Skip to comments.We need to accept Sen. Obama's explanation of the 'lipstick/pig' insult this morning,,,,,
Posted on 09/10/2008 3:50:32 PM PDT by stockstrader
Some of us (especially me) owe Hussein an apology for attacking him on his lipstick/pigcomment.
As someone who was slamming Hussein for his use of the ugly potitics of personal destruction, Chicago-style, I have now reconsidered my comments of yesterday--after hearing Husseins indignant explanation this morning.
Husseins use of the gutter politics of personal attacks yesterday can be explained two ways:
(1) The first possibility, and the one that many of us reacted to--was that Hussein was stooping to a new, ugly personal attack, lowering himself to an unimaginably low-level--by comparing Gov. Palin to a pig. Initially, I was sure this was the case.
(2) The second explanation, however, is the one that Hussein used this morning. His comments made it clear that there was no malice intended (other than the normal vicious, personal attacks the democrats have been using on Republicans for years)and it was just 'a coincidence' or 'accident' that the joke could apply to Gov. Palin.
Now, I have heard the lipstick on a pig joke, many times in my life too. Its a very old joke, and I think its even been used by John McCain, Dick Cheney and many others. But the use of that joke was well before Gov. Palin made her comments (made only in the last couple weeks) tying her hockey mom status to lipstick.
Given the incredibly unbelievable public press and relentless comments in the MSM focusing on Gov. Palins lipstick commentsit is inconceivable that her lipstick comment could not have been heard by anyone not living in a phone booth (although I bet even someone in a phone booth has heard it). Her lipstick, 'schtick' (no pun intended), therefore, was known by everyone.
GIVEN THE FACT THAT GOV. PALIN IS NOW SO CLOSELY ASSOCIATED WITH THE TERM LIPSTICKand given her humorous tying of lipstick to hockey moms and pitbullsand her use of it as a visual prop in her political satirethe term lipstick in now inextricably associated with Gov. Palin.
Although Hussein's indignant denial, just DOES NOT PASS THE 'SNIFF TEST'I am willing to defer to him--and accept his explanation this morning.
In his explanation this morning, Hussein asks us to believe that he was not aware of a possible tie between lipstick and Gov. Palin, and asks us to believe that he is--
AND STUPID BEYOND ANYONES WILDEST DREAMS (to borrow a recent phrase of his, if I may) instead.
I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, and accept that explanation.
Well, o-k then. Based on that understanding.
I now think it is very possible that such a small minded man would consider making such a crude and sophomoric quip.
I believe it was done on purpose. But there is no way to prove so the McCain campaign should drop it,
It has been put out in the arena of ideas for people to judge.
Obama’s sin isn’t meaning. Its symbolism and timing.
Lipstick in the context of his opposition is Sarah Palin, plain and simple. Not recognizing that is to ignore the phenomenon sweeping the country right now, which may explain why his campaign has been off kilter since her introduction.
After Rick Lazio’s being pilloried by the left for sexism for daring to approach Hillary’s podium during the Senatorial debate, Hussein deserves everything he’s getting.
LOL!!! You got me for a while with that one!!!
OK. I accept that he’s not ready for prime time.
I'm in total agreement there. Where McCain should hit them is on the CLEAR plagiarism used for his attacks against McCain/Palin.
If you watch the video, you notice that Obama pauses, just prior to making that statement, and shields his eyes from the audience while he then says it.
That is a ‘tell’.
He knew what he was about to say, and what implication it would have with his audience.
I would bet money that his campaign staff spent days working on the ultimate line that they could have him deliver, using the word ‘lipstick’ and still have plausible deniability.
You are naughty!
It was ok for Obama to totally take out of context, John McCain's “hundred years in Iraq” comments,
but all of a sudden John McCain is a liar, when turnabout is done to Obama.
No whiners in the White House !
I saw that clip as well. He does love to play to his crowd and friends, doesn't he.
It doesn’t matter if he was comparing Palin to a pig. His campaign is falling apart and he allowed us to distract him all day over this issue. It shows an amateurish campaign. LBJ once told a campaign aid to accuse his opponent of being a child molester. His campaign aid told him his opponent was definitely not a child molester and Johnson replied, “I know he isn’t, I just want to hear him deny it.” We’ve had a whole day of Obama denying he called a woman a pig.
He was trying to provoke his audience by comparing Palin to a pig and worse an old fish. He succeeded in it, but completely misjudged how this would spread virally over the political landscape.
The McCain campaign needs to let it go though and let the fire rage at the grassroots.
Yeah, just like the wiseass gradeschool kid who considers himself the smartest guy in the room.
No. We do not!
I apologize for the grammatical errors in my last post. I’m just so infuriated by the arrogance of this man.
While I think if you asked Obama a couple of days ago if it was a good strategy to call Palin a pig I am sure he isnt that dumb. That said as soon as the crowd reacted the way they did he should have caught himself and stopped it right there. But not only did he deliver the end like a punch line, he continued to pull out the wrap the old fish comment. On those merits I dont see giving him a pass.
Just watching the morons behind the Messiah start laughing INSTANTLY as he said the ‘lipstick’ comment, just shows that the “Anointed One” knew EXACTLY what he was saying.
Believe me, they weren’t laughing at “Bush’s failed economics” or anything like that . . .
They and the Anointed Messiah Hussein Obama were making fun of an apparently very pleasant and intelligent woman. Ugly feminatzis and politicians who’ve sold their soul to the Devil for unlimited, four-trimester abortions can’t stand her.
May God guide her and keep her safe.
I am surprised that everyone had left off at the lipstick comment and ignored Obomber’s next breath about wrapping OLD fish in newspaper and how it still stinks.
He clearly was being provocative, but his mind-numb robots will argue otherwise.
My daughter found this appropriate movie clip from the 1940 movie “The Ghost Breakers”: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkzV5AIK8iM
0be is just showing that he will not be bringing a “new tone” anywhere and has been already coopted by the old Chicago Politics of stasis.
Like one man commented on OpiniPundit (your link), they did in George Allen for 1 word “macaca” when he was running. Obama’s body language says he knew what he was doing as he played to his supporters.
I'd like to read them. Got links? :)
There’s a screen capture of a Dem party web page floating around here dated Aug 30th that says you can put lipstick on a pig but it’s still a pig and it is specifically referring to Palin so the idea is out there in Dem circles. Sorry I don’t remember which post it was on but someone will be able to link it here I’m sure.
Followed with the wrap a fish and it still stinks comment obama made there was no mistake about what he meant.
obama thinks he is smarter then everyone in the room and he’s laughing his butt off at getting back at Gov Palin for her community organizer remark.
Now we know that where Gov Palin hit him with community organizer remark hurt him the most. And he came back low and dirty. So now we know who he is and how he fights.
Thank you. Apparently, many posted without reading the whole article....oh well. (s)
I forgot to add: Remember what Gov Palin’s nick name was... Barracuda!
obama meant every low blow and he thinks he came out on top. But now we’ve got his number.
You can put lipstick on B. Hussein but he’s still a Muslim.
GREAT POINT!! Good catch (no pun intended).
No one,,,and I mean NO ONE,,,has connected the 'dead rotting fish' comment with the fact that Sarah's nickname is 'Barracuda'.
As they would say on FOX,,,,
I agree that he knew what he was doing by making an “inference joke”. What I disagree with is how to respond to it. Sarah is an extremely tough lady and it is best for the McCain campaign to exhibit moderate indignation thus letting everyone know that they know Hussein’s a jerk and then show class by blowing it off as desperate rhetoric.
The lipstick reference, says it all. He tried to be slick by mentioning a phrase Republicans had used in the past but by the reaction the crowd gave him after the quote he knew and we knew what he meant. He un comedically delivered a nasty shot at Palin got the crowd reaction he antisapated, smiled, and acted like a little school boy who said a bad word.
He is a first class fool!
Can’t be the “Iron Lady” moose slayer and a victim at the same time.
Pretty simple really....Obama doesn’t in his heart think Palin is a pig, but he choose that comment specifically because of what Palin’s lipstick comment. He knew what he was doing. It’s time to let it go.
I have to tell you that I am incredibly worried about McCain's health at this point. McCain is an attack pilot [and no, attack pilots don't grow up]. Creating confusion and dissension in the ranks of the enemy (a tactic that is refined through practice on bureaucrats, martinets and superior officers before it is employed against the enemy) is part of the genetic makeup of an attack pilot. [No sane person lands A4's on the deck of a carrier either, but that is another story.]
I seriously doubt that the constitution of a 70 year old man can take rolling around on the floor laughing until he busts a gut ever since he dropped this pit bull in lipstick behind enemy lines. I am really worried and am saying my prayers that McCain can survive the impact of this joke of all jokes [no it isn't Palin that is the joke, it is the libs and their maximum leader, the chosen One]. When an effort to disrupt and confuse works out better than your fondest dreams and your enemy melts before your eyes like the whicked warlock of the East, it is hillaryous.