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Stopping Abortions, Protecting Human Life Not Above a President's Pay Grade
LifeNews.com ^ | August 19, 2008 | Deal Hudson

Posted on 08/19/2008 2:08:53 PM PDT by cpforlife.org

LifeNews.com Note: Deal W. Hudson is the director of the Morley Institute for Church & Culture and InsideCatholic.com, and is the former publisher and editor of CRISIS Magazine, a Catholic monthly. He is the author of six books and his articles and comments have been published in many newspapers and magazines

It's a truism that anyone running for President shouldn't answer a question by saying "that's above my pay grade."

After all, if you want to occupy the White House there is no higher pay grade – you are the boss, and the buck stops with you.

But Barack Obama used precisely that expression when asked by Rick Warren when life begins.

Obama said, "Whether you're looking at it from a theological perspective or a scientific perspective, answering that question with specificity . . . is above my pay grade."

How can a man who has voted three times on the Born Again Infant Protection Act be unable to answer that question with "specificity." Does he mean that he voted against BAIPA without having an answer to that question?

You would think someone casting a vote on BAIPA would know where he stands on when a human life begins. Otherwise, what is he basing his vote upon? What factor is more important?

Obama made the telling mistake of pitting the truth of science against the truth of theology. That remark is almost more disturbing than his unwillingness to reveal his opinion on a matter of great importance to most Americans.

He evidently thinks there are two truths in contradiction to each other. And his implication is clear: Theology teaches life begins at conception, but science sees it differently.

Wait a minute; isn't this supposed to be the faith-friendly Democratic candidate for president? Why would Obama throw theology under the science bus?

It's not a matter of being a scientist or a theologian; the determining factor is whether or not you believe in a "right to choose."

Those, like Obama, who hold that ideology, have come to the conclusion that life does not begin at conception, regardless of what theology and science teach.

Doug Kmiec is right to point out that upholding a woman's right to choose is what has determined Obama's outlook on abortion. This is why the phrase "abortion should be safe, legal, and rare" was taken out of the platform of the Democratic Party.

As Kmiec, an Obama supporter puts it, "To impose either safe, or legal, or rare is, to him, to have the government displace the woman's freedom."

Kmiec also endorses Obama's view that truth is a matter of perspective, i.e., depending on one's point of view. "As [Obama} sees it, Roe is not an endorsement of abortion, so much as an affirmation that abortion is a moral question for which only the potential mother can give answer."

Passing over the issue of whether the father should have any say in the matter, it's strange indeed that a choice about life and death should be awarded, free from interference, to a single person.

Where is the unborn child's advocate? In the world of Barack Obama, as described by Prof. Kmiec, the child has no advocate; the mother's freedom is inviolate.

For Kmiec, all this makes "Barack Obama a different type of candidate." Maybe I am missing something, but I think there's nothing at all different about Obama – for him, a woman's right to choose trumps every other constraint.

Sounds like the standard pro-abortion argument to me.

When Rick Warren asked John McCain the same question he didn't hesitate. He answered that life begins "at the moment of conception." McCain's twenty-five year pro-life voting record has made him pretty clear on that point.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; election; murder; obama

1 posted on 08/19/2008 2:08:53 PM PDT by cpforlife.org
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To: cpforlife.org

In the 35 years since the Roe v. Wade Decision a Pro Life President has occupied the White House 23 Years.


2 posted on 08/19/2008 2:12:58 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: cpforlife.org

Well, its above your pay grade if you’re..
1)mentally challenged
2)dead
3)an imbecile
4)an amoeba
5)an obama


3 posted on 08/19/2008 2:13:35 PM PDT by pipecorp ( Al Lahsucks (boat steersman ) hell)
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To: Coleus; nickcarraway; narses; Mr. Silverback; Canticle_of_Deborah; TenthAmendmentChampion; ...
Can you imagine any candidate in the past answering any question with “that’s above my pay grade” and getting away with it? If any Republican would say something so utterly stupid the Democrat Media would demand his head. And the voters would most likely be correct in rejecting said candidate.

What about on national security? That would correctly be a deal breaker.

This Obama non-answer goes to the fundamental issue, not just of our time but throughout human civilization. If you can’t answer that one correctly your test is over. You are dismissed.

Has Constitutional Lawyer Obama forgotten the Declaration—The Right to Life is Unalienable. What about the Preamble to the Constitution, written for “Our Posterity”

He’s dealt with this issue for more than 7 years, as an elected legislator and the best answer is that. Your test is over. You are dismissed.

4 posted on 08/19/2008 2:23:52 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available FREE at CpForLife.org)
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To: pipecorp

So then we should believe that Obama has no opinion about when life begins, or any theological feelings, given that he is a self-professed Christian???????

And has he not kept up with the advances in science in recent years? We have found tha premature infants are now being saved and are viable prior to the 6 or 7 month gestation period which some thought was the minimum. And which also goes to show that the fetus is definitely alive at that point. Then you could wonder how one could support late term abortions in that case.

Well, for these so-called “pro choice” politicians, that “choice” trumps every other consideration.


5 posted on 08/19/2008 2:27:56 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: trumandogz
And 2 of the 5 pro-Roe justices were appointed by Republicans. Souter (By Bush 41) Kennedy (By Reagan).

Sadly we have no real alternatives.

6 posted on 08/19/2008 2:28:47 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available FREE at CpForLife.org)
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To: cpforlife.org
. . . is above my pay grade."

I can't believe he used that term. I've been saying he was a slacker, but, gee, thanks, Obama, for making me so right.

Two thoughts, you pencil-neck sleaze: First, if you don't know how to respect life, you're not fit to lead it; and Two, that "punished with a baby" remark was your complete undoing. You did the verbal equivalent of what Martin Sheen did in "The Dead Zone."

The American people will never elect you.

7 posted on 08/19/2008 2:29:45 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: cpforlife.org

“that’s above my pay grade.” = “The buck stops....not here, but I’m sure it stops somewhere, if it needs to stop, then of course we need to take that dollar back to invest it in the future...”


8 posted on 08/19/2008 2:31:43 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: cpforlife.org
He evidently thinks there are two truths in contradiction to each other.And his implication is clear: Theology teaches life begins at conception, but science sees it differently.

I beg to differ, not on Obama's outlook or thoughts, but on the fact that science feels life begins sometime after conception. I am NOT a Christian, I have many friends who are not Christians, many are men and women of science, but they do not think aborting(killing)unborn babies is ok.

They all agree, it is murder, pure and simple. There are millions like me and my friends in the USA that embrace morality but reject religion per se.

Some of us, me included, believe in a higher power but not necessarily the way the bible lays it out.

Aborting babies is wrong whether you are a scientist or Christian. Barrack thinks killing babies is ok because he is a communist, a left wing nutcake, not because he embraces science.

One other thing, a true person of science realizes how rare life is in the Universe and embraces it, doesn't call for the death of unborn children, doesn't call for the elimination of people who think differently than they do. That is a real scientist, anything other than that is simply a left wing, socialist, murdering scum bag. Period.

9 posted on 08/19/2008 2:32:04 PM PDT by calex59
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To: cpforlife.org

The idea behind the Office of the President as designed by the founders was that NOTHING was beyond the office holders paygrade. That ultimately the person in that position would be called on often to make life and death decision for thousand and then millions of other human beings.

While I imagine that Obama thought his use of the term was just a throwaway line as he tried to think of a better answer to a serious question, I think the reality is that we, the Nation, saw the real Obama. The entire person that seeks to become our President. What we saw is a man that does not even understand the requirements of the job he seeks.


10 posted on 08/19/2008 2:32:38 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Got Freedom ? Thank a Veteran...... Want to keep Freedom? Don't vote Obama)
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To: the invisib1e hand

May be viewed by history as the turning point in the election!


11 posted on 08/19/2008 2:35:38 PM PDT by Lesforlife
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To: cpforlife.org

And Five of the Seven Justices to Vote For Roe were Appointed by Republicans!


12 posted on 08/19/2008 2:50:13 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: Lesforlife

The GOP over the years has to proved itself to be a Pro Life Party but, rather a party that claims to be Pro Life has done little to Save Innocent Children.


13 posted on 08/19/2008 2:53:53 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: SECURE AMERICA
SECURE AMERICA: “we, the Nation, saw the real Obama”

Not completely. If he would have been honest he would have said. Only after being born. And if he would put his IL votes into words he would have added... unless the mother wanted the baby dead.

Capt. Obvious voice: I don't think he was expecting that question asked—that way. He can not think on his feet like any competent lawyer, and many non lawyers can. He was completely caught off guard which I suspect is very common for him. And which would be dangerous for the Nation.

Never has the term pseudo-intellectual been more appropriate than when applied to Obama. He's more of a lightweight than my tweety bird.

14 posted on 08/19/2008 2:54:46 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available FREE at CpForLife.org)
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Bump!


15 posted on 08/19/2008 2:56:48 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trumandogz
LOL—And you and I can keep posting facts about Republicans who fail. Where are you going with this?
16 posted on 08/19/2008 2:57:59 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available FREE at CpForLife.org)
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To: cpforlife.org
” ... if you want to occupy the White House there is no higher pay grade – you are the boss, and the buck stops with you. “

If a person can't figure out when life begins, then the office of the Presidency is over your head. When life begins is a SIMPLE issue. How in the world will one who will head up the most powerful country on this earth deal with the TOUGH COMLEX ISSES?

The answer is baby Obama won't. He'll cave in to more EVIL. Obama, baby, is an APPEASER to EVIL. He stands for NOTHING and falls for everything because his core value/beliefs are ROTTEN.

17 posted on 08/19/2008 3:02:28 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: cpforlife.org

Apparently, it wasn’t “above his pay grade” when he said he wouldn’t want his daughters “punished with a baby” if they got pregnant. It wasn’t “above his pay grade” to vote to deny legal protection to infants born alive in botched abortions. He is willing to vote to deny rights to unborn children. Was he just confused about his “pay grade” then?


18 posted on 08/19/2008 3:12:13 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: cpforlife.org

As I watched Obama’s response to the question about the right to an individual’s life, it seemed to me that Obama got haughtier and haughtier until he finally resorted to his flippant, sarcastic answer.

So, are we to guess that if his pay grade were higher, he’d have an opinion or take a position?

I would like to know whether or not he thinks his daughters have constitutional rights to life. If so, then their ages could have been a better answer than the stupid one he provided to Warren. And specifically, at what age did he think his daughters first had protective rights to life?

— Jane


19 posted on 08/19/2008 3:19:04 PM PDT by quintr
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To: Dilbert San Diego

“...premature infants are now being saved and are viable prior to the 6 or 7 month gestation period...”

and each and every one of these million dollar babies (not that you could ever put a dollar value on a human life) are more precious than gold to our Lord Jesus Christ.

Perhaps Obama just plain old lacks the depth of intellectual curiosity or depth of character to have an opinion about the right to life — but you’d think that as a professing Christian, he’d have a spiritual preference to life.

He most certainly would if his daughters’ lives were at stake. You don’t have to walk the halls of Intensive Care to know how precious your children’s lives are. And yes, they most certainly have the right to life and the right to the best medical care available here on earth. So I’m not buying his haughty remark about pay grade.

I think he was just upset with the whole notion that Warren was asking him what appeared to be hard questions. And he knew it was going to be aired on Fox News, a channel he consistently avoids.

Just goes to show you that if, by his wildest imagination, he were elected president, he wouldn’t consider himself the president of all the people. Just the ones who subscribe to the MSM’s context. Conservatives are to be avoided at all costs.

— Jane

— Jane


20 posted on 08/19/2008 3:27:07 PM PDT by quintr
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity; quintr; All

OBAMA: One of the things I strongly believe is that we are not going to, as individuals, erase evil from the world. That is God’s task. But we can be soldiers in that process, and we can confront it when we see it.

LIMBAUGH: What did Obama do when he saw this evil? (Infanticide) Did he confront it as one of God’s soldiers, or did he facilitate it? He facilitated it. He facilitated the evil. The answer now from the Obama campaign is clear: Obama facilitated evil in order to protect abortion on demand, which was never threatened in the bill in the first place. That much, apparently, was not “above [his] pay grade.”

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_081808/content/01125112.guest.html


21 posted on 08/19/2008 3:35:25 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available FREE at CpForLife.org)
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To: trumandogz

Can’t disagree with you one iota on that!

Was a NTL delegate in 1992 and alternate in 1996, fighting
to keep the pro-life plank in the platform.

Yet, all 6 Republican appointed justices voted to
let Terri be starved to death.


22 posted on 08/19/2008 3:39:04 PM PDT by Lesforlife
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To: cpforlife.org

In a society with MEN worthy of the term, there would be no abortion performed without there first being a father doing hard time for his manly willingness to sacrifice his life for that of his son or daughter.

Abortion is a commentary on the men who permit it. The buck stops here - that IS our pay grade.


23 posted on 08/19/2008 3:39:17 PM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: cpforlife.org
Interesting how this election may come down to the abortion issue and the Catholic pro-life vote.

Obama has almost achieved the impossible: making his own negatives rather than those of the Iraq war the cutting issue. This was supposed to be the Democrats' year, they could waltz right into the White House.

24 posted on 08/19/2008 3:56:57 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Lesforlife
May be viewed by history as the turning point in the election!

Indeed.

25 posted on 08/19/2008 6:02:07 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: cpforlife.org; antonius

26 posted on 08/19/2008 10:22:02 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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