on 08/17/2008 4:14:08 PM PDT by isrul (Harriet Quimby~1912~Hannah Reitsch ... A Coincidence?)
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To: isrul
More than half the people in the US have no clue that McCain's adopted daughter was handed to them by none other than Mother Teresa herself.
23 posted on 08/17/2008 4:16:51 PM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E. That spells free. freerepublic.com baby)
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To: isrul
Who to believe? You or Bud Day who was in a cell with him.

hmmmmm

24 posted on 08/17/2008 4:18:44 PM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E. That spells free. freerepublic.com baby)
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To: GLDNGUN
I don't care about his “faith”. He'll say what the rubes want to hear. If that makes you feel all warm and fuzzy. Good for you. I know what he wants to do because he has made no secret of it. And his history of backstabbing is public knowledge. And if you think what I said was a flip flop. Frankly, you're flipped out. To say that's all he has to talk about and also say let him are two separate and unrelated things.
25 posted on 08/17/2008 4:19:54 PM PDT by isrul (Harriet Quimby~1912~Hannah Reitsch ... A Coincidence?)
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To: mware
And I should care about this, why? Lots of folks have daughters. It's no indication of fitness to hold public office.
26 posted on 08/17/2008 4:27:44 PM PDT by isrul (Harriet Quimby~1912~Hannah Reitsch ... A Coincidence?)
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To: mware
Believe what you like. I'm sure he'll tell the story for you again and again and again.
27 posted on 08/17/2008 4:28:44 PM PDT by isrul (Harriet Quimby~1912~Hannah Reitsch ... A Coincidence?)
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To: blueyon
Not every one has heard this and is SHOULD be repeated over and over and over and over and over again!!!

Sure, if it was true. The problem is, is it true.
I used to know John McCain, and heard his many stories time and time again. The problem with them was that they changed slightly every time he told them. I knew from the first time Barry Goldwater introduced him to my wife and me that McCain was looking farther than a seat in the House of Representatives. I was afraid that changes in his his stories would come back to haunt him.
28 posted on 08/17/2008 4:32:05 PM PDT by John D
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To: isrul
Believe what you like. I'm sure he'll tell the story for you again and again and again.

I am sure he will. And I am also sure he will be the hero every time. The problem is that the stories change every time.
Do not get me wrong, I am no osmama obama supporter, but I am also no McCrazy supporter. If he wins he will do to the Republicans what Carter did to the democrats.
29 posted on 08/17/2008 4:38:59 PM PDT by John D
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To: isrul

You are full of crap. I am no fan of McCain. But he was offered the opportunity for early release because his father was an admiral. McCain instead said that the protocol of release in order of capture should be followed. And he paid for it dearly.


30 posted on 08/17/2008 4:56:22 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: isrul

Kiss your arse good-bye, Jack.


31 posted on 08/17/2008 5:13:01 PM PDT by Lead Moderator
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To: John D
I've heard the stories enough that I could done the interview last night for him. And, yes the stories have changed. Very subtlely but they have changed. I bothered me a bit early on but then I watched him tell them in groups of people. He was (I don't think intentionally) refining them to match the message that the audiences were gleaning from them. Most of it was a matter of emphasizing some parts and deemphasizing others.

At first they were raw war stories to do with as one would. Then they became little morality plays with McCain grappling in a world beyond his control. Then they became general life lessons for public consumption. The substance didn't change but the point of the stories did.

McCain is a bit enigmatic, beyond ascription to personal ambition. He will shake up the Party but I view it as a good thing. Republicans are in retreat. The map of blue and purple is growing. McCain will hold the line and shake things up while the young Turks determine the future direction of the Party.

32 posted on 08/17/2008 5:26:35 PM PDT by MARTIAL MONK (I'm waiting for the POP! It's gonna be a BIG one.)
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To: GLDNGUN
You believe they would appoint the very same type of judges to the USSC?

Pretty close.
33 posted on 08/17/2008 5:28:00 PM PDT by John D
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To: MARTIAL MONK

I bet we were at many of the same Trunk and Tusk events.


34 posted on 08/17/2008 5:34:16 PM PDT by John D
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To: John D
I don't. Even if he wanted to, he couldn't. He has seen the power of the Conservative swarm. Miers was knocked completely out of the game and we don't even know what she was. McCain's not going to risk that.

To appoint a liberal he would have to completely reverse field. There are some things that he may do that with, but not the Supreme Court. He has been absolutely rigid on pro-life issues. It used to exasperate us that he would deal with it to the point of obsession. We joked that he was catering to the Mormons but they were not even that obsessive. The guy believes it. He's with us on this one.

35 posted on 08/17/2008 5:43:32 PM PDT by MARTIAL MONK (I'm waiting for the POP! It's gonna be a BIG one.)
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To: John D

Very likely.


36 posted on 08/17/2008 5:44:15 PM PDT by MARTIAL MONK (I'm waiting for the POP! It's gonna be a BIG one.)
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To: Lead Moderator

Thank you.


37 posted on 08/17/2008 5:47:44 PM PDT by MARTIAL MONK (I'm waiting for the POP! It's gonna be a BIG one.)
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To: MARTIAL MONK

My pleasure.


38 posted on 08/17/2008 5:48:35 PM PDT by Lead Moderator
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To: Lead Moderator

Thanks


39 posted on 08/17/2008 5:49:18 PM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E. That spells free. freerepublic.com baby)
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To: dirtboy
One little tidbit of information needs to be added. Some of the POWs did accept early release. I don't blame them in the least, I may have done the same.

It does highlight McCain's refusal.

40 posted on 08/17/2008 5:52:44 PM PDT by MARTIAL MONK (I'm waiting for the POP! It's gonna be a BIG one.)
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To: John D
Pretty close.

You obviously didn't watch Saddleback. Try again.
41 posted on 08/17/2008 5:57:08 PM PDT by GLDNGUN
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To: MARTIAL MONK
Martial you are correct that some did except early release. One that stands in my memory was a sailor who fell off his ship and was captured.

He took early release but with the consent of the highest ranking POW at this camp.

He also memorized the names of every man in the camp or who was known to have been in the camp. When released he gave that info to his authorities.

42 posted on 08/17/2008 5:59:03 PM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E. That spells free. freerepublic.com baby)
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To: isrul
To say that's all he has to talk about and also say let him are two separate and unrelated things.

Do you work for the Obama campaign? Because you are spinning so fast, it's a wonder you can even type on your computer. You attacked him saying "so let's her him talk about it. Is he embarrassed?" That was right after you attacked him for talking about it "too much".

Nailed. Game over.

I'm sure you are quite comfy in your flip-flops.
43 posted on 08/17/2008 6:03:06 PM PDT by GLDNGUN
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To: isrul
They wanted him to agree to be released.

That way they could say, "See...in capitalist countries the sons of Admirals, etc. choose preferential treatment."

In not agreeing to it, he foiled their plan. Don't you get it?

44 posted on 08/17/2008 7:29:15 PM PDT by what's up
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To: GLDNGUN

You obviously do not know John McCain. Try again.


45 posted on 08/18/2008 3:46:58 AM PDT by John D
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