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Towton, the bloodbath that changed the course of English history. (Well worth reading)
The Sunday Times (UK) ^ | August 24, 2008 | AA Gill

Posted on 08/23/2008 7:45:39 PM PDT by PotatoHeadMick

Get onto the B1217 – the Ferrybridge-to-Tadcaster road – just after the M1 joins the A1M, and you’ve crossed that unmapped line where the north stops being grim and begins to be bracing. Go through Saxton, past the Crooked Billet pub, and on your left you’ll see rising farmland, green corn and copses – an old landscape, untroubled by poets or painters or the hyperbole of tourist boards, but handsome, still and hushed. The road is straight; it knows where it’s going, hurrying along, averting its gaze. Through the tonsured hedge you might just notice a big old holly tree on the side of the road. It seems out of place.

Get out of the car, adjust to the hissing silence and step behind the tree. Hidden from the road you’ll find a gothic stone cross of some age. Nobody knows who put it here or where it’s from. For centuries it lay in the ditch. A date recently inscribed on its base, March 28, 1461, is wrong. It should be the next day: the 29th, Sunday. The movable feast – Palm Sunday.

(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Unclassified; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: ancientautopsies; battleoftowton; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; history; march291461; palmsunday; towton; warsoftheroses
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This is a fascinating article if you're into historical battles, AA Gill normally does restaurant and TV reviews but he's a good writer.
1 posted on 08/23/2008 7:45:40 PM PDT by PotatoHeadMick
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To: PotatoHeadMick
rising farmland, green corn and copses

Whew, I couldn't believe it at first...I thought it read "corpses".

2 posted on 08/23/2008 7:50:15 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Phodopus campbelli: household ruler since July 2007.)
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To: PotatoHeadMick
By all contemporary accounts, allowing for medieval exaggeration, on this one Sunday between 20,000 and 30,000 men died. Just so that you grasp the magnitude, that’s a more grievous massacre of British men than on the first day of the Somme. Without machineguns or shells, young blokes hacked, bludgeoned and trampled, suffocated and drowned. An astonishing 1% of the English population died in this field. The equivalent today would be 600,000.

FYI!

3 posted on 08/23/2008 7:57:05 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: PotatoHeadMick
Thanks for this fascinating post.

L

4 posted on 08/23/2008 7:57:52 PM PDT by Lurker (Islam is an insane death cult. Any other aspects are PR to get them within throat-cutting range.)
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To: PotatoHeadMick

WOW!!!!
GREAT article.

I’m a supporter of Richard III and would have been a Yorkist. Damn Lancstrians!!! Damn Tudors!!!!!


5 posted on 08/23/2008 7:58:52 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: ZULU

“Now is the winter of our discontent...”


6 posted on 08/23/2008 8:07:43 PM PDT by Publius (Another Republican for Obama -- NOT!!)
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To: PotatoHeadMick
After a bit of argy-bargy, happy slapping, black dungeon-work and a couple of on-your-toes to the Continent, we get Henry V – cocky sod and, more important, lucky sod – who wins Agincourt but unluckily is then killed by the shits while his son is still a nipper.

Sometimes I admire British writing; sometimes it cracks me up, and sometimes it just leaves me scratching my 'ead.

7 posted on 08/23/2008 8:11:13 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (when you're bot, you're pwn3d)
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To: the invisib1e hand

Right! What’s all this then!


8 posted on 08/23/2008 8:12:24 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (This election is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if McCain wins, we're still retarded.)
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To: ovrtaxt

I say! What’d you say he was killed by?


9 posted on 08/23/2008 8:14:50 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (when you're bot, you're pwn3d)
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To: PotatoHeadMick

awesome


10 posted on 08/23/2008 8:15:26 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (No prisoners. No mercy. Fight back or STFU!!!)
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To: ZULU
I’m a supporter of Richard III and would have been a Yorkist. Damn Lancstrians!!! Damn Tudors!!!!!

Thanks to Shakespeare's hatchet job of 1593, Richard's reputation as "Dick the Bad" has endured to this day--and has been reinforced in films such as Tower of London (1962).

11 posted on 08/23/2008 8:17:37 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Fiji Hill

Shakespear was a great artist - but a Tudor lacky - and very BAD historian.


12 posted on 08/23/2008 8:20:04 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: PotatoHeadMick

Excellent article—about a piece of history I knew nothing about.

The slaughter that men have visited upon other men throughout the last 5,000 years makes one paue at the sheer magnitude of it, and its effects on society, on bloodlines, and on history.


13 posted on 08/23/2008 8:25:11 PM PDT by exit82 (People get the government they deserve--and they are about to get it --in spades.)
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To: 2banana
By all contemporary accounts, allowing for medieval exaggeration, on this one Sunday between 20,000 and 30,000 men died.

In comparison, the Battle of Iwo Jima cost the lives of about 7,000 Americans and 21,000 Japanese.

14 posted on 08/23/2008 8:28:07 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: PotatoHeadMick

Ping for a fresh start tomorrow... Looks like a fantastic read. Thanks for posting.


15 posted on 08/23/2008 8:32:12 PM PDT by DariusBane (Obamessiah the Assholian do not deny Him. (K-oneTexas creates assholian))
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To: PotatoHeadMick

Thomas Costain wrote a series of books about the Plantagenets that were very popular in the ‘50s and early ‘60s.

http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/c/thomas-b-costain/


16 posted on 08/23/2008 8:39:57 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie
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To: rfp1234
rising farmland, green corn and copses

Whew, I couldn't believe it at first...I thought it read "corpses".

And when the author writes corn, he probably means wheat or perhaps oats. It's a British meaning that always trips me up when I read it.

17 posted on 08/23/2008 8:43:41 PM PDT by stripes1776 ("That if gold rust, what shall iron do?" --Chaucer)
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To: the invisib1e hand

I’m with you on that—have never heard the expression “argy-bargy” and am not sure what the writer means when he says Henry V was “killed by the shits”—unless he means dysentery or some such unfortunate disease. But I AM pretty sure what he means when he talks about Henry VI “hiding the pink sceptre”—and that line is hilarious!


18 posted on 08/23/2008 9:03:51 PM PDT by milagro
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To: PotatoHeadMick

Ping for later


19 posted on 08/23/2008 9:04:33 PM PDT by Big Giant Head (I should change my tagline to "Big Giant penguin on my Head")
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To: milagro

LOL! I missed that one.


20 posted on 08/23/2008 9:05:33 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (when you're bot, you're pwn3d)
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