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Eating veggies shrinks the brain
The Times of India ^ | 14 Sep 2008, 0103 hrs IST | AGENCIES

Posted on 09/14/2008 8:33:27 PM PDT by null and void

MELBOURNE: Scientists have discovered that going veggie could be bad for your brain-with those on a meat-free diet six times more likely to suffer brain shrinkage.

Vegans and vegetarians are the most likely to be deficient because the best sources of the vitamin are meat, particularly liver, milk and fish. Vitamin B12 deficiency can also cause anaemia and inflammation of the nervous system. Yeast extracts are one of the few vegetarian foods which provide good levels of the vitamin.

The link was discovered by Oxford University scientists who used memory tests, physical checks and brain scans to examine 107 people between the ages of 61 and 87.

When the volunteers were retested five years later the medics found those with the lowest levels of vitamin B12 were also the most likely to have brain shrinkage. It confirms earlier research showing a link between brain atrophy and low levels of B12.

Brain scans of more than 1,800 people found that people who downed 14 drinks or more a week had 1.6% more brain shrinkage than teetotallers. Women in their seventies were the most at risk.

Beer does less damage than wine according to a study in Alcohol and Alcoholism.

Researchers found that the hippocampus-the part of the brain that stores memories - was 10% smaller in beer drinkers than those who stuck to wine.

And being overweight or obese is linked to brain loss, Swedish researchers discovered. Scans of around 300 women found that those with brain shrink had an average body mass index of 27 And for every one point increase in their BMI the loss rose by 13 to 16%.


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: badhunter; brain; foodsupply; health; mentalhealth; shrinkage; vegetarian; veggies
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This may explain why so many vegans are liberals...
1 posted on 09/14/2008 8:33:27 PM PDT by null and void
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To: null and void

This thread is going to be priceless!


2 posted on 09/14/2008 8:35:43 PM PDT by tanuki (Summum ius summa iniura. (The more law, the less justice))
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To: null and void
You...you SCOUNDREL!

I was going to post this exact article, and much the same comment, when the FR servers went all flaky.

Well done, I say to you again, sir!

Cheers!

3 posted on 09/14/2008 8:36:22 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: null and void

yup. gotta agree with these findings
4 posted on 09/14/2008 8:36:41 PM PDT by ari-freedom (We never hide from history. We make history!)
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To: null and void

You beat me to it, that’s what I was going to say.


5 posted on 09/14/2008 8:37:34 PM PDT by chaos_5 (See my profile for cool McCain/Palin "lipstick" stickers!)
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To: neverdem
Like, *PING*, dude.

Cheers!

6 posted on 09/14/2008 8:38:00 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: null and void
I figured that going vegan would make you stupid.

Just too many vegan liberals....

7 posted on 09/14/2008 8:39:00 PM PDT by dirtbiker (My Walmart still has 7 copies of "An Inconvenient Truth" on the shelf)
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To: null and void
I'm 42 and have normal blood pressure and cholesterol and no heart problems, even though everyone else in my family is on high blood pressure meds, and I've never eaten green vegetables. I mentioned this to a doctor I knew, and she wasn't phased at all, and said that she had even seen cases where people like me actually got sick when they tried changing their diets.

I have no idea what any of this means, but I don't like veggies and I ain't eatin' em!

8 posted on 09/14/2008 8:39:02 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Sarah Palin--the man Biden and Obama wish they could be.)
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To: null and void
I figured that going vegan would make you stupid.

Just too many vegan liberals....

9 posted on 09/14/2008 8:39:06 PM PDT by dirtbiker (My Walmart still has 7 copies of "An Inconvenient Truth" on the shelf)
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To: null and void

I guess it’s true that we are what we eat.


10 posted on 09/14/2008 8:39:40 PM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: null and void
I only have one thing to say.

Arugula.

11 posted on 09/14/2008 8:39:41 PM PDT by TheWasteLand
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To: null and void

Ironically, it is because we eat meat that we are intelligent.

According to evolutionists, if you believe them, we’d still be swinging from the trees or hobbling along on two feet if we hadn’t made the switch from all plants to both plants and meat.

A larger brain requires a very high calorie source of food that plants can’t provide. Our brains consume a great deal of energy.


12 posted on 09/14/2008 8:43:33 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Darkwolf377

Mr. President, try the broccoli...


13 posted on 09/14/2008 8:44:30 PM PDT by null and void (When you bang your forehead on the ground five times a day, you get brain damage.)
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To: null and void
It's called "the food chain".

Humans are on the top of it.

Deal with it!

Mankind didn't climb all the way to the top of it just to eat vegetables!

Vegan must be an old Indian word for "bad hunter"....

14 posted on 09/14/2008 8:44:33 PM PDT by dirtbiker (My Walmart still has 7 copies of "An Inconvenient Truth" on the shelf)
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To: grey_whiskers

thanks, bfl


15 posted on 09/14/2008 8:44:53 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: null and void

people that watch tv all day

fry their brains!


16 posted on 09/14/2008 8:44:59 PM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: grey_whiskers
I was going to post this exact article, and much the same comment, when the FR servers went all flaky.

So was I....

17 posted on 09/14/2008 8:45:25 PM PDT by null and void (When you bang your forehead on the ground five times a day, you get brain damage.)
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To: null and void

18 posted on 09/14/2008 8:46:34 PM PDT by Roscoe Karns
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WTF? Beer does less damage than wine according to a study in Alcohol and Alcoholism.

Researchers found that the hippocampus-the part of the brain that stores memories - was 10% smaller in beer drinkers than those who stuck to wine.

Lazy writer.

19 posted on 09/14/2008 8:47:48 PM PDT by Dust in the Wind (Praying for Reign)
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To: null and void
Beer does less damage than wine according to a study in Alcohol and Alcoholism.

Researchers found that the hippocampus-the part of the brain that stores memories - was 10% smaller in beer drinkers than those who stuck to wine.

Ok, so is it beer or wine that makes my brain smaller. And is there an alcoholic beverage that makes other organs larger...?

20 posted on 09/14/2008 8:48:03 PM PDT by freebilly
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“Beer does less damage than wine according to a study in Alcohol and Alcoholism.

Researchers found that the hippocampus-the part of the brain that stores memories - was 10% smaller in beer drinkers than those who stuck to wine. “

Is it me, or do these sentences sound contradictory?


21 posted on 09/14/2008 8:48:48 PM PDT by MIT-Elephant ("Armed with what? Spitballs?")
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To: null and void; SierraWasp; Issaquahking

So, if you’re a fat, drunk vegetarian you’re brain has shrunk about 40%.

Yes, that explains a LOT.


22 posted on 09/14/2008 8:49:50 PM PDT by AuntB ( "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: null and void; grey_whiskers
I was going to post this exact article, and much the same comment, when the FR servers went all flaky.

So was I....

I wasn't going to.

 Anybody else not going to post this and comment?

23 posted on 09/14/2008 8:50:36 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (I'm voting for the white woman.)
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To: null and void

One of my friends dates a vegetarian. They joined us for dinner and a few drinks last night.

She is a nutcase that is supporting Obama. She said to me that Sarah Palin is a nazi.

Anyway, this just further supports the article about the brain shrinkage.


24 posted on 09/14/2008 8:51:57 PM PDT by boycott
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To: freebilly
And is there an alcoholic beverage that makes other organs larger...?

Both beer and wine make you think other organs are larger!

25 posted on 09/14/2008 8:52:29 PM PDT by Nitro (Nitro does it with a BANG!!)
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To: null and void

I know canned veggies are definitely not good for you on a consistant basis. The Sodium content is outrageous. Of course, it’s a preservative but still not good.


26 posted on 09/14/2008 8:52:53 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: null and void

Somehow I knew that.


27 posted on 09/14/2008 8:53:21 PM PDT by microgood
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To: Nitro

They also make the female kind seem smaller as well.


28 posted on 09/14/2008 8:53:45 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: MIT-Elephant
Is it me, or do these sentences sound contradictory?

They're only contradictory to those who aren't drinking.

29 posted on 09/14/2008 8:54:03 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: ari-freedom

Ms Peta is fine after a few beers and some meat.


30 posted on 09/14/2008 8:56:24 PM PDT by Mark (Don't argue with my posts. I typed while under sniper fire..)
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To: freebilly
And is there an alcoholic beverage that makes other organs larger...?

Frozen margaritas.

31 posted on 09/14/2008 8:57:46 PM PDT by Marauder (Damn all Bolsheviks to hell.)
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To: null and void
B.S.

Vishwanathan Anand, current World Chess Champion, vegetarian since birth.

Srinivasa Ramanujan, arguably one of the greatest mathematicians of all time, vegetarian all his life. If an exception breaks the rule, the rule is broken

32 posted on 09/14/2008 8:59:21 PM PDT by libh8er
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To: ari-freedom

I really had to stare at that word “Abuse” for a bit. Wasn’t sure why...


33 posted on 09/14/2008 8:59:35 PM PDT by jddqr (White queen checkmates black king: http://palincheckmate.com)
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To: Nitro

I’m married, so my wife is the RULER of the house....


34 posted on 09/14/2008 9:00:59 PM PDT by freebilly
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To: Dust in the Wind
WTF? Beer does less damage than wine according to a study in Alcohol and Alcoholism. Researchers found that the hippocampus-the part of the brain that stores memories - was 10% smaller in beer drinkers than those who stuck to wine. Lazy writer.

That had me scratching my head, too.

BTW.. Happy FReeping Anniversary!

P.S. Your SN is my bad luck song!
35 posted on 09/14/2008 9:01:34 PM PDT by divine_moment_of_facts (If there were no Cowards there could be no Bullies.)
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To: null and void

Cows = Dumb and Tasty

Tigers = Big, stringy and smart.

Says it all.

Eat Cows, consult a Tiger for Market Analysis


36 posted on 09/14/2008 9:02:30 PM PDT by Conan the Librarian (The Best in Life is to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and the Dewey Decimal System)
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To: divine_moment_of_facts

bttt


37 posted on 09/14/2008 9:03:12 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (Obama is the Democrats guy. They bought the ticket, now they must take the ride.)
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To: Marauder
Frozen margaritas

If only that were true....

38 posted on 09/14/2008 9:03:28 PM PDT by freebilly
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To: null and void

Eat more moose


39 posted on 09/14/2008 9:05:28 PM PDT by NorseWood
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To: Mark

Wonder what the T & A means.


40 posted on 09/14/2008 9:05:54 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: libh8er; snarks_when_bored
Concerning Ramanujan...

Wikipedia says:

"Quoting K. Srinivasa Rao,[85] "As for his place in the world of Mathematics, we quote Bruce C. Berndt: 'Paul Erdős has passed on to us G. H. Hardy's personal ratings of mathematicians. Suppose that we rate mathematicians on the basis of pure talent on a scale from 0 to 100, Hardy gave himself a score of 25, J.E. Littlewood 30, David Hilbert 80 and Ramanujan 100.'"

If someone ranked him above Hilbert, that's quite an accomplishment.

I still am a fan of von Neumann, however.

Cheers!

41 posted on 09/14/2008 9:09:57 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: boycott
Nazi eh? I bet the word fascist was also probably bandied about.

Gee I gotta quit peeking on DU.

42 posted on 09/14/2008 9:13:56 PM PDT by LimaLimaMikeFoxtrot ("If you don't have my army supplied, and keep it supplied, we'll eat your mules up, sir"-Gen.Sherman)
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To: Darkwolf377

Interestingly, I’m 52 and haven’t had anything vegetable in my mouth since November.

Meat and water only. And fatty meat, at that. Blood pressure’s way down, blood work is all outstanding...and I’ve lost over 35 pounds of fat and put on around 7 pounds of lean muscle.

I’ve done a LOT of reading and studying about this. Seems like veggies may not be all they’re cracked up to be.


43 posted on 09/14/2008 9:16:02 PM PDT by Chasaway (Tonto to the Lone Ranger: "What do you mean WE, white man?")
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To: null and void

You’ll have to pry those barbecued ribs from my cold, dead hands...


44 posted on 09/14/2008 9:16:39 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Sarah Palin--the man Biden and Obama wish they could be.)
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To: divine_moment_of_facts
Well sorry about the luck, pick one of Uncle Teds. I like this advice; "Remain polite and courteous, but never back down." I just can't seem to follow it well in person.

I like your taste in heroes, this would be a fun party!

It's my anniversary? Dang, I forgot to get myself a gift or anything; must have been too much beer or wine or...)

45 posted on 09/14/2008 9:19:09 PM PDT by Dust in the Wind (Praying for Reign)
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To: Nitro

“She is a nutcase that is supporting Obama. She said to me that Sarah Palin is a nazi.”

well..consider also - how many of these vegans like to toke on those funny looking cigarettes?
The combined damage to the brain with the added cannabis-induced-paranoia, and the dull liberal brain is ripe for a vast number of conspiracy theories.


46 posted on 09/14/2008 9:23:26 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: libh8er

Just imagine how much smarter they could have been had they eaten meat :)


47 posted on 09/14/2008 9:28:03 PM PDT by Aznar5
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I was wondering why vegetarians are so DUMB!

Now I understand.

48 posted on 09/14/2008 9:32:25 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: libh8er

I agree. These news articles are so funny. Why isn’t the headline “Fat people loose brain cells” or “Drinking causes brain loss”?

So to avoid B12 Deficiency I should Get Heart Disease and Cancer, no thanks.

If you do some research, it is actually very hard to be b12 deficient even as a vegetarian.

A quick look at cereal in my kitchen shows 1 serving has 45% of our daily needs. B12 is stored in the body for years, so it is very hard to be deficient unless you are eating very very narrow food choices.

I removed meat, oil and dairy from my diet and my standing heart rate went from 78 to 44. Much easier for your heart to pump blood when there is not sludge floating in your veins ;)

No meds, no asthma, no heart problems, no obesity, all with simple change in diet. Our bodies heal themselves if given a chance.

More info on b12 is here if interested: http://www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2007nl/nov/b12.htm


49 posted on 09/14/2008 9:42:26 PM PDT by bigfootwave
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To: bigfootwave

We veggie FReepers need to form our own Ping list ! :)


50 posted on 09/14/2008 9:48:10 PM PDT by libh8er
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