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Denver archbishop slams Pelosi on Church teachings and abortion
CNA ^ | August 25, 2008

Posted on 08/25/2008 1:51:53 PM PDT by NYer


Rep. Nancy Pelosi / Archbishop Chaput

Denver, Aug 25, 2008 / 03:27 pm (CNA).- In a statement eloquently titled “On the Separation of Sense and State,” the Archbishop of Denver, Charles J. Chaput, O.F.M. Cap., and his Auxiliary Bishop James D. Conley harshly criticized Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, for giving a confusing view of the Catholic Church’s teaching on abortion, during a Sunday interview on NBC’s “Meet the Press.”

“Catholic public leaders inconvenienced by the abortion debate” –says the statement- “tend to take a hard line in talking about the ‘separation of Church and state.’  But their idea of separation often seems to work one way.” 

“In fact, some officials also seem comfortable in the role of theologian.  And that warrants some interest, not as a ‘political’ issue, but as a matter of accuracy and justice.”

Archbishop Chaput’s statement recognizes Pelosi as “a gifted public servant of strong convictions and many professional skills” but adds that “regrettably, knowledge of Catholic history and teaching does not seem to be one of them.”

During the Meet the Press interview on August 24, Pelosi responded to a question about when human life begins by saying that “as an ardent, practicing Catholic, this is an issue that I have studied for a long time.  And what I know is over the centuries, the doctors of the church have not been able to make that definition . . . St. Augustine said at three months.  We don't know. The point is, is that it shouldn't have an impact on the woman's right to choose.”

The Archdiocese of Denver argues that since Speaker Pelosi claims to have studied the issue “for a long time,” “she must know very well one of the premier works on the subject, Jesuit John Connery’s Abortion: The Development of the Roman Catholic Perspective (Loyola, 1977).

The statement recall’s Connery’s conclusion: “The Christian tradition from the earliest days reveals a firm antiabortion attitude . . . The condemnation of abortion did not depend on and was not limited in any way by theories regarding the time of fetal animation.  Even during the many centuries when Church penal and penitential practice was based on the theory of delayed animation, the condemnation of abortion was never affected by it.  Whatever one would want to hold about the time of animation, or when the fetus became a human being in the strict sense of the term, abortion from the time of conception was considered wrong, and the time of animation was never looked on as a moral dividing line between permissible and impermissible abortion.”

The Archdiocese’s statement also quotes “the blunter words of the great Lutheran pastor Dietrich Bonhoeffer.”

Bonhoeffer, a strong critic and later victim of the Nazi regime in his native Germany wrote that “the destruction of the embryo in the mother’s womb is a violation of the right to live which God has bestowed on this nascent life. To raise the question whether we are here concerned already with a human being or not is merely to confuse the issue. The simple fact is that God certainly intended to create a human being and that this nascent human being has been deliberately deprived of his life. And that is nothing but murder.”

Archbishop Chaput’s statement continues, explaining that, “ardent, practicing Catholics will quickly learn from the historical record that from apostolic times, the Christian tradition overwhelmingly held that abortion was grievously evil.  In the absence of modern medical knowledge, some of the Early Fathers held that abortion was homicide; others that it was tantamount to homicide; and various scholars theorized about when and how the unborn child might be animated or ‘ensouled.’  But none diminished the unique evil of abortion as an attack on life itself, and the early Church closely associated abortion with infanticide.  In short, from the beginning, the believing Christian community held that abortion was always, gravely wrong.”

Archbishop Chaput also highlighted that “we now know with biological certainty exactly when human life begins.  Thus, today’s religious alibis for abortion and a so-called ‘right to choose’ are nothing more than that – alibis that break radically with historic Christian and Catholic belief.”

“Abortion kills an unborn, developing human life.  It is always gravely evil, and so are the evasions employed to justify it.  Catholics who make excuses for it – whether they’re famous or not – fool only themselves and abuse the fidelity of those Catholics who do sincerely seek to follow the Gospel and live their Catholic faith,” the statement adds.

Finally Archbishop Chaput recalls that “the duty of the state and its officials is to serve the common good, which is always rooted in moral truth.  A proper understanding of the ‘separation of Church and state’ does not imply a separation of faith from political life.  But of course, it’s always important to know what our faith actually teaches.”

Read the full statement at:  http://www.archden.org/images/ArchbishopCorner/ByTopic/onseparationofsense%26state_openlettercjc8.25.08.pdf


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 110th; abortion; bonhoeffer; catholicpoliticians; chaput; deathpanels; lutheran; obamacare; pelosi; zerocare
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1 posted on 08/25/2008 1:51:53 PM PDT by NYer
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To: Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...
“Abortion kills an unborn, developing human life. It is always gravely evil, and so are the evasions employed to justify it. Catholics who make excuses for it – whether they’re famous or not – fool only themselves and abuse the fidelity of those Catholics who do sincerely seek to follow the Gospel and live their Catholic faith,” the statement adds.

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2 posted on 08/25/2008 1:53:35 PM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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Good for Archbishop Chaput. As Amy Welborn says, when a politician purports to pronounce what Catholic doctrine is, bishops should as part of their teaching office correct publicly any errors stated. I remember not too long ago Boston Mayor Menino purporting to state what he thought was the correct Catholic view on homosexuality. I truly wish Cardinal O’Malley had issued a public statement correcting his errors.


3 posted on 08/25/2008 1:55:37 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: NYer

The Killer B’s - Biden and Barack


4 posted on 08/25/2008 1:56:31 PM PDT by JohnLongIsland
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To: NYer

WOW. It’s about time. There walks a man of God.

These words and others spring to mind. Now follow up with action. By her beliefs, she is a heretic. So is Biden. So is Kennedy. So is Kerry.

Bring back the stake for heretics.


5 posted on 08/25/2008 1:58:08 PM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners.)
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If Ms. Pelosi is has truly studied this issue as an “ardent” Catholic, then her response can only be seen as deception, an attempt to convince Catholics in name-only that there is wiggle room in the abortion debate. I pray that she reconsiders her view.


6 posted on 08/25/2008 2:01:04 PM PDT by reegs
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...“as an ardent, practicing Catholic, this is an issue that I have studied for a long time."

Hmm, sounds like she need more practice.

7 posted on 08/25/2008 2:01:08 PM PDT by ladtx ( "Never miss a good chance to shut up." - - Will Rogers)
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To: NYer

Pelosi should be forgiven. Her limousine rides to Sunday School when she was a Baltimore debutante clouded her memories of what was in the book meant for “those other people.”


8 posted on 08/25/2008 2:06:48 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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Ouch! Hey Pelosi, give it up you are not a Catholic!


9 posted on 08/25/2008 2:07:14 PM PDT by notaliberal (Christ Our Hope!)
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God bless Archbishop Chaput! Catholics in Denver are very fortunate to have such a good and courageous shepherd!
11 posted on 08/25/2008 2:09:47 PM PDT by Deo volente
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God bless Archbishop Chaput!!


12 posted on 08/25/2008 2:11:42 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper (A vote for third party is a vote for nObama)
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To: NYer

AMEN!


13 posted on 08/25/2008 2:11:50 PM PDT by mouse1 (I'VE BEEN CALLED A REDNECK BIGOT AND I'M PROUD OF IT!!)
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To: NTHockey

You rang???


14 posted on 08/25/2008 2:15:30 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: NYer

Yes but all of us dumb Catholics will vote for the abortion ticket of Obama/Biden because Biden is supposed to be a Cathoilc. Don’t forget that come November. You are too stupid to see through this crap.


15 posted on 08/25/2008 2:17:01 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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I’m glad she didn’t get a pass on this at least by the church. Wonder when the MSM is going to cover this!


16 posted on 08/25/2008 2:27:45 PM PDT by Federalist Society
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The point is, is that it shouldn't have an impact on the woman's right to choose.”

What shouldn't? The teaching of the Church? The actual beginning of life?

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Catholism has never been for the feint of heart.

Even less going forward, it looks like.

They're gonna hate us for shining light into their darkness.

17 posted on 08/25/2008 2:31:37 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (when you're bot, you're pwn3d)
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I am shocked that the Bishop did not add to his statement the fact that by her statement purporting to present the Church’s teachings, Pelosi has endangered the souls of those Catholics who might follow her lead. This is prima facie cause for excommunication.


18 posted on 08/25/2008 2:32:28 PM PDT by xkaydet65 (Freedom is purchased not with gold, but with steel.)
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To: NYer
Bonhoeffer, a strong critic and later victim of the Nazi regime in his native Germany wrote that “the destruction of the embryo in the mother’s womb is a violation of the right to live which God has bestowed on this nascent life. To raise the question whether we are here concerned already with a human being or not is merely to confuse the issue. The simple fact is that God certainly intended to create a human being and that this nascent human being has been deliberately deprived of his life. And that is nothing but murder.”

Interesting...I don't normally associate Bonhoffer's era with being so egregious about abortion that he would have spoken out about it.

Another similarity...

19 posted on 08/25/2008 2:34:56 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (when you're bot, you're pwn3d)
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To: the invisib1e hand

Reference your post # 19:

I agree with the cite word-for-word.


20 posted on 08/25/2008 2:37:38 PM PDT by sport
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