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Conservative Dems bailing on Obama; Rasmussen has no Michelle O bounce
hotair.com ^ | August 27, 2008 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 08/27/2008 10:04:06 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

Barack Obama has had an unprecedented slide in polling over the summer, losing as much as twelve points nationally and squandering momentum gained from besting Hillary Clinton in the primaries. Gallup’s polling has mirrored that of almost every other national survey, and they drill down to find the answer to Obama’s decline:

Barack Obama has been struggling to maintain his Democratic base thus far in August, and according to weekly averages of Gallup Poll Daily tracking, the problem seems to be with conservative Democrats.

Within the Democratic Party, Obama’s losses are primarily evident among the relatively small group that describes its political views as conservative. The 63% of conservative Democrats supporting Obama over McCain in Aug. 18-24 polling is the lowest Obama has earned since he clinched the Democratic nomination in June. At the same time, there have been no similar drops in support for Obama in the preferences of liberal or moderate Democrats.

As a result of this, support for Obama among all Democratic registered voters fell from 81% in early August (Aug. 4-10) to 78% last week (Aug. 18-24). Obama’s support from Republicans over this period also dipped from 9% to 7%, while 42% to 43% of independents have consistently supported him.

It’s not just conservative Democrats, either, although that has to be Obama’s main concern at the moment. Blue-dog Democrats have to run for tough Congressional races in the fall, and they will get linked to Obama regardless of whether they publicly embrace him or not. If Obama is losing credibility among conservative Democrats, the Blue Dogs will find that Obama’s impact on their race will become a net negative and could cost some of them their seats — most of which they won from Republicans in 2006.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2008dncconvention; democrats; electionpresident; elections; nobama08; obama; puma
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To: Eva

I certainly hope the papers get out some time soon, say...before the election.


51 posted on 08/27/2008 10:51:09 AM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: LYSandra
like a black Donna Reed

You go back a ways, don't ya? :-]

52 posted on 08/27/2008 10:51:36 AM PDT by tbpiper (Obama/Biden: Instead of Ebony and Ivory, we have Arrogance and Insolence.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Barack is in a free fall ever since his “above my pay grade” remark. The Ayers stuff is getting out and it is not helping, either. No bounce from the VP pick, no bounce from the convention so far. Watch tonite and see if he gets a bounce from his ‘coronation pageant’. By the time the Dems realize or (admit to) the truth, the convention will be over and Obama will be the pick.


53 posted on 08/27/2008 10:52:08 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: tbpiper

Question: How does a “messiah” restore his image, once it begins to sink?

Answer: By dying on a cross, and then rising from the dead, three days later.


54 posted on 08/27/2008 10:54:13 AM PDT by noah (noah)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Well things are getting interesting as to how the election will turn out. The conventional wisdom has been that Dems. will gain congressional seats in November, but, based on this, they may not be able to build on their gains in the Nov. ‘06 mid term elections.

It is very important who McCain chooses at this point. It is the South and Midwest dems who will not support Obama, but it is those same Republicans who will not support a liberal republican VP.

Choose somebody like Romney or Guilliani and you have the same republican problem in the Bible Belt and Heartland and tie the race up again. So far I have seen nothing that lets me think we as a party are going to play any card we have in our hand well this year, just like every other year the country-club crowd has gotten in charge though this one does seem worse.

55 posted on 08/27/2008 10:56:18 AM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I agree that there is a chance we could pick up seats. Consider that a lot of Democrats don’t want to vote for Obama, (PUMAs, etc.). Some of them may vote for McCain, but the vast majority will not want to vote at all, staying home and leaving the down ballot races for the Repubs to pick up.


56 posted on 08/27/2008 10:56:31 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: nathanbedford
Would anyone care to speculate why Obama has not suffered the same degree of losses among independents?

As far as I'm concerned, Independents have no courage of convictions and are de facto Liberals.

They can be counted on to vote for the "feel good" candidate who promises them everything for nothing (the Democrat), unless they feel threatened. Then they will vote for the responsible candidate (the Republican) who they count on to save their butts.

Independents are sunshine citizens. That is why their support of Obama hasn't waivered.

57 posted on 08/27/2008 10:56:36 AM PDT by DakotaGator
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To: thingumbob
My family was eating dinner one night at my mother in laws. Her husband who is a first generation Italian, union card carrying, life long Democrat said, “I'm voting for McCain because there is no way I'm voting for a colored man.” My liberal teenage daughter's eyes got as big around and saucers but she bit her tongue.

I am glad he doesn't call himself a Republican. More to the point though it is pretty obvious that my Mother in laws husband and your Democrat friends might be a little more typical of what might happen in the general election than some might think.

58 posted on 08/27/2008 10:59:06 AM PDT by Artemis Webb ("The church is near, but the road is icy. The bar is far away, but I will walk carefully.")
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Early this year I said on this forum that the more people know about Obama, the worse his polls would be. McCain was a known entity. Obama was almost completely unknown, and I’ll wager that a lot of his radical past is still unknown to the general public.


59 posted on 08/27/2008 10:59:50 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Conservative Dems bailing on Obama; Rasmussen has no Michelle O bounce

Really!!?? There are CONSERVATIVE Democrats??

WHO KNEW!!!???

60 posted on 08/27/2008 11:00:17 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: Carley

Wait a minute, I thought Chuck Todd was a Republican? He and Joe are the only ones without venom dripping out of their mouths.

And poor Joe — his days are numbered. I like him, and just hope he makes it through both conventions.


61 posted on 08/27/2008 11:03:20 AM PDT by EnquiringMind
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To: rightinthemiddle

My “FDR Grannie” passed this Spring. If she were still with us I have no doubt that some nurses-aid would be voting her absentee ballot for Obama from the break-room.


62 posted on 08/27/2008 11:05:48 AM PDT by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: EnquiringMind

I cannot imagine what is going on behind the scenes at MSNBC. Someone is going to take a swing at someone pretty soon. It seems tho, that Mika is being especially nice to Joe.


63 posted on 08/27/2008 11:09:12 AM PDT by Carley
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To: Lady Heron
It is very important who McCain chooses at this point. It is the South and Midwest dems who will not support Obama, but it is those same Republicans who will not support a liberal republican VP.

Absolutely on target!! McCain's VP choice is critical and if he chooses poorly, there could actually be a close race between the people not voting for the Obamessiah, and people not voting for McCain.

64 posted on 08/27/2008 11:16:15 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: Tallguy
some nurses-aid would be voting her absentee ballot for Obama from the break-room.

They probably will do it anyway.

65 posted on 08/27/2008 11:20:46 AM PDT by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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To: Artemis Webb
Oh, I'm sure there are plenty of people born prior to the civil rights movement that will not vote for a colored man....and that 70 something grandfather is possibly one of them however, that recently widowed single mom with the 6 year old son is in her mid-forties and I never would have expected that from her....never.

They both echoed the exact same sentiments about NObama and neither of them were together at the same event. Something big is going out there and I can only guess what it is......gas prices, a do nothing congress, Russian aggression in Georgia, years of empty dimrat promises, tax increases are the answer to everything????

Your guess is as good as mine...all I know is that I don't even remember this kind of anger back 1994 when both houses switched over to the right.

66 posted on 08/27/2008 11:26:16 AM PDT by thingumbob (Dead terrorists don't make more terrorists!)
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To: Eva
Thanks for that report, Eva. Did Kurtz mention what his next move is...writing another column, giving the docs to a news outlet, etc.? Did Greta ask to view them?
67 posted on 08/27/2008 11:34:53 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Deb

Oh, the papers were released this week. Stanley Kurtz has been reviewing them, but the Obama campaign is trying to have the 527 who made the ad about Obama and Ayres legally investigated. This could have several purposes, one, to shut down all investigation into the Ayres affair (by getting a judge to shut it off until a judicial verdict comes in), two, to warn all media outlets off covering the story, lest they be accused of being an accomplice.


68 posted on 08/27/2008 11:40:04 AM PDT by Eva (CHANGE- the post modern euphemism for Marxist revolution.)
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To: Miss Didi

Greta tried to down play the news, which was listed as breaking news, by the way. She said to Kurtz, but this isn’t 100% yet, right? Kurtz said, well, he hadn’t had a chance to review all the documents,yet, but that from what we knew before and what he has read so far, this is very very serious for Obama, that not only did he lie about his relationship with Ayres, but that the money that was supposed to benefit the public schools did no such thing. That the money simply went to the radical far left groups that support Obama politics.

Greta asked Kurtz to keep her updated.


69 posted on 08/27/2008 12:00:02 PM PDT by Eva (CHANGE- the post modern euphemism for Marxist revolution.)
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To: Eva

Thanks for that report...I pinged you on another thread, too. Rush has barely touched on this topic, which is odd. Could it be that everyone is waiting to see if Barry will succeed in getting a judge to block all reporting?


70 posted on 08/27/2008 12:06:33 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: tbpiper

Yeh I go back aways-wanna make something of it?! Ha! Guess I thought of Donna Reed because all she was missing was the “house dress”!!! Even the swoop hair!


71 posted on 08/27/2008 12:41:06 PM PDT by LYSandra
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“..the Blue Dogs will find that Obama’s impact on their race will become a net negative and could cost some of them their seats.. “
barack mcgovern will hang around the neck of some down ballot rats like a flaming gosoline filled tire.


72 posted on 08/27/2008 1:14:12 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
NOT CHET EDWARDS!!!

he's got his lips firmly placed on the hind quarters of Barak Hussein Obamalamadingdong.

cause doncha know that the mean republicans in the Waco and Bryan-college Station area wouldn't shovel pork to A&M or fund the Waco VA...

Mean old Republicans would chunk the vets under a bridge and somehow make A&M .....what? A poor university....

Someone in Edward's district needs to find us a congressman that will get rid of this putz and hang obabamalamadingdong around his neck for the rest of his life.

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73 posted on 08/27/2008 8:21:15 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck....... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.,)
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To: Eva

Crickets from the mainstreamers. I’ve heard how the Obama brown shirts are attempting a media blockade and assassination of Kurtz.


74 posted on 08/29/2008 11:39:04 AM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: A_Former_Democrat

La de da de de, la de da de da.


75 posted on 08/29/2008 11:47:26 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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