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Palin's Social Views Hurt Ticket
Real Clear Poltics ^ | 9/4/08 | Froma Harrop

Posted on 09/04/2008 8:42:02 AM PDT by steve-b

I had dinner last night with a Republican-leaning independent who was despondent over John McCain's choice of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate. She had been looking forward to supporting McCain as a fiscal conservative with a deep understanding of foreign relations. But all she could now see was that picture of Palin's pregnant 17-year-old looking defiant and stupid as she held mom's fifth baby.

Many religious conservatives are jubilant. They regard Palin as a swell choice because her high-schooler was going to have the baby. The line sent my friend into shock. This is not a matter of abortion politics, she said, but of managing one's own affairs.

"Don't they have birth control up in Alaska?" she asked....

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections; US: Alaska
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2008veep; barbie; catfight; democrats; dnctalkingpoints; elections; mccainpalin; palin; palinfamily; palinnomination; palinrippedmyflesh; pds; sarahpalinbarbie; stevebgone; supressthevote; troll; zot
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To: bluecollarman

Thanks for those graphics in post 95.

But I’ve got to ask a favor...could you check the linkage?
All I get is “not found” when I click them.

Thanks in advance...for at least giving it a try!


101 posted on 09/04/2008 9:36:34 AM PDT by VOA
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To: torchthemummy

I just dashed off an e-mail to this reporterette, hope to hear back from her. Do you think I was clear enough (see below)

Hey Froma, I want to invite you out to my place in California, I have enough land to do some agriculture and thought you would be the perfect Green source for a significant amount of free fertilizer. Considering how much BS you have in your article, including the old Liberal canard “I spoke to a Republican the other day” I figured you would generate a bumper crop.

Let me know when you can come on out, I will get the tractor spooled up and we can plop your liberal butt on the backside and get er done!

Come on down!

Whacha think?


102 posted on 09/04/2008 9:36:50 AM PDT by 100American
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To: steve-b
"Don't they have birth control up in Alaska?" she asked

You know what kind of "birth control" she's talking about, don't you?

"Don't they have abortion services up in Alaska ?"

103 posted on 09/04/2008 9:37:16 AM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: steve-b
Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment
Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”

104 posted on 09/04/2008 9:38:35 AM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: thecabal
steve-b seems to share the author’s feelings that Sarah should be barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen.

No one seems to be asking why Joe Biden didn't become a stay-at-home dad, at least temporarily, to care for and emotionally support his two remaining and seriously injured children when their mother (his wife) and infant daughter were killed in a car accident. In Palin's case, at least, there is a father involved to help out with the child raising. I can't understand how he (Biden) could have done that.

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"In 1966, while in law school, Biden married Neilia Hunter. They had three children, Joseph R. 'Beau' Biden III, Robert Hunter, and Naomi Christina ('Amy'). His wife and infant daughter died in a car accident shortly after he was first elected to the Senate in 1972. His two sons, Beau and Hunter, were seriously injured in the accident, but both eventually made full recoveries.

Biden was sworn into office from their bedside. Persuaded not to resign in order to care for them, Biden began the practice of commuting an hour and a half each day on the train from his home in the Wilmington suburbs to Washington, D.C., which he continues to do."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden#Early_life_and_family

105 posted on 09/04/2008 9:38:40 AM PDT by ETL (Smoking-gun evidence on all the ObamaRat-Commie connections at my FR Profile/Home page)
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To: steve-b; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; ...
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Freep-mail me to get on or off my pro-life and Catholic List:

Add me / Remove me

Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of interest.

Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment

Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”

106 posted on 09/04/2008 9:40:00 AM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: steve-b

Want to see how scared the dems are? They just took this vote away from the people of Ohio today with the promise of everything being taken care of after obama gets elected.
http://www.dispatchpolitics.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2008/09/04/sickday.html?adsec=politics&sid=101


107 posted on 09/04/2008 9:42:33 AM PDT by chouli
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To: steve-b
Both the author and her friend are twits.
The left is doing all they can to go after Palin and her family.
It exposes the complete vileness of the Democratic Party.
108 posted on 09/04/2008 9:50:58 AM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
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To: Kevmo

KEVMO, you’re a good guy and I love your enthusiasm, but please stop spamming all Palin threads with the same content.


109 posted on 09/04/2008 9:55:00 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (DEATH TO PUTIN!)
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To: VOA
"All I get is “not found” when I click them."

Sorry about that, too much a hurry I guess. Try This


or this

110 posted on 09/04/2008 9:55:59 AM PDT by bluecollarman (missing)
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To: steve-b

Froma Harrop evidently didn’t get the memo to lay off the kid. “Stupid and defiant” applied to the Obama daughters would get her run out of liberal journalism on a rail. And if she knows any “Republican-leaning independents” I’m Mickey Mouse.


111 posted on 09/04/2008 10:00:50 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: sitetest

I hear that Rhode Island has a Republican governor, who is not too bad, considering what part of the country he comes from.


112 posted on 09/04/2008 10:01:45 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (DEATH TO PUTIN!)
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To: steve-b

I’ve seen the future and she looks good.


113 posted on 09/04/2008 10:03:15 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (Annoy the media, end the Obamanation, vote maverick, McCain/Palin '08)
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To: CSM

PUMA = ‘Party Unity My As-’ which is a group of unreconstructed Hillary Clinton supporters.


114 posted on 09/04/2008 10:04:11 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (DEATH TO PUTIN!)
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To: chouli
I live in Ohio. We should be glad the sick days issue is off the ballot. It was going to pass, and not only that, it was going to provide an impetus for Obama voters to turn out at the polls.

The legislature can't do worse than what the issue would have done.

115 posted on 09/04/2008 10:05:16 AM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: steve-b

Froma Harop=media RAT. What did you expect her to write?


116 posted on 09/04/2008 10:09:53 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: ozzymandus
Froma Harop=media RAT. What did you expect her to write?

Stevie-boy is thrilled to death that Harrop wrote this.

117 posted on 09/04/2008 10:13:34 AM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: 100American

LOL!


118 posted on 09/04/2008 10:18:16 AM PDT by torchthemummy (Bill & Hillary Are Now Worth 5% Pts. For McCain & That's Not Counting The PUMAs)
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To: buccaneer81

Ya know, I had dinner with 30 million commieRAT leftards last week, and they’re all going to vote for McCain just because of Palin. (I should be a “reporter”)


119 posted on 09/04/2008 10:26:42 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

You know why Free Republic is so slow this morning? Because about a million new energized conservative activists are checking it out. They don’t jump from thread to thread like you do.

So the answer is, for now, no. But thanks for being polite about it.


120 posted on 09/04/2008 10:28:03 AM PDT by Kevmo (Obama Birth Certificate is a Forgery. http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/certifigate/index?tab=articles)
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To: steve-b

stevebgone! Are you there?


121 posted on 09/04/2008 10:33:32 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Kevmo
You know why Free Republic is so slow this morning?

Because you're spamming all the threads? ;-)

122 posted on 09/04/2008 10:36:42 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (DEATH TO PUTIN!)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

Ahhh, thanks.


123 posted on 09/04/2008 10:41:36 AM PDT by CSM ("Conservobabes are hot. Libitches are not." - stolen from rightinthemiddle)
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To: steve-b; Slapshot68
"The American left -- which now embodies the Washington government class, the American mainstream media, and the Democrat Party -- are truly frightened of God. That's who they're trying to beat. They're trying to wipe God out of every heart and soul in this country."

Rush Limbaugh 9-3-08

124 posted on 09/04/2008 10:45:43 AM PDT by Jackknife ( "The Bureau of Alcohol,Tobacco, and Firearms should be a department store, not a gov't agency.")
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

Learn about the Page Down key, dude. I’m not posting pictures, so these posts don’t take up a lot of bandwidth like the more fancy stuff. Save your indignation for them. In fact, since those pictures take up about 2 orders of magnitude more bandwidth, you should have a corresponding amount of indignation for them. But you won’t do that, because you’re lazy. Until then, I’m reaching those millions of new freepers with a cool song, and you, lazy bones, can learn about the Page Down key.


125 posted on 09/04/2008 10:48:32 AM PDT by Kevmo (Obama Birth Certificate is a Forgery. http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/certifigate/index?tab=articles)
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To: steve-b

projectile vomit alert?
lib dum dum alert?
jealous lib alert?


126 posted on 09/04/2008 10:49:54 AM PDT by machogirl
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To: Kevmo

Heck, how would you have responded if I had NOT put a smiley in my post?


127 posted on 09/04/2008 11:00:38 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (DEATH TO PUTIN!)
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To: Kevmo

Congratulations. An original post after about 20 consecutive postings of your song! BTW, photos do not reside on FreeRepublic but are only linked in the postings. Bandwidth is pulled from the sites that host the photos.


128 posted on 09/04/2008 11:15:08 AM PDT by E=MC2
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To: E=MC2

photos do not reside on FreeRepublic but are only linked in the postings. Bandwidth is pulled from the sites that host the photos.
***Tell that to my computer when it’s bogged down with pictures over a wireless internet connection. When I go to sites that are text-only it’s much faster.

Page down key is yer friend for now.


129 posted on 09/04/2008 11:21:25 AM PDT by Kevmo (Obama Birth Certificate is a Forgery. http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/certifigate/index?tab=articles)
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To: steve-b

I think there is a segment of the liberal-leaning female population who just hate children and those who bear them.

I can’t have my own kids, but have adopted 2 and am waiting for the 3rd. I was asked by one perplexed woman why I adopted when, if I felt the need to love something, I could just get a dog. Go figure.


130 posted on 09/04/2008 11:32:48 AM PDT by keepitreal ("I'm Barack Obama and I approve this message. . . until I don't.")
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To: eclecticEel
Good think we don’t elect 17-year-olds to be VP.

and fifty year olds are OK? - think algore.
131 posted on 09/04/2008 11:35:52 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: elizabetty

“This has nothing to do with Romney”

If the poster of this article was a supporter of Romney then it certainly does have something to do with it....
He’s posting article after article critical of Palin...

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:steveb/index?tab=articles


132 posted on 09/04/2008 11:38:16 AM PDT by kanawa (It's Palin on the breakaway...She shoots....She Scorrrrres!!!)
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To: steve-b

“Froma Harrop” LOL


133 posted on 09/04/2008 11:41:53 AM PDT by verity ("Lord, what fools we mortals be!")
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To: OpusatFR
Her social policies? She’s pro-life chick. So am I.

And you voted for Obama?????

134 posted on 09/04/2008 11:42:53 AM PDT by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: montag813
Alexander Hamilton was his mother's third child, born when she was around 25 years old.

(She died in 1769, aged around 40, and Hamilton was 14 at the time.)

He was, however, illegitimate (as was his older brother).

135 posted on 09/04/2008 11:50:59 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse - TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: steve-b
Well I confirmed it...Froma is single, just as I thought. Like most feminists, she is probably bitter due to all of that pent up frustration from not getting any.

At least I have religion and guns...

136 posted on 09/04/2008 11:55:38 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: steve-b
This thought came to me the other day in reading about the abortion issue. The WOMB is the only part of a woman's body that has no function unless there is another human inhabiting it. Therefore, it is NOT a part of her body that a woman can exercise complete control over. The Womb belongs to the Baby who lives in it, not to the woman/mother-to-be who is carrying the womb with the baby in it.

Maybe scientists and doctors should work on an invention that will copy what the womb does so that these "wymn" who wish for abortions can have their entire WOMB removed and the womb can be placed in this invention and allow the BABY inside, to grow and then be adopted. THEN the "wymn" don't have to worry about Abortion because they no longer have the WOMB, which WAS NOT THEIRS TO DESTROY in the first place.

OR
"Wymn" who are pro-abortion should just have their uterus removed when they turn from "women" to "wymn" and then go about their lives without trying to force their opinions on others.

Won't ever happen, I know. Not too much science, but lately medicine seems bent on destroying life -- elderly, sick, if they need body parts, unborn -- instead of "doing no harm" to life.

137 posted on 09/04/2008 12:10:07 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (The Number of the Beast:"six hundred threescore six." Barack Hussein Obama can translate:"Lucifer.")
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To: steve-b

This is maybe the third or fourth time today on the net that I have seen - word for word - this same “opinion” about Palin, under different by-lines (different “authors”) on different venues.

I think the Dims have planted some trolls, even on some “conservative” venues, and now they are executing the line of march on Palin - claim to be speaking with or speaking for “Independents” or “Moderates” of either party, in attempt to frame their view as the view of “Independents” and “Moderates”.


138 posted on 09/04/2008 12:29:38 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: steve-b

Froma Harrop? They can’t make these names up.


139 posted on 09/04/2008 12:30:43 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: steve-b
Palin's Social Views Hurt Ticket

A combo of wishful thinking and propaganda. ...doomed to failure.

Sarah Palin (VP: '08 - ' 12; President: '12 - '20)

Get used to it.

140 posted on 09/04/2008 12:55:19 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo (Obama wants to raise taxes and kill babies; Palin wants to raise babies and kill taxes)
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To: Kevmo
***Tell that to my computer when it’s bogged down with pictures over a wireless internet connection. When I go to sites that are text-only it’s much faster.

I repeat. Posted photos on FR are NOT located on FR server but are only linked in the post. Look at the source code for the posts.

141 posted on 09/08/2008 9:21:32 AM PDT by E=MC2
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To: E=MC2

Then I repeat, though we’re beating a dead horse.

My computer does not know the difference. Unless people are using Linux to code their browsers individually, 99% of users have the same experience. The reason you are complaining about spam is because of your own user experience. But it has nothing to do with Bandwidth — that’s a simple red herring. If you’re going to complain about spam, the pictures should be your biggest target. But you’re not complaining about the pictures, because you have some other agenda (don’t like the “birth record” mentioned?) or you’re just a Clymer.

Repeat all you want, but it shows you ain’t listening. Go back into your hole.


142 posted on 09/08/2008 9:28:07 AM PDT by Kevmo (Obama Birth Certificate is a Forgery. http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/certifigate/index?tab=articles)
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To: 50sDad

I don’t understand, though, why conservatives are championing someone who brags about her and her husband’s membership in labor unions, took profits from oil companies and gave them to citizens (isn’t that what Hugo Chavez does?), and is one of the biggest takers of earmarks. And there must have been a hundred threads here over time vilifying working mothers. It seems like everyone’s values have changed overnight.


143 posted on 09/08/2008 9:41:15 AM PDT by Crystal Cove
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To: Kevmo
My computer does not know the difference.

Correct. Your computer does not see any difference. However, the original post was about FR bandwidth and pictures do not take up FR bandwidth as they are only linked, not posted on FR. Look at the source code or right click on the photo and you will see that it does not reside on FR.

144 posted on 09/08/2008 9:54:41 AM PDT by E=MC2
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To: Crystal Cove
I don’t understand, though, why conservatives are championing someone who brags about her and her husband’s membership in labor unions,

My wife is union but is a conservative.

took profits from oil companies and gave them to citizens (isn’t that what Hugo Chavez does?),

No. Go do your research.

and is one of the biggest takers of earmarks.

No. Go do your research.


145 posted on 09/08/2008 10:00:32 AM PDT by E=MC2
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To: E=MC2

original post was about FR bandwidth and pictures do not take up FR bandwidth
***ho hum, red herring again. Rinse and repeat.

If you’re so convinced this is the right thing for Free Republic, let’s open up a thread on “the definition of spam”. Currently the definition is “whoever is the admin moderator on duty calls it as he sees it”. So Clymers like you send in their little anonymous complaints, hiding behind mommy’s skirt, and the issue never gets addressed. But you won’t do that because your objection isn’t really about “bandwidth” on FR.


146 posted on 09/08/2008 10:05:54 AM PDT by Kevmo (Obama Birth Certificate is a Forgery. http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/certifigate/index?tab=articles)
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To: E=MC2

I have done research on the earmarks, and everything I can find says Alaska has the highest per capital earmarks of any state in the country, and that Wasilla didn’t receive earmarks until Palin became mayor and hired Ted Stevens’ lobbyist to secure earmarks for her city.

And I just saw another clip of her saying the she took profits from the oil companies and gave them to the people of Alaska.

Can you give me links that dispute the above? I can’t find anything that does.


147 posted on 09/08/2008 10:08:27 AM PDT by Crystal Cove
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To: steve-b

The wonderfully named Froma Harrop has searched out and found a disgruntled RINO who doesn’t like Sarah. If she keeps this up she will have found some dozens by election day. Meantime, Sarah marches on.


148 posted on 09/08/2008 10:16:33 AM PDT by Malesherbes
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To: E=MC2; Crystal Cove

The union thing is meant for those “Reagon Democrats”. And of course lots of Conservatives are union. Even though they may not like it - if they want to work in their trade they pretty much need to be union.

She renegotiated the oil contracts that were done awhile ago and under the earlier “good old” boys network with allegations of kickbacks, etc. In addition to the increased taxes, there were incentives to the companies for exploration and development, and also an opening of the rules to allow greater competition between the companies.

And in Alaska’s constitution (Article VIII) - the state (the “citizens”) own the mineral rights. In one interview awhile ago she said something like “Yes, ANWR is Federal land. But that is why we are trying to get congress to open up a fraction of it so we can get to the oil that is the citizens’ of Alaska.”

With regards to the biggest taker of earmarks, I believe on a per capita basis that is true.

Of course it costs way more to put in a road between two towns in Alaska than it does to put in a new road in the Lower 48. And that new road is in a state with a VERY small population. (And that road probably crosses Federal Land - 220,000,000 acres of Alaska is Federal land, almost the size of the entire state of Texas.


149 posted on 09/08/2008 10:18:43 AM PDT by 21twelve (Don't wish for peace. Pray for Victory.)
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To: Crystal Cove

You did mean to say per capita, didn’t you?


150 posted on 09/08/2008 10:21:02 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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