Skip to comments.Obama “pay grade” comment purposely ignores SCIENTIFIC FACT that LIFE BEGINS AT CONCEPTION
Posted on 08/18/2008 4:56:08 AM PDT by cpforlife.org
In 1981, a group of internationally known scientists appeared before a Senate judiciary subcommittee to answer the question, When does human life begin? Their answers are below and make Pro-Aborts very uncomfortable. But nowhere near as uncomfortable as the last moments of life will be for the 3,500 babies who will be aborted tomorrow.
At the Saddleback Civil Forum on the Presidency, Rev. Rick Warren asked both candidates the question: At what point does a baby gets human rights. McCains answer was direct At the moment of conception.
Obamas answer was the non-answer heard round the political world. His voting record is solidly Pro-Abortion and as an Illinois senator he defended Live Birth Abortions for three years. So why didnt Obama answer at birth or at birth as long as the mother does not want the baby to die?
answering that question with specificity is, you know, above my pay grade..
No Sen. Obama. Answering that question with specificity would abort your campaign.
We must hammer home the SCIENTIFIC FACT that LIFE BEGINS AT CONCEPTION. We have to take control of the language used in the abortion debate. We must stop Pro-Aborts from confusing the issue by claiming the question about the beginning of life is a theological matter. It is biological science.
And abortion itself is a civil rights issue.
It is time that we demand real change, and real change means the end of Roe vs. Wade.
The “pay grade” comment shows just how much Uhbama is out of his league when it comes to the presidency. He tried to be clever with a comment that began to be heavily used as a political tool I think back in the 90’s for a subject where it does not fit. This is Uhbama. A guy who is simply trying to get over by phrases like the “pay grade” comment, by putting meaningless terms like “fast-track” into his campaign advertising and the like. He is an invention of the Phlegmocrat Party and hardly worthy to be head of the PTA, much less the POTUS.
Induced Abortion is the Number One Cause of Death In The United States. According to the US Center for Disease Control the leading causes of death in the US in 2002 were: Abortion 1,290,000 Heart disease 710,760 Cancer 553,091 Stroke 167,661 Chronic lower respiratory tract disease 122,009 Accidents 97,900. AIDS was not even in the top 10 causes with 17,544 reported deaths.
...and Obama’s answer to the christian question was weasely enought to be non-threatening to any moslem.
It is truly amazing how Obama could say so little with so many words, while McCain said so much with just a few.
Bookmarked. FRegards ....
“....above his paygrade....”
Give me a break - HE NEVER EVEN HAD THE NUTS TO ANSWER THE GIVEN QUESTION. A simple answer, either a) at conception or b) at birth - which one is it?
While abortion is hideous enough, even pro-choice people should understand what judicial activism is doing to our law. Pro-choice judges attack our bill of rights— seeking to elevate treaties above our basic rights. Kelo is a good example of what pro-choice justices get us.
I hope he's only building up drama by keeping everyone in suspense.
I think what most people are missing is that B-O’s answer ALSO allows him to suggest that only God knows the answer without actually having to mention God. He is attempting to have it both ways...believers infer that he is deferring to God, while non-believers infer that he is deferring to scientists.
Mr Obama, since our LAWS cannot be as undefined as your non-answer, and MUST SPECIFY when life begins in order to say
legal here, illegal there,
and you’re running for the CHIEF LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER of the United States,
I believe that it is necessary for you to clearly define your belief in what those laws should be.
So, again, when in your belife should it be defined that life begins and is worthy of the protection of law?
Shouldn’t a bi-racial candidate at least be familiar with Margaret
Sanger and Planned Parenthood’s racist policies?
94% of the baby death camps are placed in minority neighborhoods!
6% of the population (black women) receive 36% of abortions.
If he had any
core values, he wouldn’t have any problems answering questions like these.
Here’s how it works:
Bounce question off your core beliefs and answer accordingly.
Here’s how a leftist works:
Bounce question off your core beliefes, determine if the public in general will consider that answer abhorrent, and avoid it if so.
Notice I’m not saying that he has no core beliefs, I’m saying his core beliefs would be considered abhorrent to the public.
“the life of any individual organism reproducing by sexual reproduction begins at conception.”
The new individual’s life begins at conception. He/she is not a mass of cells living as a parasite off the mother, as radical feminazis say.
No we mustn't. Sperm are alive and eggs are alive. Life doesn't spring out of unLife.
And Life is also a legal term and the abortion issue is also a legal debate. It doesn't do any good to purposively confuse the terms and confuse the issue, especially when you don't have to.
This reminds me of the pro-drug war people criticizing the "victimless crime" argument, saying people who abuse drugs are too "victims". They confuse the terms, "victimless" is first a legal term.
In our legal system, there are times that taking a life is legal. So, saying every life requires absolute legal protection is nonsense and a losing argument. It also turns off people, who fear that religion is going to be enacted into law.
You've got to know your audience, you've got to make arguments that will appeal to them.
Either you're being disingenuous, or your grasp of science is incredibly weak. Science cannot determine when "life" begins, because the term itself is open to interpretation. Science can determine when brain waves begin, when a heartbeat is likely to continue independenet of the mother, when cells divide, etc. However, it's an arbitrary decision when to label it "life". As you point out yourself, it's about the terminology ("control the language"), not about science.
Someone pointed out yeaterday that there are 57 states in the Islamic council ... perhaps Obama doesn’t know how many US states there are BUT he is quite familiar with how many states there are in the ISlamic council!