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We need to accept Sen. Obama's explanation of the 'lipstick/pig' insult this morning,,,,,

Posted on 09/10/2008 3:50:32 PM PDT by stockstrader

Some of us (especially me) owe Hussein an apology for attacking him on his ‘lipstick/pig’comment.

As someone who was slamming Hussein for his use of the ugly potitics of personal destruction, Chicago-style, I have now reconsidered my comments of yesterday--after hearing Hussein’s indignant explanation this morning.

Hussein’s use of the ‘gutter politics’ of personal attacks yesterday can be explained two ways:

(1) The first possibility, and the one that many of us reacted to--was that Hussein was stooping to a new, ugly personal attack, lowering himself to an unimaginably low-level--by comparing Gov. Palin to a pig. Initially, I was sure this was the case.

(2) The second explanation, however, is the one that Hussein used this morning. His comments made it clear that there was no malice intended (other than the normal vicious, personal attacks the democrats have been using on Republicans for years)—and it was just 'a coincidence' or 'accident' that the joke could apply to Gov. Palin.

Now, I have heard the ‘lipstick on a pig’ joke, many times in my life too. It’s a very old joke, and I think it’s even been used by John McCain, Dick Cheney and many others. But the use of that joke was well before Gov. Palin made her comments (made only in the last couple weeks) tying her hockey mom status to lipstick.

Given the incredibly unbelievable public press and relentless comments in the MSM focusing on Gov. Palin’s lipstick comments—it is inconceivable that her lipstick comment could not have been heard by anyone not living in a phone booth (although I bet even someone in a phone booth has heard it). Her lipstick, 'schtick' (no pun intended), therefore, was known by everyone.

GIVEN THE FACT THAT GOV. PALIN IS NOW SO CLOSELY ASSOCIATED WITH THE TERM ‘LIPSTICK’—and given her humorous tying of lipstick to hockey moms and pitbulls—and her use of it as a visual prop in her political satire—the term ‘lipstick’ in now inextricably associated with Gov. Palin.

Although Hussein's indignant denial, just DOES NOT PASS THE 'SNIFF TEST'—I am willing to defer to him--and accept his explanation this morning.

In his explanation this morning, Hussein asks us to believe that he was not aware of a possible tie between lipstick and Gov. Palin, and asks us to believe that he is--

TOTALLY CLUELESS,

COMPLETELY OUT-OF-TOUCH,

UNIMAGINABLY NAÏVE,

INCREDIBLY INSENSITIVE,

AND STUPID BEYOND ANYONE’S WILDEST DREAMS (to borrow a recent phrase of his, if I may) instead.

I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, and accept that explanation.


TOPICS: Political Humor/Cartoons; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: lipstick; pig
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1 posted on 09/10/2008 3:50:32 PM PDT by stockstrader
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To: stockstrader

Another take...

http://exposingtheleft.blogspot.com/2008/09/lipstick-on-pig.html


2 posted on 09/10/2008 3:52:44 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: traderrob6
Actually that comment just proves that Obama is not prepared to be president. There is no way he could defend America from her enemies if he cannot even tell the difference between a pit bull and a pig !
3 posted on 09/10/2008 3:54:53 PM PDT by LOC1
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To: stockstrader

LOL!

Well, o-k then. Based on that understanding.


4 posted on 09/10/2008 3:54:57 PM PDT by 2111USMC
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To: stockstrader
I accepted his explanation, too (even though I'm really enjoying the democrats squirm in a bed of their own making) then I saw the clip of Hussein making a derogatory reference to Hillary during the primaries & scratching his cheek with his middle finger while the crowd hooted.

I now think it is very possible that such a small minded man would consider making such a crude and sophomoric quip.

5 posted on 09/10/2008 3:55:29 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: stockstrader

I believe it was done on purpose. But there is no way to prove so the McCain campaign should drop it,
It has been put out in the arena of ideas for people to judge.


6 posted on 09/10/2008 3:56:24 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Help fight the left's anointed candidate, contribute and work for McCain/Palin..)
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To: stockstrader

Obama’s sin isn’t meaning. Its symbolism and timing.

Lipstick in the context of his opposition is Sarah Palin, plain and simple. Not recognizing that is to ignore the phenomenon sweeping the country right now, which may explain why his campaign has been off kilter since her introduction.


7 posted on 09/10/2008 3:56:33 PM PDT by Senator Goldwater
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To: stockstrader

After Rick Lazio’s being pilloried by the left for sexism for daring to approach Hillary’s podium during the Senatorial debate, Hussein deserves everything he’s getting.


8 posted on 09/10/2008 3:59:48 PM PDT by what's up
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To: stockstrader

LOL!!! You got me for a while with that one!!!


10 posted on 09/10/2008 4:01:06 PM PDT by StolarStorm
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To: stockstrader

OK. I accept that he’s not ready for prime time.


11 posted on 09/10/2008 4:02:29 PM PDT by airborne (Rudy is right! They would never treat a man like this!! DON'T MESS WITH A HOCKEY MOM!)
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To: HereInTheHeartland
"I believe it was done on purpose. But there is no way to prove so the McCain campaign should drop it"

I'm in total agreement there. Where McCain should hit them is on the CLEAR plagiarism used for his attacks against McCain/Palin.

SWINEGATE GENESIS & ANALYSIS: "Lipstick on a Pig" Template and Tom Toles Plagiarism

12 posted on 09/10/2008 4:03:51 PM PDT by KoRn (Barack Obama Must Be Stopped!!!)
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To: skeeter

If you watch the video, you notice that Obama pauses, just prior to making that statement, and shields his eyes from the audience while he then says it.

That is a ‘tell’.

He knew what he was about to say, and what implication it would have with his audience.

I would bet money that his campaign staff spent days working on the ultimate line that they could have him deliver, using the word ‘lipstick’ and still have plausible deniability.


13 posted on 09/10/2008 4:03:56 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: pipecorp

You are naughty!


14 posted on 09/10/2008 4:04:33 PM PDT by airborne (Rudy is right! They would never treat a man like this!! DON'T MESS WITH A HOCKEY MOM!)
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To: stockstrader
The problem here, is the hypocrosy.

It was ok for Obama to totally take out of context, John McCain's “hundred years in Iraq” comments,
but all of a sudden John McCain is a liar, when turnabout is done to Obama.

No whiners in the White House !

15 posted on 09/10/2008 4:04:34 PM PDT by stylin19a
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To: skeeter
I saw the clip of Hussein making a derogatory reference to Hillary during the primaries & scratching his cheek with his middle finger while the crowd hooted.

I saw that clip as well. He does love to play to his crowd and friends, doesn't he.

16 posted on 09/10/2008 4:05:00 PM PDT by JimSEA (just another liberal-bashing fearmonger)
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To: stockstrader

It doesn’t matter if he was comparing Palin to a pig. His campaign is falling apart and he allowed us to distract him all day over this issue. It shows an amateurish campaign. LBJ once told a campaign aid to accuse his opponent of being a child molester. His campaign aid told him his opponent was definitely not a child molester and Johnson replied, “I know he isn’t, I just want to hear him deny it.” We’ve had a whole day of Obama denying he called a woman a pig.


17 posted on 09/10/2008 4:05:30 PM PDT by yazoo
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To: traderrob6

He was trying to provoke his audience by comparing Palin to a pig and worse an old fish. He succeeded in it, but completely misjudged how this would spread virally over the political landscape.

The McCain campaign needs to let it go though and let the fire rage at the grassroots.


18 posted on 09/10/2008 4:06:41 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: stockstrader
I get it. Either he is totally clueless , wildly stupid, etc, and meant slip a little shiv in her,
or he is totally clueless , wildly stupid, etc, and didn't meant it.

Right. Either he is, or else, um, he is. If I have offended Obama, or anyone else by thinking that he had a clue, a brain, etc, and was in control of his mouth and/or his speech writers, then by all means, I apologize.
19 posted on 09/10/2008 4:07:35 PM PDT by caveat emptor (Are we having fun yet?)
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To: stockstrader

or not...........

mrs


20 posted on 09/10/2008 4:07:49 PM PDT by proudmilitarymrs
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To: JimSEA
He does love to play to his crowd and friends, doesn't he.

Yeah, just like the wiseass gradeschool kid who considers himself the smartest guy in the room.

21 posted on 09/10/2008 4:08:57 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: stockstrader
We need to accept Sen. Obama's explanation of the 'lipstick/pig' insult this morning

No. We do not!

22 posted on 09/10/2008 4:09:33 PM PDT by Calamari (Pass enough laws and everyone is guilty of something.)
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To: stockstrader
His comment reminds me of the one made by this dope:

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23 posted on 09/10/2008 4:10:52 PM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (****************************Stop Continental Drift**)
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To: stockstrader
Bull.

As someone whose job entails a good deal of public speaking, I can say Obama is full of it.

Don't just look at the words independent of anything else. The key is in how he delivered it. The way the joke is formulated, its only a single sentence and the last phrase - "it's still a pig" - is supposed to be the punchline.

When Obama presents the joke he begins "you can put lipstick on a pig..." and pauses. The audiences laughs, some applaud, then after this reaction Obama continues with the joke. He knew exactly what he was doing. The audience knew exactly what he was doing. And he's throwing a hissy fit because he thinks he's too clever to get caught.

This is evidence is his response today. Did you know what was suspiciously lacking? An apology. Even if someone meant no offense with a comment, the natural response is to apologize if it is learned that the comment caused offense. It isn't an admission of guilt, but rather just reinforcement that no harm was intended.

Not so with this slime ball.

His response is with mockery, sarcasm, and attacking the McCain camp and the media for the whole mess.

An apology is the last thing you'll ever get out of a man who thinks he's too clever to be caught.
24 posted on 09/10/2008 4:11:20 PM PDT by mike182d ("Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?")
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To: HereInTheHeartland
Bill Sammon says that he knows that this has another 2 days in it. McCain will handle it with class and dignity. osamabama has harmed himself horribly with his stunt in Virginia today. Read the hillary blogs and see the seething hate building for zero. Perception is reality in politics... and the perception that barry has put forth to America these last two days, is one of hate, arrogance and sexism. He will NEVER mend some of the fences he has burned.

LLS

25 posted on 09/10/2008 4:11:35 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (GOD, Country, Family... except for dims!)
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To: mike182d

I apologize for the grammatical errors in my last post. I’m just so infuriated by the arrogance of this man.


26 posted on 09/10/2008 4:12:40 PM PDT by mike182d ("Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?")
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To: Snickering Hound
The McCain campaign needs to let it go though and let the fire rage at the grassroots.

They did. No mention of it by either McCain or Palin today. Actually, I have not heard either of them mention it at all. The ran an ad this morning and sent out a press release condemning it but. McCain and Palin were talking about the economy, energy, national defense while Obama was dealing with his own mess.
27 posted on 09/10/2008 4:12:42 PM PDT by j_k_l
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To: stockstrader

While I think if you asked Obama a couple of days ago if it was a good strategy to call Palin a pig I am sure he isnt that dumb. That said as soon as the crowd reacted the way they did he should have caught himself and stopped it right there. But not only did he deliver the end like a punch line, he continued to pull out the wrap the old fish comment. On those merits I dont see giving him a pass.


28 posted on 09/10/2008 4:14:53 PM PDT by TheRedSoxWinThePennant
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To: stockstrader

Just watching the morons behind the Messiah start laughing INSTANTLY as he said the ‘lipstick’ comment, just shows that the “Anointed One” knew EXACTLY what he was saying.

Believe me, they weren’t laughing at “Bush’s failed economics” or anything like that . . .

They and the Anointed Messiah Hussein Obama were making fun of an apparently very pleasant and intelligent woman. Ugly feminatzis and politicians who’ve sold their soul to the Devil for unlimited, four-trimester abortions can’t stand her.

May God guide her and keep her safe.


29 posted on 09/10/2008 4:16:10 PM PDT by laweeks ( to)
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To: Snickering Hound

I am surprised that everyone had left off at the lipstick comment and ignored Obomber’s next breath about wrapping OLD fish in newspaper and how it still stinks.

He clearly was being provocative, but his mind-numb robots will argue otherwise.

My daughter found this appropriate movie clip from the 1940 movie “The Ghost Breakers”: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkzV5AIK8iM


30 posted on 09/10/2008 4:18:08 PM PDT by pattnet
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To: stockstrader
You are so lucky that my years here on Free Republic have disciplined me to read the entire article before flaming, Zotting, and ripping somebody a new navel...I might have even paid you a visit to help reeducate you...as is, you are 100% correct in your assessment.
31 posted on 09/10/2008 4:20:42 PM PDT by crazyhorse691 (McCain will screw the conservatives, but, Obama will screw the whole country.)
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To: pipecorp
LOL.

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32 posted on 09/10/2008 4:20:46 PM PDT by dragonblustar (Drop the Zero and vote for a Hero. McCain-Palin 2008)
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To: stockstrader
Okay, another Democrat, another botched joke.

-PJ

33 posted on 09/10/2008 4:21:07 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (You can never over-estimate the Democrats' ability to overplay their hand.)
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To: Snickering Hound

0be is just showing that he will not be bringing a “new tone” anywhere and has been already coopted by the old Chicago Politics of stasis.


34 posted on 09/10/2008 4:26:09 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Palin for President! (PUMA))
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To: traderrob6

Like one man commented on OpiniPundit (your link), they did in George Allen for 1 word “macaca” when he was running. Obama’s body language says he knew what he was doing as he played to his supporters.


35 posted on 09/10/2008 4:26:15 PM PDT by blueyon (Every one should get their 15 mins under the bus)
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To: LibLieSlayer
Read the hillary blogs and see the seething hate building for zero.

I'd like to read them. Got links? :)

36 posted on 09/10/2008 4:26:51 PM PDT by Timeout (The Brits have their royal family. We have our privileged "public servant" class.)
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To: stockstrader

There’s a screen capture of a Dem party web page floating around here dated Aug 30th that says you can put lipstick on a pig but it’s still a pig and it is specifically referring to Palin so the idea is out there in Dem circles. Sorry I don’t remember which post it was on but someone will be able to link it here I’m sure.


37 posted on 09/10/2008 4:27:56 PM PDT by saganite (Obama is a political STD)
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To: stockstrader

Followed with the wrap a fish and it still stinks comment obama made there was no mistake about what he meant.

obama thinks he is smarter then everyone in the room and he’s laughing his butt off at getting back at Gov Palin for her community organizer remark.

Now we know that where Gov Palin hit him with community organizer remark hurt him the most. And he came back low and dirty. So now we know who he is and how he fights.


38 posted on 09/10/2008 4:29:09 PM PDT by GloriaJane (http://www.download.com/gloriajane)
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To: stockstrader

WHY?


39 posted on 09/10/2008 4:30:49 PM PDT by democratsaremyenemy
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To: crazyhorse691
You are so lucky that my years here on Free Republic have disciplined me to read the entire article before flaming, Zotting, and ripping somebody a new navel...

Thank you. Apparently, many posted without reading the whole article....oh well. (s)

40 posted on 09/10/2008 4:33:58 PM PDT by stockstrader (CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN--a ticket with 2 northern liberal lawyer career bureaucrats/s)
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To: GloriaJane

I forgot to add: Remember what Gov Palin’s nick name was... Barracuda!

obama meant every low blow and he thinks he came out on top. But now we’ve got his number.


41 posted on 09/10/2008 4:34:16 PM PDT by GloriaJane (http://www.download.com/gloriajane)
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To: traderrob6
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42 posted on 09/10/2008 4:35:45 PM PDT by cruise_missile ('')
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To: stockstrader

You can put lipstick on B. Hussein but he’s still a Muslim.


43 posted on 09/10/2008 4:37:31 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: GloriaJane
I forgot to add: Remember what Gov Palin’s nick name was... Barracuda!

GREAT POINT!! Good catch (no pun intended).

No one,,,and I mean NO ONE,,,has connected the 'dead rotting fish' comment with the fact that Sarah's nickname is 'Barracuda'.

Another coincidence?

As they would say on FOX,,,,

"YOU DECIDE"!!

44 posted on 09/10/2008 4:39:33 PM PDT by stockstrader (CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN--a ticket with 2 northern liberal lawyer career bureaucrats/s)
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To: blueyon

I agree that he knew what he was doing by making an “inference joke”. What I disagree with is how to respond to it. Sarah is an extremely tough lady and it is best for the McCain campaign to exhibit moderate indignation thus letting everyone know that they know Hussein’s a jerk and then show class by blowing it off as desperate rhetoric.


45 posted on 09/10/2008 4:39:59 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: stockstrader
From now on I will refer to him as Hussein Obama. Perfect
46 posted on 09/10/2008 4:40:39 PM PDT by TBall
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To: stockstrader

The lipstick reference, says it all. He tried to be slick by mentioning a phrase Republicans had used in the past but by the reaction the crowd gave him after the quote he knew and we knew what he meant. He un comedically delivered a nasty shot at Palin got the crowd reaction he antisapated, smiled, and acted like a little school boy who said a bad word.
He is a first class fool!


47 posted on 09/10/2008 4:41:39 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (IF YOU ARE NOT CONSERVATIVE BY 35 YOU HAVE NO BRAIN. W CHURCHILL)
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To: traderrob6

Can’t be the “Iron Lady” moose slayer and a victim at the same time.


48 posted on 09/10/2008 4:41:57 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: stockstrader

Pretty simple really....Obama doesn’t in his heart think Palin is a pig, but he choose that comment specifically because of what Palin’s lipstick comment. He knew what he was doing. It’s time to let it go.


49 posted on 09/10/2008 4:44:51 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: Senator Goldwater
which may explain why his campaign has been off kilter since her introduction.

I have to tell you that I am incredibly worried about McCain's health at this point. McCain is an attack pilot [and no, attack pilots don't grow up]. Creating confusion and dissension in the ranks of the enemy (a tactic that is refined through practice on bureaucrats, martinets and superior officers before it is employed against the enemy) is part of the genetic makeup of an attack pilot. [No sane person lands A4's on the deck of a carrier either, but that is another story.]

I seriously doubt that the constitution of a 70 year old man can take rolling around on the floor laughing until he busts a gut ever since he dropped this pit bull in lipstick behind enemy lines. I am really worried and am saying my prayers that McCain can survive the impact of this joke of all jokes [no it isn't Palin that is the joke, it is the libs and their maximum leader, the chosen One]. When an effort to disrupt and confuse works out better than your fondest dreams and your enemy melts before your eyes like the whicked warlock of the East, it is hillaryous.

50 posted on 09/10/2008 4:45:17 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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