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What has happened to my father's Democrats?

Posted on 09/09/2008 7:15:57 PM PDT by coolbreeze

My father was a Democrat.He worked through the depression(yes,there was work),he went to Harvard,(hauled radiators up and down the dorm stairs for three months,he was a pipe fitter and he hated those snot nosed rich bastids with a passion)he went to war in the South Pacific,came home and started a family.Normal guy...he died in 1984,and I still miss him ...my father would not recognize the modern Democratic Party, let alone vote for any of them. the Democratic Party today is built on the rotting foundation of the Vietnam War protest movement and the Gay Rights Movement,the "Wymyns" movement,and every other "movement" of the so called "oppressed".I do not think that Harry Truman or JFK could even poll 5% in a Democratic Primary today.I. like Zell Miller was "born" a Democrat, but I didn't leave the party, it left me.


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1 posted on 09/09/2008 7:15:57 PM PDT by coolbreeze
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To: coolbreeze

They’re aa’ deid! (Part of old Scots proverb.)


2 posted on 09/09/2008 7:17:56 PM PDT by sionnsar (Obama?Bye-den!|Iran Azadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY)| The New WSJ Magazine is disgusting)
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To: coolbreeze

The only movement the current Dem party looks like is a bowel movement.


3 posted on 09/09/2008 7:19:43 PM PDT by Laptop_Ron (McCain / Palin '08)
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To: coolbreeze

Recreational drugs and “Girls Gone Wild” videos.


4 posted on 09/09/2008 7:20:50 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (McCain/Palin '08! Real change you won't have to "believe in." You'll be able to see it!!!)
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To: sionnsar

Wha’s like us damn few an ther’ awe deid.


5 posted on 09/09/2008 7:22:30 PM PDT by Milly (Cradle to Grave Catholic)
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To: coolbreeze

When LBJ signed away the South with Great Society, he also signed on black voters. The party of Truman became more like the party of Malcolm X.


6 posted on 09/09/2008 7:22:41 PM PDT by DiogenesLaertius (Lets Act like True Conservatives Here)
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To: coolbreeze

My dad too was a Democrat. His brothers were too.
Now all of their children are Republicans.
My mom a couple years ago finally changed her registration to Republican. She sent in the change and when she got it back
she was still registered Democrat. We had to go to the
Courthouse to straighten it out.
The Democrat Party has changed immensely. Now its become the party of potty politics.


7 posted on 09/09/2008 7:24:35 PM PDT by donnab (some people use change to promote their careers...others use their careers to promote change.)
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To: coolbreeze
I absolutely agree with the sentiment, "I like Zell Miller was 'born' a Democrat, but I didn't leave the party, it left me." I grew up in Maryland and when I first registered to vote, it was as a Democrat, like my parents and grandparents before me. But I was drawn to the Conservative side by the wonderful, inspirational Ronald Reagan.

I know many moral, hardworking, old fashioned Democrats. If we can use this chance we have been given to show them the light of truth our side represents as opposed to what a vile and despicable party the Democrats have become, we can really witness a political reformation with this election.

8 posted on 09/09/2008 7:24:53 PM PDT by Heartland Mom (The Presidency is not an entry-level position.)
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To: coolbreeze
It was infiltrated and hijacked by Communists in the early 1970s.

I know how you feel. I grew up in a coal mining New Deal Democratic family in Virginia. My granddaddy worshipped FDR, and my dad still waxes sentimental about Truman, but not so much about JFK (he can't stand the Kennedys and their snobbery).

I was too was a registered Democrat, yet Conservative like Zell, until it finally dawned on me during the Clinton years that the Democrat Party had been completely subsumed by socialists and outright Communists. I quit the Democrat Party and joined the Republican Party, just in time for the 2000 primaries and election, and have never looked back. My dad is still a Democrat and has never been able to accept the fact that I moved on. Needless to say, we can never discuss politics without getting into a bitter argument. Sad.

9 posted on 09/09/2008 7:25:38 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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To: Laptop_Ron

I see what they mean. People who feel they are part of an oppressed minority group, or who feel a need to go on a crusade to fix society in some way, tend to be Democrats. On subjects such as gay rights, women’s abortion rights, Al Gore and global warming, the vast majority of people involved are Democrats. (Except for those who are too far left for even the Democrat party).

It’s easy to generalize, but Democrats tend to be people with some sort of grievance against the mainstream society. Democrats tend to be idealistic about whatever crusade they are on. Democrats tend to pursue their crusades with a religious zeal, while generally not being religious themselves, regarding traditional religion. Democrats tend to focus on abstract things like global warming, and warn us that the survival of the planet is at stake. Yet those same people don’t recognize the obvious threats to civilization as we know it from terrorism or evil dictators around the world.

It’s easy to generalize, but by contrast, the Republican party tends to be made up of people who are just living their lives, and their lives tend to be centered around settled family life. The Democrats on their crusades about this or that subject don’t have the time or the inclination to be involved with family life.


10 posted on 09/09/2008 7:26:49 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: coolbreeze

I agree with you for the most part, but I’d point out that the dem party may be growing, not shrinking. The moderates, the blue dogs and others may feel the party has changed, but seem to be ok with the new ownership (far left whacko’s).


11 posted on 09/09/2008 7:27:22 PM PDT by umgud
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To: coolbreeze
What has happened to my father's Democrats?

You answered your own question.

...the Democratic Party today is built on the rotting foundation of the Vietnam War protest movement and the Gay Rights Movement,the "Wymyns" movement,and every other "movement" of the so called "oppressed".

Your father's Democrat party was buried in 1968. Today's Democrat party was born in 1972.

By the same token, your father's Republican party died in 1964. And today's Republican party was born in 1980.

12 posted on 09/09/2008 7:27:28 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: coolbreeze
It is called 1968.

One of my professors who I had a great deal of respect for was
a Humphrey Democrat and the advisor to the college Democrats.
I took a class from him in 1968 and we had some great discussions. I was active in college Republicans but considered him a mentor. We did not agree on much but he sure forced me to develop my thoughts more clearly. He nominated me to attend a semester in Washington D.C. which I will always be grateful (it was a good semester)
Oh and he was forced out as the advisor to the College Democrats by the McCarthites.

13 posted on 09/09/2008 7:28:54 PM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: coolbreeze

bookmark


14 posted on 09/09/2008 7:28:59 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: coolbreeze

They have become a coalition of anti-truth, anti-freedom, anti-individual, anti-life collectives.


15 posted on 09/09/2008 7:30:26 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: coolbreeze

Those old-timers are gone. Many of their Children have “evolved” into new-age Democrats. Concern for the working man has morphed into “social justice” and civil rights has evolved into rights for every minority and class that can name itself.

On the other hand, i don’t know how Democrats traditional respect for America changed 180 degrees to now hold so many Anti-American members.


16 posted on 09/09/2008 7:30:38 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: Heartland Mom

Ronald Reagan was also my epiphany.


17 posted on 09/09/2008 7:31:28 PM PDT by coolbreeze (giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teen-age boys.)
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To: Laptop_Ron

“The only movement the current Dem party looks like is a bowel movement.”

Good for you Ron. Had you NOT said that, it’s exactly what I was going to post.


18 posted on 09/09/2008 7:32:24 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, Call 'em what you will, they ALL have Fairies livin' in their Trees.)
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To: coolbreeze
The party of Death and Dependence.
19 posted on 09/09/2008 7:32:40 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: coolbreeze

Democratic Party the party of Death, Dependence, and Drag


20 posted on 09/09/2008 7:33:50 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: coolbreeze

The good things about some of the Democrat leadership in years past...Harry Truman’s drive to defeat our enemies and stand with our friends...Jack Kennedy’s desire to cut taxes...Scoop Jackson’s understanding of the need for a strong defense....those are completely driven out of the Democrat party today.

They’re pretty much power hungry socialists now. Nancy Pelosi is Hugo Chavez in a dress.


21 posted on 09/09/2008 7:35:30 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (Just say NObama!)
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To: coolbreeze

The folks over at http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=28812&page=4 are having a fit over the pig comment. Notice the last line in this post from someone called ssmith:

I don’t even know what to say anymore..

I called all my girlfriends to see if they got the same reaction as me.. and yep! they sure did..

BO is one arrogant chauvinistic sexist SOB!

He seems to hate women.. he hated hillary, gave her the finger....sexist jokes.. of course, no one noticed.. now he has moved on to Palin

I say this as a clinton dem, now an indy.. I HOPE the GOP RIP HIM APART!

this is 2008, for a presidential candidate to call a female VP a “pig”, why not go further.. call her a “******* wh*re”, “cu*t”, he did the same thing to hillary.

I feel dirty for even ever calling myself a democrat.. that is now a filthy word to me...


22 posted on 09/09/2008 7:35:40 PM PDT by Lucas McCain (No relation to John McCain)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

I totally understand...my dad got his head beat in trying to create a union, and at the end of his life had nothing but disdain for the unions and the thugs that had taken them over. My mom on the other hand, was a Socialist til the day she died.


23 posted on 09/09/2008 7:36:34 PM PDT by coolbreeze (giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teen-age boys.)
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To: coolbreeze
My dad was an FDR Democrat having lived through the depression and served in the Army during WWII. He was very active in the Democratic party and on election day drove registered Democrats who could not drive to the voting machines.

He was approached once about running for the House. After thinking about it overnight he replied that he was not a crook and would not consider running.

Through the Vietnam War his support of the Democratic party lessened and after the Carter fiasco he left the Democrats never to return.

If he was alive and able I believe that seeing what the Democrats have lowered themselves to; he would drive Republicans and Conservatives to the polls. I do miss the many discussions about history and politics that we had.

24 posted on 09/09/2008 7:37:24 PM PDT by richiep (Richie)
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To: coolbreeze

I know what you are talkin’ about!

My mother left my father when I was 18 months old because he beat her up to prove his manhood!

I was raised by my mother who did the best she could.

When I grew old enough to start meeting young females, I met my father-in-law....Staunch union Dem, WWII vet, Hard working family man, and extremely pro gun.

To this day, my wife and I wonder how he would feel knowing what the Democrat Party has turned into!

We know the answer, but are really glad that he passed away in time to miss all of this....


25 posted on 09/09/2008 7:39:35 PM PDT by Randy Larsen ( BTW, If I offend you! Please let me know, I may want to offend you again!)
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To: Heartland Mom
Any chance you would ever consider taking on your own party in the fight?
Because I am sick of “Democrats” becoming RINO’s because of their innate cowardice.
Am I supposed to welcome your “contribution of dilution”?
It would be honorable for disaffected Democrats to become Independents,but that would go against Democrat ideology, wouldn't it?
26 posted on 09/09/2008 7:39:50 PM PDT by sarasmom ( My employment agreement states I am not required to travel north of I10)
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To: coolbreeze

There are still too many brand loyal knee jerk “ My family has always been democrats” dopes around .Drives ya goofy.They are against all the PC etc grappolla but vote for the party that caused it


27 posted on 09/09/2008 7:39:54 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: coolbreeze

Yup. My Dad was an FDR Democrat. He also fought in the Pacific in WW2. He passed in 2003, so he lived to see Clinton disgrace himself.


28 posted on 09/09/2008 7:43:09 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert
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To: coolbreeze
My mom on the other hand, was a Socialist til the day she died.

Yes, she was. However, much to her credit she raised 3 productive members of society. Her political beliefs may have been socialistic in nature, but she expected her children to make their own way. She succeeded, because you all do and her grandchildren are doing the same, well expect for the youngest one :)

29 posted on 09/09/2008 7:43:43 PM PDT by Gabz
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To: coolbreeze

I’ve asked the same question. Democrats used to be for the working class, but it has been hijacked by liberalism. Plain and simple.


30 posted on 09/09/2008 7:47:08 PM PDT by autumnraine (McCain/Palin 08)
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To: umgud
I’d point out that the dem party may be growing, not shrinking.

They have taken control of the education budgets and the schools through the teachers unions and turned our public schools into indoctrination centers.

Young people today graduate knowing very little American history and have their minds stuffed full of liberal claptrap.

If sensible people do not somehow regain control of the schools the ultra-left radicals will eventually win the war through sheer numbers.

31 posted on 09/09/2008 7:51:56 PM PDT by Iron Munro (The Alaskan landscape is littered with the bodies of those who have crossed Sarah Palin)
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To: Randy Larsen; coolbreeze

WOW - what an awesome post.

I do believe my FIL and your FIL would both have the same reaction.

I envy you having known you FIL, I never got to meet coolbreeze’s dad. I really wish I had.


32 posted on 09/09/2008 7:52:44 PM PDT by Gabz
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To: coolbreeze

My parents, grandparents, and great grandparents were ALL Democrats. The Democrat Party has gone waaaaaaay over to the Dark Side! My children are ALL Republicans—I am VERY proud to say!


33 posted on 09/09/2008 7:54:47 PM PDT by Savage Beast (The ruling Chinese oligarchy is the envy of the American Left.)
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To: Lucas McCain

REAL people terrify them...the same way the penthouse environmentalists will pontificate on hunting and wildlife, when the only animals they’re not afraid of are pigeons,rats and poodles.


34 posted on 09/09/2008 7:55:10 PM PDT by coolbreeze (giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teen-age boys.)
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To: Laptop_Ron

LOL, yeah, that about sums it up.


35 posted on 09/09/2008 7:55:22 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: coolbreeze

My father was also a WWII vet, and he died the same year yours did. He, too, was a Dem. I remember him saying, “The Democrats are for the working man.” I really, really doubt he’d vote Dem today, though.


36 posted on 09/09/2008 7:56:33 PM PDT by Nea Wood (Silly liberal . . . paychecks are for workers!)
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To: coolbreeze
It began chiefly in the ‘60’s, a generation away from WW2.

War has a way of focusing people's priorities. If another war comes, the idiocy of homosexuals and feminists and the Grievance Industry, etc, will vanish quickly.

37 posted on 09/09/2008 7:56:45 PM PDT by JoJo Gunn
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To: coolbreeze

It was pointed out that McCarthy lost parlt because his supporters did so much to upset the voting public. What wasn’t mentioned was that those, mostly young, supporters are now the party elite.


38 posted on 09/09/2008 7:58:54 PM PDT by SlapHappyPappy
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To: Lucas McCain

Sarah Palin won’t win over any of the committed feminists for whom abortion is everything. However, many of Hillary Clinton’s supporters this time were mostly non-political women who supported Clinton for other reasons, like workplace discrimination, for example. And those voters could go to McCain now.


39 posted on 09/09/2008 8:01:14 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (If Islam conquers the world, the Earth will be at peace because the human race will be killed off.)
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To: Iron Munro

I respectfully disagree with you. My duaghter is in 5th grade and attends public school. There is not teacher’s union in Virginia and she knows far more about VA and American history than I did about NY and American history when I was in school.

Her father is a history buff and a fanatic when it comes to historical facts, if there was a problem with the history she is being taught he would be the first one screaming foul. And I would be back to bending the superintendent’s ear on the phone and testifying at a school board meeting. I’ve done it before and am not afraid to do it again.


40 posted on 09/09/2008 8:02:24 PM PDT by Gabz
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Sadly, it’s the same when I visit my parents. I’m 52 and they are 82 and 83. They are lifelong dems as were my grandparents on both sides of the family. Being a democrat is almost genetic and inescapeable. But RWR convinced me in 1980 the right way was the right way, and I’ve never gone back. Needless to say, we don’t discuss politics anymore because the tension gets too high. They don’t understand why I switched, and I can’t figure out they’re still associated with such a slutty party. Other than that, we get along fine :)


41 posted on 09/09/2008 8:02:39 PM PDT by reaganbooster
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To: autumnraine

The working class has changed from Joe the factory worker to Joe the self-employed siding contractor(carpet cleaner,electrician,etc.)...the Dems still think it’s 1959....what self employed businessman/woman is going to vote for someone who is going to tax them out of business?


42 posted on 09/09/2008 8:04:20 PM PDT by coolbreeze (giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teen-age boys.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I think your rank-and-file democrats are well-meaning people (I mean the voters, not the partisan hacks). They get drawn in because the democrats say they ‘care’ and they want to ‘help people’. Who doesn’t want to help people?

The problem is that helping people is not the job of the federal government. Local community organizations help people. You could argue that the state governments help people.

That’s not what the federal government was created for, however, and it’s never been equiped to do it effectively or efficiently.

That’s what gets lost on your rank-and-file dems. IMO, of course.


43 posted on 09/09/2008 8:05:50 PM PDT by Laptop_Ron (McCain / Palin '08)
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To: Randy Larsen

It sounds like they were cut from the same cloth.


44 posted on 09/09/2008 8:06:50 PM PDT by coolbreeze (giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teen-age boys.)
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To: rockinqsranch

You know, I’m just surprised that I was able to say it first. Must be my lucky day. Perhaps I should buy a lottery ticket. :)

Sounds like we think alike on this. Should you be worried, or should I????


45 posted on 09/09/2008 8:07:18 PM PDT by Laptop_Ron (McCain / Palin '08)
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To: television is just wrong

Funny, but sad, isn’t it? lol


46 posted on 09/09/2008 8:07:56 PM PDT by Laptop_Ron (McCain / Palin '08)
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To: JoJo Gunn

I agree...survival dos make one focus, doesn’t it?


47 posted on 09/09/2008 8:09:40 PM PDT by coolbreeze (giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teen-age boys.)
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To: sarasmom
Any chance you would ever consider taking on your own party in the fight? Because I am sick of “Democrats” becoming RINO’s because of their innate cowardice. Am I supposed to welcome your “contribution of dilution”? It would be honorable for disaffected Democrats to become Independents,but that would go against Democrat ideology, wouldn't it?

Wow - I don't know where that judgmental rant came from. My point in my initial post was that I come from a Democrat background and when I was young I identified with that thought process, but that when I saw Ronald Reagan, it was as if a part of me awakened and as I because a Republican.

I am not a RINO, thank you. I am socially and fiscally conservative, so you needn't worry about me diluting the party. And as for innate cowardice? I think it takes more courage to change paths that diverge from your extended social network because you see things differently.

Have you never heard the famous observation that, "If a man is a Republican at 20, he has no heart and if he is a Democrat at 40, he has no brain." Well, I was a Democrat until I was 20 and I have been a Republican since then (I am now 44).

48 posted on 09/09/2008 8:10:53 PM PDT by Heartland Mom (The Presidency is not an entry-level position.)
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To: Gabz

Not so fast...

I voted for slick willie in 1992!
I didn’t know any better, and Bush Lied about “READ MY LIPS”.

My FIL died in 1993, but I wasn’t able to talk with him before his death.

That vote in 1992 has haunted me to this very day! And now I take ALL my votes very seriously. John McCain wasn’t going to get my vote until he named Sarah as his running mate!

Since then I’ve made a contribution of $50 to the McCain/Palin campaign...

More to follow when I have it.

My wife and I agre on one thing only!...

Sarah is OUR gal!


49 posted on 09/09/2008 8:19:03 PM PDT by Randy Larsen ( BTW, If I offend you! Please let me know, I may want to offend you again!)
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To: coolbreeze

Agreed!

To bad it effected so many of us down the line!

We will make it RIGHT! Hopefully...


50 posted on 09/09/2008 8:23:11 PM PDT by Randy Larsen ( BTW, If I offend you! Please let me know, I may want to offend you again!)
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