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Obama: ‘I’m Not Going to Take Your Guns Away’
Wall Street Journal ^ | September 5, 2008 | Christopher Cooper

Posted on 09/05/2008 2:32:16 PM PDT by neverdem

The Obama campaign talks a lot about new ideas and expanding the political map, but in the swing state of Pennsylvania, which the campaign has focused on almost exclusively since the Democratic convention, old-school issues still rise to the fore.

The latest example came Friday during a small political event at SCHOTT North America Inc., a glass factory in Duryea, Pa., where even a hand-picked crowd threw Barack Obama a curve ball.

A woman in the crowd told Obama she had “heard a rumor” that he might be planning some sort of gun ban upon being elected president. Obama trotted out his standard policy stance, that he had a deep respect for the “traditions of gun ownership” but favored measures in big cities to keep guns out of the hands of “gang bangers and drug dealers’’ in big cities “who already have them and are shooting people.”

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1 posted on 09/05/2008 2:32:16 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Damn straight, stringbean.


2 posted on 09/05/2008 2:34:11 PM PDT by gundog (John McCain is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life.)
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To: neverdem

He will redefine “big city” to any city over 2 people.


3 posted on 09/05/2008 2:34:46 PM PDT by smith288 (Maverick - Barracuda 08!)
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To: neverdem
"Even if I want to take them away, I don’t have the votes in Congress" There's a sales point...what a dope.
4 posted on 09/05/2008 2:34:59 PM PDT by ajwharton
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To: neverdem

Obama lies about everything, just as Reverend Wright predicted he would, “saying what he has to to get elected.” He has an extensive record of hostility to Second Amendment rights and will sign every gun-grabbing bill delivered to his desk by the leftwing Democrats running Congress.

The McCain campaign and the NRA need to publicize these facts as broadly as possible.


5 posted on 09/05/2008 2:35:39 PM PDT by Argus (Obama: All turban and no goats.)
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To: neverdem

Of course not, he’s going to send out his people to do it. He’s not stupid.


6 posted on 09/05/2008 2:36:17 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: neverdem
favored measures in big cities to keep guns out of the hands of “gang bangers and drug dealers’’ in big cities “who already have them and are shooting people.”

Translation: any firearm less than 4 feet long, caliber greater than .30, or fires more than one shot without reloading.

7 posted on 09/05/2008 2:36:56 PM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.)
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To: neverdem

How about the bullets?


8 posted on 09/05/2008 2:37:27 PM PDT by skr (I serve a risen Savior!)
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To: neverdem
...favored measures in big cities to keep guns out of the hands of “gang bangers and drug dealers’’ in big cities “who already have them and are shooting people.”

How do you keep guns out of the hands of people who already have them?
9 posted on 09/05/2008 2:37:58 PM PDT by rom (Cold on McCain '08. Enthusiastic about McCain-Palin '08!)
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To: neverdem

I’m not going to take your guns away. I have underlings that will do that for me.

Now pay your taxes and have a nice day.

-BO


10 posted on 09/05/2008 2:38:14 PM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Obama for President!)
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To: ajwharton

ONZ, he really did say that! What a clutz!


11 posted on 09/05/2008 2:38:18 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Sarah Palin: Mrs. Smith & Wesson goes to Washington.)
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To: neverdem

Whenever a politicians say, “I am not going to do X to you.”, complete his thought by stating, “NOT!” The fact that he brought up this issue without any external stimulus means that he must actually be planning on doing EXACTLY what he says he is not going to do.


12 posted on 09/05/2008 2:38:25 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel
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To: neverdem
He did say in his interview with Larry King that he wants to appoint more judges like "Breyer, Ginsberg, and Souter," three of the justices who voted in favor of the DC gun ban.... which means.... Obama wants to appoint judges who don't think you should have the right to keep a pistol in your own home.

So yeah, maybe Obama himself won't take our guns away, but he'll appoint judges who will.

13 posted on 09/05/2008 2:39:00 PM PDT by squidly
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To: neverdem

...I will however take away your religion... You guys are so bitter...


14 posted on 09/05/2008 2:39:16 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: neverdem

Translation: I’m going to try my hardest to take your guns away.


15 posted on 09/05/2008 2:39:22 PM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: neverdem

“...gang-bangers and drug dealers’’ ...who already have them and are shooting people.”

Just how exactly does a gun ban work on felons who already possess them illegally? Someone help me understand.


16 posted on 09/05/2008 2:39:22 PM PDT by downtownconservative (Intelligence sans reason is vainglorious pulp)
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To: gundog

First true thing he’s said in quite a while.


17 posted on 09/05/2008 2:39:28 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: neverdem
Keeping guns away from criminals?? Hmmmmm Now, that's a new idea....a real change....not

And, Mr. Obama....What about this Civilian Army?? We're the Civilian Army!!!.... And what symbol will you use to distinguish them from a policeman?

He still doesn't get it.

18 posted on 09/05/2008 2:40:06 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (I'm planting corn...Have to feed my car...)
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To: ajwharton
"Even if I want to take them away, I don’t have the votes in Congress."

Now there's a convincing argument, Barry. And I suppose you'll also respect us in the morning...

19 posted on 09/05/2008 2:40:09 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves.)
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To: Argus

The NRA has already earmarked a chunk of money to go after Obama. The lifetime member Palin on the ticket now they’ll likely earmark more.


20 posted on 09/05/2008 2:40:22 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: ajwharton
No votes ?
I'm faintly assured.
21 posted on 09/05/2008 2:40:33 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: smith288

Yeah. I don’t get these big city folk. Why don’t they want guns to defend themselves from all the criminals who live there?


22 posted on 09/05/2008 2:40:43 PM PDT by sarasota
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To: Born Conservative; airborne; smoothsailing; Dr. Scarpetta; martin_fierro; Coop; Tribune7; ...
BANG! A hand picked crowd?
23 posted on 09/05/2008 2:40:50 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: gundog
Damn straight, stringbean.

YEP. Damn Straight!

24 posted on 09/05/2008 2:41:04 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: neverdem

woman in the crowd told Obama she had “heard a rumor” that he might be planning some sort of gun ban upon being elected president. Obama trotted out his standard policy stance, that he had a deep respect for the “traditions of gun ownership” but favored measures in big cities to keep guns out of the hands of “gang bangers and drug dealers’’ in big cities “who already have them and are shooting people.”

So according to obama the United States Constitution was designed to be operated and used differently in the Cities from the countryside and from Montana and New York? Funny I never saw those sections when ever I read the US Constitution.
Never believe this zero. As with all socialist he will remove as many guns from the people as he can get away with. Its what they do.


25 posted on 09/05/2008 2:41:06 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA ( Choice 2008 McCain =Hero, Obama = Zero. Palin = Fresh - Biden = Stale)
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To: neverdem

Well ok that seems reasonable to me. /s


27 posted on 09/05/2008 2:41:45 PM PDT by rrrod
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To: neverdem

So what measures might The One enact to keep guns out of the hands of gang bangers and dope dealers who ALREADY HAVE THEM?
What a dope.


28 posted on 09/05/2008 2:41:45 PM PDT by printhead
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To: gundog

My thoughts exactly, when I saw the title.


29 posted on 09/05/2008 2:41:48 PM PDT by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF*GOA*SAS*CCRKBA)
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To: neverdem
Technically true. He won't. But his appointees and supporters will through gun laws at the local, state, and Federal levels.
30 posted on 09/05/2008 2:42:04 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: neverdem
Obama: ‘I’m Not Going to Take Your Guns Away’

Actually...I wasn't too worried about that, Barry.
31 posted on 09/05/2008 2:42:51 PM PDT by ZX12R
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To: neverdem
Obama: ‘I’m Not Going to Take Your Guns Away’

Bet your sweet ass you're not!

32 posted on 09/05/2008 2:43:33 PM PDT by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: ZX12R

Good one. He is beyond clueless but that’s what happens when you’re raised by Rev. Wright and the Chicago political machine.


33 posted on 09/05/2008 2:43:39 PM PDT by sarasota
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To: neverdem

“I’m not going to LEGALLY take away your guns.’’

There, now he’s telling the truth. And frankly, few gun bills actually take guns away; they just make it more of a headache to own them, which is still illegal.


34 posted on 09/05/2008 2:45:29 PM PDT by RWB Patriot
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To: neverdem

They will trust him even less after those words.


35 posted on 09/05/2008 2:45:31 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: neverdem

‘I’m Not Going to Take Your Guns Away’...

...because I’ll order the BATFE and National Guard to do it - sheesh, what’dya think, that I’d get my hands dirty doing anything? Oh, and in addition, I promise that I’ll do everything humanly possible to regulate, restrict, increase the cost and inconvenience of, and limit transportation of all guns, ammo, ammo components and magazines. And no more imports. Yeah, that’s the ticket.

Molon Labe!!! Come and get them! http://moviesonline.ca/TheFeed/index.php?id=300-laydownyourweapons


36 posted on 09/05/2008 2:45:35 PM PDT by Ancesthntr (An ex-citizen of the Frederation dedicated to stopping the Obomination from becoming President)
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To: neverdem

He will have someone else do it.


37 posted on 09/05/2008 2:46:14 PM PDT by boomop1
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To: neverdem
‘I’m Not Going to Take Your Guns Away’

If Hussein had had time to think about it, or rather if his people had thought about it before this comment was delivered someone would have realized that this negative formulation would not allay concerns and might just raise the angst quotient a tad.

38 posted on 09/05/2008 2:47:21 PM PDT by arthurus (Old age and guile beats youth and enthusiasm.)
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To: neverdem

Blah, blah, blah. Liar.


39 posted on 09/05/2008 2:47:29 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: nickcarraway

‘I’m not going to take your guns away’...thus sayeth the Lord.


40 posted on 09/05/2008 2:47:33 PM PDT by dogcaller
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To: neverdem

Those communists always say “we won’t take them away. We’ll just apply ‘sensible’ regulations, which effectively takes them away.”


41 posted on 09/05/2008 2:48:30 PM PDT by CodeToad
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To: neverdem

I am starting to think he is going to turn out to be a bigger fizzle than that comet Kohoutek way back when.


42 posted on 09/05/2008 2:49:26 PM PDT by Puddleglum
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To: Sacajaweau
He still doesn't get it.

No, he get's it, alright. It is you who don't: that man will say or do ANYTHING to obtain power, and once he obtains it, he'll do ANYTHING to preserve or increase it...starting with degrading the power of the people to forcibly resist the tyrannical dictates that he plans to shove down our throats. He DOES get it - if we have guns, he can't do everything he wants.

43 posted on 09/05/2008 2:49:31 PM PDT by Ancesthntr (An ex-citizen of the Frederation dedicated to stopping the Obomination from becoming President)
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To: neverdem

Posted by: fatherofive // 3 hours ago // viewed 35 times
Columbus, Ohio // embed media
Last updated: 3 hours ago
Here is a big problem with Barack Obama; he knowingly associates with terrorists, radical pastors, and those being investigated for felony financial crimes.

First there is William Ayers who Obama served with and did speaches with between 1999 - 2002. In 2001 (on Sept. 11, 2001 to be exact) the New York Times printed and interview with Ayers on his days as a Weather Underground leader. In the interview Ayers states he does not regret bombing police stations, the capitol, and the pentagon and that he would not rule out doing it all again. Yet Obama never denounces him and the group he is a paid leader for gives money to Ayer’s wife’s orginization.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F02E1DE1438F932A2575AC0A9679C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=print
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ52cE1OwH8&feature=related
Then there is having a man like Rev. Wright as your mentor and naming him to your campaign. He did a 30 minute speech supporting him and refusing to denounce him; until.... his polls took a hit. Then and only then did he distance himself from the radical preacher. The man is a nutcase and Obama only seperated himself from him to save his campaign. He says our government gives the black man the drugs, our government invented HIV to eradicate blacks, etc. Nutcase.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M-kD0QdRJk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=617eK2XIaLk
Then there is Rezko, the Syrian born scum lord and felon who helped Obama buy property in Chicago. Obama accepted this even though there was multiple stories in Illinois about the investigations into Rezko. Obama later called it a boneheaded mistake. Yes it was, like many others.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4873045
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SrtyFY6qTA
And then there is the fact that his childhood mentor was a known member of the communist party of the united states, a fact Obama now admits.
http://www.aim.org/press-release/obama-confirms-relationship-with-red-mentor/
Any single man with this many associations with people of such terrible backgrounds a serious problem is who he surrounds himself with. That is a major stumbling block for him to overcome.
http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-78292


44 posted on 09/05/2008 2:49:43 PM PDT by OPS4 (Ops4 God Bless America!)
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To: neverdem

45 posted on 09/05/2008 2:49:57 PM PDT by GalaxieFiveHundred
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To: neverdem
He was only talking to P. Diddy.
46 posted on 09/05/2008 2:50:02 PM PDT by tobyhill (fraud -noun;(1)deceit, trickery, sharp practice, or breach of confidence, (2) Obama)
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To: neverdem
So he tried again. “Even if I want to take them away, I don’t have the votes in Congress,’’

What a dumbass statement which turns out to be a warning to every gun owner in this country! With him behind the wheel, the entire democrat congress and senate would be orgasmic in their opportunity to enact overwhelming and comprehensive gun control laws and bans........

47 posted on 09/05/2008 2:50:27 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Wedgie Syndrome: The inability to recognize humor by individuals alwayls looking for an argument)
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To: rom
How do you keep guns out of the hands of people who already have them?

I think he proposes to cut off their hands--- some kind of muslim deal.

48 posted on 09/05/2008 2:50:40 PM PDT by San Jacinto
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To: neverdem
From the comments on the original article:

Of course he won’t. It would be kind of hard to since we’re all “clinging” to them.

49 posted on 09/05/2008 2:51:23 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: neverdem

He’ll just limit ammunition through serial numbers, or give control of ammo to the EPA or make it a health problem and turn the problem over to the Surgeon General. No reason to go to Congress, just make some rules at the administrative level and enforce them.

This guy is lying through his teeth.

And by the way, it sounds as if the wheels are starting to come off the old campaign. Even the handpicked participants are beginning to rebel.


50 posted on 09/05/2008 2:51:34 PM PDT by TexanToTheCore (If it ain't Rugby or Bullriding, it's for girls.........................................)
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