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Conservative Dems bailing on Obama; Rasmussen has no Michelle O bounce ^ | August 27, 2008 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 08/27/2008 10:04:06 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

Barack Obama has had an unprecedented slide in polling over the summer, losing as much as twelve points nationally and squandering momentum gained from besting Hillary Clinton in the primaries. Gallup’s polling has mirrored that of almost every other national survey, and they drill down to find the answer to Obama’s decline:

Barack Obama has been struggling to maintain his Democratic base thus far in August, and according to weekly averages of Gallup Poll Daily tracking, the problem seems to be with conservative Democrats.

Within the Democratic Party, Obama’s losses are primarily evident among the relatively small group that describes its political views as conservative. The 63% of conservative Democrats supporting Obama over McCain in Aug. 18-24 polling is the lowest Obama has earned since he clinched the Democratic nomination in June. At the same time, there have been no similar drops in support for Obama in the preferences of liberal or moderate Democrats.

As a result of this, support for Obama among all Democratic registered voters fell from 81% in early August (Aug. 4-10) to 78% last week (Aug. 18-24). Obama’s support from Republicans over this period also dipped from 9% to 7%, while 42% to 43% of independents have consistently supported him.

It’s not just conservative Democrats, either, although that has to be Obama’s main concern at the moment. Blue-dog Democrats have to run for tough Congressional races in the fall, and they will get linked to Obama regardless of whether they publicly embrace him or not. If Obama is losing credibility among conservative Democrats, the Blue Dogs will find that Obama’s impact on their race will become a net negative and could cost some of them their seats — most of which they won from Republicans in 2006.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2008dncconvention; democrats; electionpresident; elections; nobama08; obama; puma
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To: Blood of Tyrants

“Practically no one is watching it despite it being on EVERY news network and all three broadcast networks, and PBS.”

17 Million viewers for the Boring monday night gig isn’t exactly “No One”, and they are hyping the Obama/Nuremburg rally everywhere...

41 posted on 08/27/2008 10:29:22 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Beware Of False Prophets/ME-ssiahs Selling Hopium....)
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To: marron

Good point.

42 posted on 08/27/2008 10:29:25 AM PDT by WayneS (What the hell is wrong with these people?)
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To: tcrlaf


43 posted on 08/27/2008 10:31:09 AM PDT by WayneS (What the hell is wrong with these people?)
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To: Artemis Webb
I agree. The older dems also will be immune to the emotion of thinking how cool it would be to vote for a (half) black man to be POTUS.

But I've said before, if we don't vote for him because of his name, because of his race, because he's a stone cold marxist, or because he's going to tax us into oblivion, the only reason the Obamamedia will print about is because he's black.

Knowing that lets me say without the slightest bit of regret that I could not freakin care less if people don't vote for him because he's black, as long as they don't vote for him.

44 posted on 08/27/2008 10:35:56 AM PDT by libs_kma (NOBAMA. Keep the change)
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To: TruthWillWin
Conservative Dems???

That and liberal Republican. Both oxymoron. If you are a democrat you are not conservative, and if you are a liberal you are not a Republican.
45 posted on 08/27/2008 10:38:09 AM PDT by rideharddiefast
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To: Artemis Webb

Unfortunately, the white-haired grannies who remember FDR aren’t around in big numbers.

The “new” grannies love getting their government checks and their free “pills.” The ARP has turned many of them into “Selfish Seniors.”

The Democrats are buying the votes of our young people with soothing messages of “social justice” and “protecting the environment.” They going after seniors with “the right to healthcare.”

46 posted on 08/27/2008 10:39:20 AM PDT by rightinthemiddle (The Mainstream Media Controls Our Party. Go, RINOS!)
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To: Red Badger
This is a man with no resume....What little there is can’t be documented. He is the man who never was.

Sounds like a double naught spy...

Sounds like a Manchurian Candidate to me.

47 posted on 08/27/2008 10:41:04 AM PDT by Nevermore ("A million here, a million there, pretty soon your talking about real money.")
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To: Artemis Webb
I know of two very and I mean very long time loyal Democrats who have told me they will not vote for "Da Rack o Bam ma'am" under any circumstances.

One is a widowed single mom with a 6 year old boy and the other is a 70 something grandfatherly friend of my family.

When they both announced they were voting for McCain I nearly fell off my chair....that's how shocked I was.

In all the years I've known these two they have never...ever voted Republican.

48 posted on 08/27/2008 10:41:04 AM PDT by thingumbob (Dead terrorists don't make more terrorists!)
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To: Deb

The far left completely mis-read the mood of the people. They thought that they had revved up enough Bush hatred that the people would elect any warm body that had a D after his name. It worked in the 2006 congressional elections and they thought it would carry through the presidential elections. They are making the same mistake that Hillary Clinton made. They accused her of thinking that she was the anointed one!

I heard somewhere that the Greek columns on the mile high stadium aren’t supposed to symbolize a Greek Temple, they are supposed to look like the front of the Whitehouse.

The real problem for Obama, right now is Ayres. Greta had Kurtz from NRO on last night. He said that he had finally obtained the papers regarding the board that Obama was on with Ayers and that they are devastating to Obama. It is clear that he has lied about his relationship and not only that but where the money went that the board was spending looks like it went to his own radical supporters. Kurtz said that it looks very bad for Obama.

49 posted on 08/27/2008 10:42:17 AM PDT by Eva (CHANGE- the post modern euphemism for Marxist revolution.)
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To: Nevermore

Only this Manchurian candidate went to school in Indonesia and Pakistan!.............

50 posted on 08/27/2008 10:44:22 AM PDT by Red Badger (All that carbon in all that oil and coal was once in the atmosphere. We're just putting it back.....)
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To: Eva

I certainly hope the papers get out some time soon, say...before the election.

51 posted on 08/27/2008 10:51:09 AM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: LYSandra
like a black Donna Reed

You go back a ways, don't ya? :-]

52 posted on 08/27/2008 10:51:36 AM PDT by tbpiper (Obama/Biden: Instead of Ebony and Ivory, we have Arrogance and Insolence.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Barack is in a free fall ever since his “above my pay grade” remark. The Ayers stuff is getting out and it is not helping, either. No bounce from the VP pick, no bounce from the convention so far. Watch tonite and see if he gets a bounce from his ‘coronation pageant’. By the time the Dems realize or (admit to) the truth, the convention will be over and Obama will be the pick.

53 posted on 08/27/2008 10:52:08 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: tbpiper

Question: How does a “messiah” restore his image, once it begins to sink?

Answer: By dying on a cross, and then rising from the dead, three days later.

54 posted on 08/27/2008 10:54:13 AM PDT by noah (noah)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Well things are getting interesting as to how the election will turn out. The conventional wisdom has been that Dems. will gain congressional seats in November, but, based on this, they may not be able to build on their gains in the Nov. ‘06 mid term elections.

It is very important who McCain chooses at this point. It is the South and Midwest dems who will not support Obama, but it is those same Republicans who will not support a liberal republican VP.

Choose somebody like Romney or Guilliani and you have the same republican problem in the Bible Belt and Heartland and tie the race up again. So far I have seen nothing that lets me think we as a party are going to play any card we have in our hand well this year, just like every other year the country-club crowd has gotten in charge though this one does seem worse.

55 posted on 08/27/2008 10:56:18 AM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I agree that there is a chance we could pick up seats. Consider that a lot of Democrats don’t want to vote for Obama, (PUMAs, etc.). Some of them may vote for McCain, but the vast majority will not want to vote at all, staying home and leaving the down ballot races for the Repubs to pick up.

56 posted on 08/27/2008 10:56:31 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: nathanbedford
Would anyone care to speculate why Obama has not suffered the same degree of losses among independents?

As far as I'm concerned, Independents have no courage of convictions and are de facto Liberals.

They can be counted on to vote for the "feel good" candidate who promises them everything for nothing (the Democrat), unless they feel threatened. Then they will vote for the responsible candidate (the Republican) who they count on to save their butts.

Independents are sunshine citizens. That is why their support of Obama hasn't waivered.

57 posted on 08/27/2008 10:56:36 AM PDT by DakotaGator
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To: thingumbob
My family was eating dinner one night at my mother in laws. Her husband who is a first generation Italian, union card carrying, life long Democrat said, “I'm voting for McCain because there is no way I'm voting for a colored man.” My liberal teenage daughter's eyes got as big around and saucers but she bit her tongue.

I am glad he doesn't call himself a Republican. More to the point though it is pretty obvious that my Mother in laws husband and your Democrat friends might be a little more typical of what might happen in the general election than some might think.

58 posted on 08/27/2008 10:59:06 AM PDT by Artemis Webb ("The church is near, but the road is icy. The bar is far away, but I will walk carefully.")
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Early this year I said on this forum that the more people know about Obama, the worse his polls would be. McCain was a known entity. Obama was almost completely unknown, and I’ll wager that a lot of his radical past is still unknown to the general public.

59 posted on 08/27/2008 10:59:50 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Conservative Dems bailing on Obama; Rasmussen has no Michelle O bounce

Really!!?? There are CONSERVATIVE Democrats??

WHO KNEW!!!???

60 posted on 08/27/2008 11:00:17 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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