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Hurricane Ike Live Thread III
NOAA/NHC ^ | 12 September 2008 | NOAA/NHC

Posted on 09/12/2008 5:12:09 AM PDT by NautiNurse

Large and dangerous Hurricane Ike approaching the Upper Texas coast. Mandatory evacuations began in earnest Thursday as an estimated one million coastal residents headed inland. There were widespread reports of gas stations running out of fuel.

The National Weather Service posted dire storm surge predictions of 20-25 ft storm surge along the coast and bay heads. Hurricane warnings covered a 400 mile swath of the Gulf of Mexico.

Wholesale gasoline prices spiked 30 percent Thursday, or nearly $1 a gallon, out of fear of what Ike might do.

Public Advisory Updated every 3 hours

Discussion Updated every 6 hours

Buoy data: Western Gulf of Mexico

Forecast Models

Houston/Galveston Long Range Radar
Corpus Christi Long Range Radar
Brownsville Long Range Radar
Lake Charles Long Range Radar

Ike
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Additional Resources:

Navy Tropical Cyclone
Storm Pulse Very cool site

KHOU Houston
ABC 13 News Houston
FOX News Houston

KPLC Lake Charles
KFDM 6 Beaumont/Port Arthur
KKBMT 12 Beaumont
KRIS-TV Corpus Christi
KZTV Corpus Christi

Brazoria County Emergency Management
Galveston County Emergency Management
Chambers Country Emergency Management
Liberty County Emergency Management

Category Wind Speed Barometric Pressure Storm Surge Damage Potential
Tropical
Depression
< 39 mph
< 34 kts
    Minimal
Tropical
Storm
39 - 73 mph
34 - 63 kts
    Minimal
Hurricane 1
(Weak)
74 - 95 mph
64 - 82 kts
28.94" or more
980.02 mb or more
4.0' - 5.0'
1.2 m - 1.5 m
Minimal damage to vegetation
Hurricane 2
(Moderate)
96 - 110 mph
83 - 95 kts
28.50" - 28.93"
965.12 mb - 979.68 mb
6.0' - 8.0'
1.8 m - 2.4 m
Moderate damage to houses
Hurricane 3
(Strong)
111 - 130 mph
96 - 112 kts
27.91" - 28.49"
945.14 mb - 964.78 mb
9.0' - 12.0'
2.7 m - 3.7 m
Extensive damage to small buildings
Hurricane 4
(Very strong)
131 - 155 mph
113 - 135 kts
27.17" - 27.90"
920.08 mb - 944.80 mb
13.0' - 18.0'
3.9 m - 5.5 m
Extreme structural damage
Hurricane 5
(Devastating)
Greater than 155 mph
Greater than 135 kts
Less than 27.17"
Less than 920.08 mb
Greater than 18.0'
Greater than 5.5m
Catastrophic building failures possible

Previous Threads:
Hurricane Ike Live Thread II
Hurricane Ike Live Thread I
TS Hanna, Hurricane Ike & TS Josephine [Other than that, the tropics are calm]
Tropical Storms Hanna, Ike and Josephine, TD Gustav (Other than that, the tropics are calm)


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Arkansas; US: Louisiana; US: Oklahoma; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: arkansas; california; crude; desiel; drill; flordia; florida; galveston; gasoline; gulf; hurricane; ike; louisiana; offshore; oil; oklahoma; prices; refineries; rigs; storm; texas; weather
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To: Xenalyte

Please add me to your list Xena.


861 posted on 09/12/2008 12:43:26 PM PDT by OC_Steve (The hatches are battened down here in Cypress.)
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To: SomeCallMeTim

It was supposed to convey accurate information prepared by experts. It should make some people feel more safe and some people less.

No good purpose is served by encouraging an out-of-control “run for your lives” mentality — notwithstanding government’s interest in sometimes doing so.


862 posted on 09/12/2008 12:44:07 PM PDT by Romulus ("Ira enim viri iustitiam Dei non operatur")
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To: Romulus
Your prediction of "well over 30 feet at the top of the bay" is unfounded, hysterical, and irresponsible fear-mongering.

Wrong. Once again, they UNDERFORECAST Katrina's surge (despite your claims that they always OVERFORECAST hurricane effects). If I am living at 29 feet, and the forecast says it could reach 30 feet, and if the surge forecast history for Katrina is any guide, they could UNDERFORECAST the surge by 5-7 feet, LIKE WHAT HAPPENED WITH KATRINA. And that doesn't even begin to factor in wave action - if the track holds, the winds are going to be blowing diagonally across the bay and right into the area in question.

But the key point is, if someone is at 29 feet above sea level, that is not a sufficient margin for forecast error - they already are facing water in their house if the 10 percent forecast holds. If Ike produces Cat-5 level surge as some feel could happen because of the size of the storm, computer modeling I have seen shows a Cat 5 hitting at high tide could generate 35 foot storm surge at the head of the bay. So I'm basing my opinions on several sources. You, in turn, are living in denial of what happend just three years ago. I'm not going to clutter up this thread any more with a pointless exchange with you, I've made my point, you may had the last comment. And I'm sure if the 10 percent doesn't happen, you'll be strutting around telling people I'm a doomsayer. Just like people in NOLA pointed to the warnings about Ivan and said that Katrina was being overhyped as well, don't worry, the Big Easy is always spared. Guys like you give evacuation managers heartburn.

863 posted on 09/12/2008 12:44:19 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: SomeCallMeTim
The OFFICIAL forecasts are frightening as HELL!

Don't confuse him with the facts.

864 posted on 09/12/2008 12:45:08 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: NautiNurse

The good Lord didn’t make the animals of his creation stupid. Same thing happened ahead of the Tsunami in the pacific a couple of years back. Natives reported animals headed inland a couple of days ahead of the wave.


865 posted on 09/12/2008 12:45:43 PM PDT by arderkrag (Libertarian Nutcase (Political Compass Coordinates: 9.00, -2.62 - www.politicalcompass.org))
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To: Romulus
The first three sentences in Dr. Master's blog. I'm not sure why you chose to omit this information:
Hurricane Ike is closing in on Texas, and stands poised to
become one of the most damaging hurricanes of all time.
Despite Ike's rated Category 2 strength, the hurricane is
much larger and more powerful than Category 5 Katrina or
Category 5 Rita. The storm surge from Ike could rival
Katrina's, inundating a 200-mile stretch of coast from
Galveston to Cameron, Louisiana with waters over 15 feet high.

866 posted on 09/12/2008 12:45:51 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Palin won more votes in her Wasilla Mayoral race than Biden got in his 2008 Pres run)
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To: Rebelbase

Wahhhh, awahhhhhh. Did you know that CNN sux. I knew you did.


867 posted on 09/12/2008 12:46:11 PM PDT by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: Rebelbase
CNN reporter on Live Feed, off air is cussing up a storm waiting for his time slot to open up. “When are we gonna do this? This is Fking horsesh_t!”

A monster storm is headed for a huge population center and this loafer-wearing, chardonnay-sipping media snot is concerned about when he's going to get his face-time.

So typical of the me-me-me media.

868 posted on 09/12/2008 12:46:29 PM PDT by Allegra (Prayers up for all in Ike's path. Please be safe...my hometown.)
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To: Rebelbase

CNN reporter now whining because the network won’t cut to him to report live from the seawall at Galveston and they’re getting wet with spray. He asked for a phone to call the studio. Hahahaha!


869 posted on 09/12/2008 12:48:02 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: OB1kNOb
Would that happen to be the old fort over on the Port Bolivar peninsula across the channel?

No, they are staying at the San Luis, which was built on the site of an old gun battery. It is somewhat elevated, and shoud survive, but will certainly take some damage.

870 posted on 09/12/2008 12:48:12 PM PDT by jdub
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To: arderkrag

there is an older feller from no.Ca. somwhere who guests on Coast to Coast who predicts earthquakes by reading newspaper classifieds to see the numbers of missing pets


871 posted on 09/12/2008 12:48:32 PM PDT by advertising guy ( CHARITY BEGINS AT HUT !)
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To: Miztiki; Cheesehead In Dubai; ishmac; OC_Steve

Zero boarding is happening in our teensy little subdivision, but the square formed by Beltway 8, Westheimer, Dairy Ashford, and Memorial is seeing some serious plywood action.

My buddy Hank, at Memorial and Gessner, reports that some neighbor of his was using actual 2x4s to board up, and that this guy had literally covered every single window in the house. We both decided we could not handle being in a house with absolutely no natural light. Freaky!


872 posted on 09/12/2008 12:48:50 PM PDT by Xenalyte (West Houston . . . Beltway and I-10, more or less)
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To: Xenalyte

If there is a hurricane ping list I would like to be on it. I’m in WV but my company has an office in Houston and I have friends there.


873 posted on 09/12/2008 12:49:10 PM PDT by youturn (I'm learning to draw a fish. I suggest you do too.)
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To: STARWISE

I’m back here after giving up trying to find a wind vs. AGL calculator... There must be one somewhere, but I failed.

Rush in his second hour was laughing about the “people who do not evacuate around Galveston will die” advisory. “I’ve never heard them say such a thing before ha ha”

He didn’t hear the whole advisory, just a clip, it was obvious. I am concerned that his tone could have gotten some fans in trouble. It is too late now. I could not get through. My EMail didn’t reach him in time. No one else got through.


874 posted on 09/12/2008 12:50:15 PM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: Deaf Smith
The Katy Freeway Canal should be flowing pretty good though.

Oh, yeah....I've seen what happens at that I-10 and Beltway 8 intersection in a bad storm...I've seen water up to the traffic lights.

Who are these idiots they're showing on Fox partying right on the freakin' beach???

875 posted on 09/12/2008 12:51:25 PM PDT by Allegra (Prayers up for all in Ike's path. Please be safe...my hometown.)
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To: dirtboy
Kay Bailey Hutchinson is tryng to scare the public now, saying that Galveston Island will be totally submerged. /sarc

For the record, 1836 people lost their lives in Katrina.

sw

876 posted on 09/12/2008 12:51:35 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (Is He the one?)
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To: NautiNurse

I’m in faraway Colorado, and just left the thread to provide training to a Navy reservist flying in from Houston to get his computer accounts set up here at NORTHCOM. He isn’t here, though—evidently his flight was cancelled. He’s booked on a later flight—hope he gets out okay.


877 posted on 09/12/2008 12:51:56 PM PDT by American Quilter (The urge to save humanity is nearly always a cover for the urge to rule. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: Allegra

I hope they enjoy themselves b/c they will be dead by this time tomorrow.

Darwin award winners for sure...


878 posted on 09/12/2008 12:52:28 PM PDT by conservativeinferno (My SUV is the urban squirrel's worst predator.)
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To: Allegra
Those IDIOTS are going to be begging for help if they survive what's coming their way.

Fools!

sw

879 posted on 09/12/2008 12:53:10 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (Is He the one?)
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To: Allegra

I got caught in urban flooding in Houston in the 90s.....some rivers overflowed and the water poured down into the freeways....it was insane....the only reason I got out of there without destroying the rental car was driving like Smokey and the Bandit sideways up on the berms.


880 posted on 09/12/2008 12:54:15 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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