Skip to comments.Minnesota Poll: Obama, McCain are dead even in state (13 point Palin bounce)
Posted on 09/13/2008 10:13:22 PM PDT by Chet 99
Minnesota Poll: Obama, McCain are dead even in state
By BOB VON STERNBERG, Star Tribune
September 13, 2008
Minnesota has become a battleground in a presidential campaign that has dramatically tightened nationwide.
A new Star Tribune Minnesota Poll shows that the race is now a dead heat between Barack Obama and John McCain, each supported by 45 percent of likely voters in the state.
The new poll likely will stoke both sides' efforts during the final 51 days until the election, triggering a barrage of advertising, grass-roots politicking and, potentially, stepped-up visits by the candidates.
The poll found that McCain has made gains across the board since a May Minnesota Poll that showed him trailing by 13 points. He has picked up considerable support among men and to a lesser degree among women. He also has boosted his standing with whites, young voters and all levels of household income and education.
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i find this all very hopeful... on the other hand, i find it irritating... every election cycle, i get my hopes up that one of these blue states is going to turn red... it always seems like that according to the polls... then election day comes and it doesn't happen... not even close... is it really tied? should McCain spend resources there? or will it be wasted money and time? i want the polls to show him up over the margin of error in these "purple" states... then i'll be hopeful...
sorry i'm being negative... i hate negative attitudes and try not to be that way...
There are a lot of young families in CO who have moved in from Calif.
I caution us not to fall into the foolish trap that the dems fell in around the Messiah’s European diaster. We should act as though we need to pick up must wins (which is true). Over confidence this year has never worked well for anyone.
My thought too and the even mention increase ad buys in the article.
More dims heads exploding.
If this RedStar/Minnesota poll has them tied, Mac might be up.
Might?? McCain is up a minimum of 4% in Minnesota from the Bradley effect alone. There is no good news for Obama in ANY poll lately, his moose is cooked.
Not even close???? Bush lost WI in 2004 by 11,384 votes out of almost 3,000,000 cast. The PA margin was about the same as OH in 2004.
I really don’t think we’re being overconfident. I’m not staying home on election day, I think very few here are going to depend on our neighbors to vote for us. But it looks like our neighbors are fired up too this year.
Republicans winning the womens vote throws the whole DEM strategy into utter chaos (as we’re seeing) because they have ZERO SHOT at winning the male vote.
2008, The Palin Landslide. The whole election swung on the VP picks, it’s like we got to choose BOTH VP candidates, Biden? Joe Biden??? (chuckles)
That’s because blue-states are corrupt and the Rats use their power once they have it to break all the rules. Kerry won Wisconsin by 12000 votes out of 3 million in 2004. How many people drove over from St. Paul and Minneapolis to vote there, how many Chicago residents took a short drive up? The midwest is corrupted by the Rats.
There is also a new poll out of NM that has McCain in the lead. McCain may win by a lot.
I don’t like push polls, but it would be soooooo funny if a pollster asked
“Who do you think is more qualified, Palin, or Obama?” and then a possible followup as “OK, thank you. Now between Obama and McCain?”
Palin is more exciting than Bush-Cheney and Obama is scarier than either Gore or Kerry
Good observation there.
Any way you slice it, every angle, it has become a perfect storm and I give Obama a less than 1% chance to win this election. He needs a miracle and I don’t believe he’s the Messiah.
I'd say Carter Policies times 2, plus his 'alleged' terrorist buddies and again, 'alleged' muslim background. This guy will make us look back fondly at the 70's.
Yeah, amongst the living and the living-impaired.
Just like Washington State. Good News just keeps coming!!!!
i hope it really happens this time... so close--and yet, no electoral votes...
Would you confess, "sorry I'm being realistic... I hate realistic attitudes and try not to be that way..."
One could equally say, "sorry I'm being a booster... I hate boosterism and try not to be that way..."
I think the test for publishing on free Republic should be, can we defend what we say? not whether we are politically correct.
Sorry I'm being preachy... I hate preachiness and try not to be that way...
no, because i don't hate being realistic... nor do i hate being an encourager... but being negative, yes--i must apologize for that... i hate being negative... especially because i cannot back up what i'm feeling... what i'm expressing is just a feeling... i have nothing to back up my negative feelings... therefore, i'm sorry... i hate having a negative attitude and try not to be that way...
i hate your preachiness too... and i don't believe you are really sorry for your preachiness toward me... in fact, i believe you like being preachy... i don't find it helpful in this case... nor do i find your "test for publishing on Free Republic" helpful... if i were claiming fact in a situation, then yes--i ought to back it up... but i am sharing a "feeling... a dreadful feeling" in my opinion, and not only will i not back it up, i simply cannot... which is why i must apologize for my negativity... it's my own feeling... again, sorry i'm being negative... i hate negative attitudes and try not to have one...
I’m guessing the commie libs vandalizing downtown St. Paul didn’t help 0bama either.
Minnesota and Wisconsin vote for McCain/Palin 2008!?
Must be about hunting moose, eh?
Wisconsin never runs out of Democrat voters on election day.
I read posts to gain information. Sometimes it is wonderfully valuable information, sometimes it is really insightful. Sometimes the best it can be taken from it is an understanding that that is how other people think and therefore it might provide clues about how they can be persuaded to my point of view.
If we conservatives are censored by Nancy Pelosi because she has silenced talk radio or she somehow contrives to shut down the Internet, we would all be outraged. But if we do it to ourselves by shouting, "zot" or enforcing a kind of reverse political correctness for insufficient cheerleading, we smugly congratulate ourselves as the whole grand purpose of FreeRepublic is compromised.
Too often on these threads we hear and see people being shouted down because they are insufficiently optimistic (which really means insufficiently doctrinaire) about conservative election chances. If it is our opinion, we should not be intimidated from putting it out there. Let the optimists prove that it is too negative.
We get much the same noise when someone says, "I heard on Olbermann" and 10 posters immediately assault the author for watching Olbermann. What the hell business is it of the theirs what one of our fellow posters watches? Are we afraid of Olbermann?
Please accept my assurances that there is nothing personal in any of my remarks.
I better end the sermon lest you wake up to the fact that I am being preachy.
And then McCain will win.
I'll never forget (I was young, naive and very disheartened) when the last Gallup poll before the 1980 election showed Jimmy Carter had, at long last, "caught" Ronald Reagan.
And it wasn't even close.
I did not represent that that is the truth, only that I have truthfully recited it.
I shrugged off a poll showing McCain ahead in MI, and I dismissed a couple showing him close or ahead in PA. But when you start to see EVERY poll putting him even in the blue states, then you have to think something is up.
I'll breathe a little easier when I see two consecutive CO polls showing McCain ahead.
Actually, Gallup tinkered with its final 2004 number. They assigned all undecided to Kerry rather than split it evenly (which would have resulted in them nailing the result).
True. I’m skeptical, but of all Republicans, McCain is probably best poised to shift MN. Duncan Hunter would be down here by 50 points.
Germans and Scandinavians have a history of leaning toward collectivism.
Seven weeks is a long time in politics.
Don’t pop the corks yet!
Biden might quit within a week to clear the way for hillary.
Minnesotans can blow with the wind. Moderately Blue, give them a motivation and they’ll (I live here for 47 years...) go with it.
Sarah is that motivation and in talking with A LOT of people here, Sarah (and John...) will get most of their swing vote.
True, hillary may get in out of desperation.......
BUT - hillary does not resonate well with Minnesotans.
Thanks for postig this!!
Another case of Hillaryphobia.
The interesting part of the McCain / Palin dynamic is that she's actually providing him a mix of benefits, while freeing him up to be himself.
She brings firepower, attracts all incoming fire without taking a scratch, and actually continues to pull in voters from right and center without paradox. Right wingers and centerists are comfortable with her. Left wingers and the media can't seem to lay a hand on her, despite the full court press. And she's dropped some stunning jabs with a smile.
But crafty McCain is keeping his eye on the ball. He's remaining centered, reasonable, and, gosh, Presidential. Rising above the fray like it's not even there. He's free to seek out the center in places like Minnesota or other blue strongholds. Why not? All pretenses aside, he's not McBush, and few people really believe he is. So if he keeps his hands clean and sounds like a level headed, reasonable guy, moderates will be very comfortable with him.
It's like watching the pleasent old tortise ambling to the finish line, while the two hares wear each other out, and the other tortise wanders off in the wrong direction, lecturing and gaffe-ing his way into the sunset.
A Palin appearance and rally at the Hockey Hall of Fame in Eveleth could break the 8th District wide open where the DFL normally polls 70%. The people there are much more attuned to hockey and steel workers and the military than they are to slick city neighborhood organizers. MN is definitely in play, and the Dims are in deep trouble here.
Has to. Michigan too.
Yeah, good article the other day called him the “ugly frog” on whom nothing sticks.
Colorado has one of the highest densities of illegals from Mexico. I can see the libs out there buying truckloads of Corona and passing it out to the illegals to make attenmpts at voting.
Certainly President Kerry appreciated their winning call in 2004...
CNN/USA/Gallup(1573 LV)* 10/29/04 - 10/31/04 49% 49% 1%
Exactly Diogenes. We need to make a strong effort against union thug voter fraud if we see the need to in mid-October, depending on how far ahead McCain is in some of these states and if he needs them. Most democrats have only ever won elections because of voter fraud, going back to Kennedy. Maybe you would want to cut off a finger after they vote in these states...;)
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