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9-year-old boy told hes too good to pitch
Yahoo Sports ^ | 8/25/08 | JOHN CHRISTOFFERSEN

Posted on 08/25/2008 5:44:23 PM PDT by Teflonic

NEW HAVEN, Conn. —Nine-year-old Jericho Scott is a good baseball player— too good, it turns out.

The right-hander has a fastball that tops out at about 40 mph. He throws so hard that the Youth Baseball League of New Haven told his coach that the boy could not pitch any more. When Jericho took the mound anyway last week, the opposing team forfeited the game, packed its gear and left, his coach said.

Officials for the three-year-old league, which has eight teams and about 100 players, said they will disband Jericho’s team, redistributing its players among other squads, and offered to refund $50 sign-up fees to anyone who asks for it. They say Jericho’s coach, Wilfred Vidro, has resigned.

But Vidro says he didn’t quit and the team refuses to disband. Players and parents held a protest at the league’s field on Saturday urging the league to let Jericho pitch.

“He’s never hurt any one,” Vidro said. “He’s on target all the time. How can you punish a kid for being too good?”

The controversy bothers Jericho, who says he misses pitching.

“I feel sad,” he said. “I feel like it’s all my fault nobody could play.”

Jericho’s coach and parents say the boy is being unfairly targeted because he turned down an invitation to join the defending league champion, which is sponsored by an employer of one of the league’s administrators.

Jericho instead joined a team sponsored by Will Power Fitness. The team was 8-0 and on its way to the playoffs when Jericho was banned from pitching.

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To: Jim Noble
"Jericho’s coach and parents say the boy is being unfairly targeted because he turned down an invitation to join the defending league champion, which is sponsored by an employer of one of the league’s administrators."

"Jericho instead joined a team sponsored by Will Power Fitness. The team was 8-0 and on its way to the playoffs when Jericho was banned from pitching."

Here in lies the problem. 9 years old and he's getting recruited so he joins whatever team he and his parents see as best for him. The only way to solve this is to have a draft and or random lottery for players. Somehow parents and coaches always manage to manipulate this system too. No one wants their talented little one on a losing team, even if it's by chance.

51 posted on 08/25/2008 7:12:39 PM PDT by BBell
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To: Teflonic
This league seems to be as corrupt as the DNC. Feel so bad for the poor kid caught in the middle.

If I were that sponsor I would pull the team out of the league, and then publicly announce willingness to play all comers. My business would bask in the glow of publicity.

52 posted on 08/25/2008 7:15:28 PM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: Rebelbase
Thank-you for the feminine perspective.

This feminine perspective says that excellence and achievement is not something to be punished, rather it is something to be aspired to.

So what, the kid is good, really good. So what’s so wrong with that? Oh but he and his team won too many games…oh boo hoo hoo, that might make the “underachievers” “feel bad”. Too freaking bad. In real life as in Baseball, somebody wins and somebody loses and not everyone gets a trophy. “There’s no crying in Baseball!”

At Meadowbrook swim club in Baltimore, a young Michael Phelps wasn’t thrown out of the pool because he excelled above all his competitors.
53 posted on 08/25/2008 7:27:27 PM PDT by Caramelgal (Just a lump of organized protoplasm - braying at the stars :),)
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To: Ben Chad
Mr. Rogers generation.

That's unfair to Fred Rogers.

But seriously, I'm from Mr. Rogers' generation as well (dude lasted a long time), and when I was playing Little League, if there was a kid who was dominant with the fastball (which there were - I still remember names), and some grownup started whining about how that kid was pitching "too fast", I would've thought that grownup was crazy.

54 posted on 08/25/2008 7:28:19 PM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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To: Teflonic
Having coached high school baseball for over 20 years and both my boys through youth baseball, a couple of thoughts.

40 MPH BY A 9 YEAR OLD IS NOT THAT FAST.

I have baseball camp every summer and one of our contest is radar gunning throws per age group. Several 9’s threw over 40, the winner this year was 47. What it points to is the weakness of the league. Of course when it was described as an 8-10 co-ed developmental, it sounds like more of a “fun” league that competitive.

As a dad and a coach, if this kid isn't being challenged the mom needs to move him up to a higher level of play. you don't get better throwing a good fastball by poor hitters. If he doesn't move up he'll develop poor habits and him and mom will develop some every unrealistic expectations for his future in baseball.

55 posted on 08/25/2008 7:47:05 PM PDT by fungoking
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To: Freedom4US

That would have nothing to do with his skill level, imo. However, I know very little about baseball.

I was questioning whether or not he was allowed to play up regardless of his age. The article made it seem as if he were allowed to play for a different team but didn’t mention an age policy. Is the team the same age but just a more skilled team?


56 posted on 08/25/2008 7:48:03 PM PDT by Twink
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To: Teflonic

How sad...

MY 9 year old faced another 9 year old that was topping out at about 57 mph. The guy was a HOSS (Texan/Bonanza for HUGE), but we faced him in the play offs, and even though we lost, we managed to hit off of him rather consistently.

I guess thats the difference between Texas League and normal Little League...


57 posted on 08/25/2008 7:54:00 PM PDT by pvoce ('Good' sense and 'Common' sense are two entirely different concepts.)
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To: BlazingArizona; All
You're a wise man (or woman) BlazingArizona.

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58 posted on 08/25/2008 7:56:19 PM PDT by Teflonic
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To: Teflonic
If I were in little league, I'd demand to face him... he strikes me out that's fair and square... I hit a hot shot over his head... I'm good too.

Sounds like this league is full of sissy momma's boys.

#23

59 posted on 08/25/2008 7:56:23 PM PDT by Trajan88 (www.bullittclub.com)
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To: Caramelgal

Well said. This female/mother of 4 athletes agrees that excellence should never be punished and is something to which all can aspire. Same goes for academics, imo.


60 posted on 08/25/2008 8:00:07 PM PDT by Twink
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To: Onelifetogive

My oldest daughter played softball in an area that switched from slow pitch to fast pitch. Naturally, all of the “competitive” team coaches promptly went out and recruited an experienced fast pitch pitcher or two. My daughter was on the leftover team that had no experienced pitchers. The got creamed almost every game and nobody had any fun or learned anything about the game. Most of the kids weere completely overmatched by the pitchers they played against (some went 0 for the season), but they got up there and tried anyway. My daughter hates fast pitch softball to this day (but enjoys playing slow pitch).

My younger daughter played coach pitch ball against a girl who grew up early - she was twice the size of the other kids on the field and could hit the ball much harder than most. We didn’t take our softball and go home - we pulled everyone back and told the kids to get out of the way if they couldn’t handle a hot one. A couple years later the other kids caught up to her and she was just one of the players.

Something about this article is not quite right. 40 MPH is not overly fast for a 9 year old pitcher - I know I played against kids that could throw that hard at that age, and that was a long time ago. One of them plunked me in the ribs - I survived and got a hit off him the next time up. It sounds to me like a case of the adults acting like children and spoiling the kids’ game. Chances are this kid will regress toward the mean in a year or two and the problem would be solved - but instead they’ve ruined it for everyone.


61 posted on 08/25/2008 8:11:46 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Nope. Not gonna do it.)
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To: Teflonic

“They say his hard throws may frighten other players in the baseball league for beginners”

There it is...may frighten other players. Wussy parents, imo.


62 posted on 08/25/2008 8:15:27 PM PDT by Twink
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To: Teflonic

I hope Jericho gets the last laugh, in about 10 years, when he signs a big-league contract.


63 posted on 08/25/2008 8:23:37 PM PDT by rabidralph (Watch out for the Obamakazis.)
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To: Teflonic

I played against a kid around that age who threw very hard (he’s now in the NFL as a journeyman QB for Jacksonville) and we all struck out except I hit the ball back to him. The weird thing is all of my teammates and I didn’t care, we had fun, were amazed at his skill and as we got older we caught up to him. We always viewed playing him as a challange and made us better...but who thinks of that angle anymore. Nowadays it’s if someone’s better than you, quit, blame them for your shortcomings and expect to be given something to compensate for being less skilled...

Absolutely pathetic in my view. Let the boy play, dominate the other kids this year and see if the other kids can raise their skill level to catch up with him next year. When they do catch up to him and beat him the victory would be even that much sweeter...

ugh, I just can’t stand modern society!!


65 posted on 08/25/2008 8:27:27 PM PDT by phatus maximus (John 6:29...Learn it, love it, live it...)
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To: Teflonic

Seems I recall a case (also CT ?) where a guy took the entrance exam, and was refused admittance because he scored too high — to go to the Police Academy! “They didn’t want him to become bored.”


66 posted on 08/25/2008 9:16:39 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: Teflonic

Seems I recall a case (also CT ?) where a guy took the entrance exam, and was refused admittance because he scored too high — to go to the Police Academy! “They didn’t want him to become bored.”

Whole damn state is corrupt!


67 posted on 08/25/2008 9:17:22 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: brityank
Seems I recall a case (also CT ?) where a guy took the entrance exam, and was refused admittance because he scored too high — to go to the Police Academy! “They didn’t want him to become bored.”

Not only did this actually happen, but it happened in Massachusetts!

68 posted on 08/25/2008 9:49:36 PM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: PGalt

I know what you mean. Shouldn’t we be encouraging excellence in all things?

I played basketball, baseball and football for school teams all the way up through high school and I probably got 3 or 4 trophies (letters, yes)my entire sporting career.

My kids come back from tennis and soccer with trophies for finishing fourth. The world has changed.


69 posted on 08/25/2008 9:52:19 PM PDT by Roy Tucker ("You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality."--Ayn Rand)
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To: Teflonic

This is, on the surface, a case of sour-sport losers who cannot stand getting beat....

But I think it goes deeper - notice near the end of the posted story - the kids was recruited by the defending champions who are sponsored by one of the league administrators....


70 posted on 08/25/2008 9:57:16 PM PDT by TheBattman (Vote your conscience, or don't complain about RINOs!)
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To: goldfinch

I agree, and I would worry about the little guy blowing out his arm at a young age.

His coach should let him pitch a few innings, then put him in another position.

Little kids who are throwing heat at a young age can screw themselves up. Heck, Sandy Koufax screwed himself up because he threw too much heat too early.

It sounds like they have a diamond in the rough. If they place too much emphasis on this guy winning now, they may jeopardize his future.


71 posted on 08/25/2008 11:44:27 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Merci beau coup.)
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To: Jim Noble

I have to agree with you. We took my son out of rec. baseball at 8 and went to travel. There were few kids in the league with his skill level and it did not challenge him. We put him in a league where he is a small fish in a big pond and over the years he has developed enormously.

Some parents don’t know that travel baseball exists or they don’t want to put the time into it, I can promise you it’s not for everybody. Others like their kids to be the stud.


72 posted on 08/26/2008 3:53:15 AM PDT by panthermom
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To: jagusafr

My son will be 12 in Dec., he is not overly outgoing but he is not shy either. In the 4 yrs. he has played “elite” ball his world has expanded beyond what most of his friends has. Through baseball he has made friends with boys from all over. Every year we ask him, you sure you want to do this? He always looks at me like I’m crazy for asking.

This fall he went to a team where he knew only 1 player and I have to admit I was curious to see how he would adjust. He did great, by the end of the 1st inning they were high fiving, giving thumbs up and were very supportive of one another. By Sunday, they all like best buddies. In the long run I believe it will help him as an adult to be able to go into a situation where he has to stand alone and be himself and not be attached to who he knows to be comfortable.


73 posted on 08/26/2008 4:06:47 AM PDT by panthermom
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To: Dr. Frank fan

Because they want the accolades of having a son that is a stud.

Put him up a level or put him in travel and then see how good his is when all of the kids can pitch 40 and the hitters are used to seeing that kind of pitching and launch the ball.


74 posted on 08/26/2008 4:14:38 AM PDT by panthermom
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To: pvoce

In Georgia we have the Texas mentality as well. I guess thats why Texas and Georgia rank in the top 5 in the country with kids going on to college and the MLB.


75 posted on 08/26/2008 4:21:27 AM PDT by panthermom
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To: panthermom
I guess thats why Texas and Georgia rank in the top 5 in the country with kids going on to college and the MLB.

That or the warm weather.

76 posted on 08/26/2008 4:25:32 AM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: Teflonic

My grandson called me about this last night. He could not believe it! How can anyone be ‘too good’? I hope this gets resolved and the boy is allowed to pitch.


77 posted on 08/26/2008 4:26:08 AM PDT by mathluv
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To: Publius Valerius

That does factor into it but when we play sports we play to win. Full contact football at 4 although most wait until their kids are 6, kid pitch at 7. Every sport my sons have played they keep score, even in t-ball.


78 posted on 08/26/2008 4:47:43 AM PDT by panthermom
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To: phatus maximus

Sounds like Affirmative Action to me.


79 posted on 08/26/2008 5:46:54 AM PDT by seemoAR
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To: panthermom

I’m glad he was ready and is shining! I see too many who get to a certain age and then get frozen out - not selected - because they haven’t developed as quickly as their peers. It devastates many of them and they feel like losers, and at 14, boys and girls have enough self-esteem issues anyway...I’m a firm believer in merit selection, but I see it done so poorly.

Colonel, USAFR


80 posted on 08/26/2008 7:33:30 AM PDT by jagusafr ("Bugs, Mr. Rico! Zillions of 'em!" - Robert Heinlein)
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To: phatus maximus
"ugh, I just can’t stand modern society!!"

It gets worse...

Harrison Bergeron
- Kurt Vonnegut

81 posted on 08/26/2008 7:39:29 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: BlazingArizona

Connecticut. Massachusetts.

There’s a difference ?

;^)


82 posted on 08/26/2008 8:31:11 AM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: Dr. Frank fan

Maybe the really good pitcher is not that great of a batter or fielder, so he needs to play in a development league to get better at those other skills. He can’t pitch all the time if it is a “little league.” Even the non “little leagues” where our boys play have pitching rules for various age levels. The child cannot pitch for every game. And making a 9-year-old play with 11/12yrolds could be too much for him. (I don’t think so based on our boys, but it’s possible. Our second son has been playing with 12yrolds since he was barely 9. He hasn’t had a problem except when he was catching for a boy who was throwing 75+. He cried a few times when he had to catch for that boy, but by the next season, he loved the challenge.)


83 posted on 08/26/2008 12:38:49 PM PDT by petitfour
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