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U.S. seizes Fannie and Freddie
CNN ^ | 9/7/2008 | David Ellis

Posted on 09/07/2008 9:02:41 AM PDT by CodeToad

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Federal officials unveiled an extraordinary takeover on Sunday of troubled mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, signaling the most dramatic move to date aimed at shoring up the nation's housing market.

(Excerpt) Read more at money.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: fanniemae; freddiemac; govwatch; housingbubble; lp; mortgage; rino
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To: Doe Eyes

Telling the truth will get you in hot water with some here, you see the issue is more important than the facts.


21 posted on 09/07/2008 9:33:10 AM PDT by org.whodat (Republicans should support the SAM Walton business model, and then drill???)
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To: aimhigh

It should be noted that you have not answered post #16.


22 posted on 09/07/2008 9:35:46 AM PDT by org.whodat (Republicans should support the SAM Walton business model, and then drill???)
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To: CodeToad

Now I wonder if the markets knew this was coming and have already compensated for it, or will we see a nasty crash this week.


23 posted on 09/07/2008 9:38:03 AM PDT by FlyVet
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To: CodeToad

As a banker, I can tell you there is going to be more devastation in the banking industry in the months ahead. This crisis is far from over. Expect a few big names to diasppear.


24 posted on 09/07/2008 9:42:04 AM PDT by Humvee (Beliefs are more powerful than facts - Paulus Atreides)
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To: CodeToad

Waiting for Feds to take over my credit card balance.....


25 posted on 09/07/2008 9:45:15 AM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: Humvee

I am wondering if the feds put a crimp on loans then who can buy another home or sell thiers if people need 20% down with good credit and 30% down with marginal credit? Will the banks simply have to play loose with the numbers, such as take a $400k home and put it on paper as a $500 home to show a 20% down? Will the home market simply grind to a halt as the feds demand liquidity in the market, meaning more cash, which people do not have?


26 posted on 09/07/2008 10:01:49 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: FlyVet

It was reported that the news was to be before the Asian markets open, so watch those today as an indicator of the US market reaction.


27 posted on 09/07/2008 10:02:55 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: CodeToad

The brief summary (as I and some others see it)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJfUNWthglI

On the front page of the prospectuses for this debt, at the top, in big black capital letters, as has been the case for many, many years:

“THE CERTIFICATES AND PAYMENTS OF PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST ON THE CERTIFICATES ARE NOT GUARANTEED BY THE UNITED STATES AND DO NOT CONSTITUTE A DEBT OR OBLIGATION OF THE UNITED STATES OR ANY OF ITS INSTRUMENTALITIES OTHER THAN FANNIE MAE”

But worldwide, wise, experienced, savvy financial gurus apparently misread that and somehow deleted the word “NOT” in its’ two appearances.

Ladies and gentlemen, you and I and every taxpayer in the nation are now going to make these bankers and funds whole for their third-grade reading error. Let’s hope we get free toasters out of it. We are witnessing the single biggest step towards economic and financial socialism this country has ever taken. I’ve read the comments about whom is to blame for this travesty, but frankly, it doesn’t matter. I leave it up to all who may read this to ponder the consequences for themselves.


28 posted on 09/07/2008 10:10:30 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Congrasites = Congressional parasites.)
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To: TomasUSMC
Waiting for Feds to take over my credit card balance.....

I'm waiting for the people to take over the feds!

29 posted on 09/07/2008 10:12:35 AM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: CodeToad; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; ...

What does this mean?


30 posted on 09/07/2008 10:15:47 AM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: CodeToad
Barack Hussein Obama had this comment:

Cheers!

31 posted on 09/07/2008 10:17:02 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: unixfox

Ah..Shoot ! Watsa nudder 10% piled on???????? 5 Billion more won’t make no diff....


32 posted on 09/07/2008 10:17:22 AM PDT by litehaus (A memory tooooo long)
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To: Toddsterpatriot; SAJ

Like, *PING*, dudes.


33 posted on 09/07/2008 10:17:46 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: narses

It means the debt of the federal government just went up. By how much will be determined by how many loans go bust. It will no doubt be in the billions.

I believe it also means people holding stock in either corporation just lost their money, all of it.

It means tightened credit requirements...and possibly such a squeeze as to kill the housing market as banks fail to completely understand the requirements and loans are denied.


34 posted on 09/07/2008 10:30:20 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: narses

It means the taxpayer is going to bail out poor business practices.


35 posted on 09/07/2008 10:31:02 AM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: CodeToad
Will the banks simply have to play loose with the numbers, such as take a $400k home and put it on paper as a $500 home to show a 20% down?

Any banker who gets caught making a 100% loan should have a free ticket to five years in the big house. Any appraiser that makes a false appraisal should share his room.

36 posted on 09/07/2008 10:35:25 AM PDT by org.whodat (Republicans should support the SAM Walton business model, and then drill???)
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To: narses

It means alot of different things, but basically, we’re screwed!

For one example from the article: “Similarly, conservatorship does not eliminate the outstanding preferred stock, but does place preferred shareholders second, after the common shareholders, in absorbing losses. The federal banking agencies are assessing the exposures of banks and thrifts to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. The agencies believe that, while many institutions hold common or preferred shares of these two GSEs, only a limited number of smaller institutions have holdings that are significant compared to their capital.”

Sounds reasonable, and it is. The trouble is that many banks have their required reserves IN Fannie and Freddie “preferred stocks.” So, more banks will need to raise capital to replace the losses. Some banks will fail because of this. I have no idea how many. So, ultimately it means that the bank implosion continues.


37 posted on 09/07/2008 10:40:15 AM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publici scholae)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Good video. Well presented. He makes a great point that this effectively doubles the federal credit trade and forces home prices down significantly. He also points out that on Monday F/F will only take loans with at least 20% down on the loan.


38 posted on 09/07/2008 10:43:42 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: aimhigh

Coming from a banking perspective, what caused the subprime market was affirmative action. The gov’t forced banks to loan to low-income minorities to meet the requirements of the Community Reinvestment Act. Stupid gov’t.


39 posted on 09/07/2008 10:54:46 AM PDT by RedBloodedTexan
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To: navyguy
From David Frum on the demise of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac

From 1991 to 1998, Fannie Mae was headed by James Johnson, a longtime aide to former Democratic vice president Walter Mondale. Johnson’s successor, Franklin Raines, had served as budget director to Bill Clinton. Jamie Gorelick, vice chair of Fannie Mae from 1998 to 2003, served as deputy attorney general in the Clinton administration.

40 posted on 09/07/2008 10:56:49 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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