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OBAMA TRIED TO STALL GIS' IRAQ WITHDRAWAL [election is over?]
New York Post ^ | 09/15/08 | AMIR TAHERI

Posted on 09/15/2008 2:03:51 AM PDT by Enchante

WHILE campaigning in public for a speedy withdrawal of US troops from Iraq, Sen. Barack Obama has tried in private to persuade Iraqi leaders to delay an agreement on a draw-down of the American military presence.

According to Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, Obama made his demand for delay a key theme of his discussions with Iraqi leaders in Baghdad in July.

"He asked why we were not prepared to delay an agreement until after the US elections and the formation of a new administration in Washington," Zebari said in an interview.

Obama insisted that Congress should be involved in negotiations on the status of US troops - and that it was in the interests of both sides not to have an agreement negotiated by the Bush administration in its "state of weakness and political confusion."

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This is huge (and serious) -- Iraqi Foreign Minister says Obamessiah tried to interfere with negotiations about the status of forces agreement and impending US troop withdrawals to try to push everything later..... he claims he wants troop withdrawals but he interfered to try to prevent any progress before the election.
1 posted on 09/15/2008 2:03:51 AM PDT by Enchante
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Report is that Obama tried to derail impending decisions on troop withdrawals and status-of-forces agreement, obviously to benefit his own political prospects!!!! If this is not treason it is the first cousin of treason. Working privately to try to derail official US govt. negotiations in a WAR zone over such highly sensitive and important matters.....

The MSM will try to ignore it, but this should be a gigantic scandal that should cost Obama the election.


2 posted on 09/15/2008 2:06:22 AM PDT by Enchante ("Troopergate" = Obama Democrats Working Hard to Smear Governor Palin in a Non-Scandal)
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To: Enchante

It has every reason to be a big scandal, but it’ll go away somehow. Nothing seems to stick to Obama.


3 posted on 09/15/2008 2:07:38 AM PDT by NinoFan
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To: Enchante

SAY IT AINT SO !! -— OBAMA Politicizing the WAR ? NO — REALLY ???

Yes, this about seals the deal... the 2008 campaign for President has now been decided...


4 posted on 09/15/2008 2:07:51 AM PDT by davidosborne (SARAH PALIN for VP ---- McCain is just the "baggage" that comes with that VOTE !!)
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To: Enchante
The A-hole Obama is trying to deep six legitimate negotiations between our country and Iraq.

This must get some air time, ASAP. This is an abomination.

5 posted on 09/15/2008 2:08:29 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (What's "Price Gouging"? Should government force us to sell to the 15th highest bidder on eBay?)
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To: Enchante

6 posted on 09/15/2008 2:08:29 AM PDT by Bobalu (Obama cannot win without the kind of people that Palin appeals to.)
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To: Enchante

This cries out for 527 group ads!
Where are the swift boat boys?


7 posted on 09/15/2008 2:09:52 AM PDT by Bobalu (Obama cannot win without the kind of people that Palin appeals to.)
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To: Enchante

bookmark


8 posted on 09/15/2008 2:10:18 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: Enchante

indeed, this is big and very serious


9 posted on 09/15/2008 2:10:54 AM PDT by 4rcane
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To: ConservativeMind

Paging Rush Limbaugh...pick up the red courtesy phone.


10 posted on 09/15/2008 2:11:01 AM PDT by Bobalu (Obama cannot win without the kind of people that Palin appeals to.)
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To: Enchante
Obama insisted that Congress should be involved in negotiations on the status of US troops

Oh, dear God help us. He's got absolutely no clue about the separation of the executive and legislative branches, and which one is actually the commander-in-chief. We CANNOT let this bozo Obambi get into power. His stupidity is simply overwhelming.

11 posted on 09/15/2008 2:11:23 AM PDT by hsalaw
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To: Enchante
" The MSM will try to ignore it, but this should be a gigantic scandal that should cost Obama the election. "

Everyone knows the SOP ( Standard Operational Procedure ) .... Send to Drudge, Rush, Mark Levin, Haniity ... we can't let the MSM get away of burying the news of this or frame the views......
12 posted on 09/15/2008 2:11:52 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: ConservativeMind
It is truly an Obamanation!!! Another paragraph in the article sums up what is going on, although of course Obama will try to deny it:

"Obama has given Iraqis the impression that he doesn't want Iraq to appear anything like a success, let alone a victory, for America. The reason? He fears that the perception of US victory there might revive the Bush Doctrine of "pre-emptive" war - that is, removing a threat before it strikes at America."

13 posted on 09/15/2008 2:11:57 AM PDT by Enchante ("Troopergate" = Obama Democrats Working Hard to Smear Governor Palin in a Non-Scandal)
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To: Enchante

again he forgot that he wasn’t President, he had no authority whatsoever to discuss anything about war strategy (strategery!).

He should be charged with something, reprimanded in the Senate, SOMETHING????


14 posted on 09/15/2008 2:13:19 AM PDT by tina07 (In loving memory of my father,WWII Vet. CBI 10/16/42 - 12/17/45, d. 11/1/85)
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To: Enchante

I can’t say I’m all that shocked.

I hope this meets the bright light of day though and that he’s called to task for it.


15 posted on 09/15/2008 2:14:19 AM PDT by PowerPro (McCain/Palin FTW)
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To: Enchante
Wow... coming to an advertisement near you soon!
16 posted on 09/15/2008 2:14:28 AM PDT by Mikey_1962 (Obama: The Affimative Action Candidate)
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To: Enchante
Now we know where he got his foreign policy experience...

FAIL!...

17 posted on 09/15/2008 2:16:03 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: politicallyincarrect; /\XABN584; 3D-JOY; 5Madman; <1/1,000,000th%; 11B3; 1Peter2:16; ...

OK, just when you thought it could not get any WORSE for Obama... this should seal the deal for Sarah Palin and Mc-What’s his name !!

TOWARD VICTORY


18 posted on 09/15/2008 2:16:37 AM PDT by davidosborne (SARAH PALIN for VP ---- McCain is just the "baggage" that comes with that VOTE !!)
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To: Enchante

Somebody send this to Matt...


19 posted on 09/15/2008 2:18:40 AM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative (Reagan conservatism is back ! .. Thank God for Sarah.)
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To: Caipirabob

This can blow apart the debates, because it will be great ammo for both Palin and McCain.... it is a chilling example of the mendacity of the Democrats and the malicious ineptitude of Obama. Imagine trying undermine the negotiations of one’s own govt. in a war zone, blundering about to try to mess with decisions about troops levels, relations with the Iraqi govt., etc.


20 posted on 09/15/2008 2:18:44 AM PDT by Enchante ("Troopergate" = Obama Democrats Working Hard to Smear Governor Palin in a Non-Scandal)
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To: davidosborne; All

I don’t want us to get too far ahead of ourselves but it Obambi is allowed to steal the election after this is revealed then our country is in worse shape than I’d thought. By rights he should soon be one of the most reviled figures in US history, and no matter how much the media try to protect him now this can no longer be kept under wraps.


21 posted on 09/15/2008 2:22:37 AM PDT by Enchante (OBAMAGATE: Iraqi Foreign Minister Says Obama Tried to Derail Agreement on Troop Withdrawals!!!)
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To: Bobalu

Just sent the link to Mr. Rushbo.


22 posted on 09/15/2008 2:23:05 AM PDT by Gator_that_eats_Dems
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To: Enchante
The Iraqis don't like Obama and hope McCain wins.

The Iranian Mullahcracy like Obama and hopes he wins.

'Nuff said.

23 posted on 09/15/2008 2:25:29 AM PDT by Allegra (Prayers up for all in Ike's path. Please be safe...my hometown.)
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To: Enchante

The Logan Act makes it a felony and provides for a prison sentence of up to three years for any American, “without authority of the United States,” to communicate with a foreign government in an effort to influence that government’s behavior on any “disputes or controversies with the United States.”


24 posted on 09/15/2008 2:26:39 AM PDT by Joe Miner
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To: Enchante
Bardering, the lives of troops for political advancement.

Tell me one more time B. Hussein, how much you care about the welfare of Soldiers and vets.

Its no wonder everytime I see him my reflex response is S.O. B.

25 posted on 09/15/2008 2:27:34 AM PDT by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: All

To All:

I don’t actually like how the media attaches ‘gate’ to every scandal, but given that they operate with that template I think we should try to promote “OBAMA-GATE” as the label for this scandal.

That puts Obama himself right smack at the center of the controversy, as it should be.


26 posted on 09/15/2008 2:30:34 AM PDT by Enchante (OBAMAGATE: Iraqi Foreign Minister Says Obama Tried to Derail Agreement on Troop Withdrawals!!!)
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To: Joe Miner

“The Logan Act makes it a felony ..”

Yes, but all he has to do is deny he said it and it turns into a stalemate. This could have legs politically, but I can’t imagine it will get to the point of legal action.


27 posted on 09/15/2008 2:30:38 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Enchante
Isn't he supposed to be registered as an agent of foreign powers if he has direct negotiations with foreign governments?
28 posted on 09/15/2008 2:31:44 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Enchante

there is no such thing as getting too far ahead in this election.. Sarah Palin has given McCain this election on a silver platter.. only HE can mess it up at this point..

David


29 posted on 09/15/2008 2:32:52 AM PDT by davidosborne (SARAH PALIN for VP ---- McCain is just the "baggage" that comes with that VOTE !!)
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To: Allegra

makes sense — I’m sure that the Mullahs would love to be dealing with a simpering weakling like Obama.....

.... and the Iraqis must realize that Obama would sell them out in a heartbeat....


30 posted on 09/15/2008 2:32:54 AM PDT by Enchante (OBAMAGATE: Iraqi Foreign Minister Says Obama Tried to Derail Agreement on Troop Withdrawals!!!)
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To: Enchante
I cannot express the seething rage I feel right now towards that arrogant little parasite.

Mr. niteowl77

31 posted on 09/15/2008 2:32:57 AM PDT by niteowl77 (The niteowl77s: parents who support those who support their soldier.)
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To: Joe Miner

That’s what I was thinking of.


32 posted on 09/15/2008 2:33:03 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Enchante
I agree that this could be game breaking but let's make sure of what we have.

First, is this an opinion piece or is this a news piece? On its face and seems to be an opinion piece yet I could not find reference to a news source for the complaints against Obama's conduct. Did I miss something?

Second, do we have anything more than he said,he said? In other words the author, Amir Tahiri, purports to quote the Iraqi foreign minister-a reputable enough source in itself-but where did he get the quote? Is it quoted elsewhere in other publications? Were there transcripts of any of these discussions? Have any other Iraqi officials corroborated the allegations?

The posters on this thread are absolutely right, the matter must be brought to a boil to determine what Obama says, will he denying it outright? Does he intend to explain it away? But we will get no traction unless he must comment somehow.


33 posted on 09/15/2008 2:33:25 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Enchante

We all know that Obama wanted to take credit for bringing the troops home, a promise he made to his base support. If Bush up-staged him, he could not claim that promise...so, once again, it’s all Bush’s fault!


34 posted on 09/15/2008 2:37:00 AM PDT by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: nathanbedford

Tahiri is good, but you’re right, if this gets attention Obama will engage in some sort of denial, and we don’t know how good a position we’re in. I.e., would Iraq’s foreign minister stick to his claim? Is there anyone else to back it up?

But it’s got to get coverage in order to force Obama to respond at all. As long as the source sticks to his guns, Obama would be in trouble anyway, as he doesn’t want to be caught in this sort of international bicker.


35 posted on 09/15/2008 2:37:06 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Enchante

Why is this only coming out now? Because before the Iraqis thought Obama was a sure thing as the next president, and now it’s not looking that way?


36 posted on 09/15/2008 2:38:42 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: nathanbedford
I certainly agree it needs to be nailed down. My impression is that the author, Amir Taheri (who is well respected, though maybe not by liberals), conducted his own interview with the FM (Taheri says "in an interview" and does not refer to anyone else conducting the interview, so that should normally imply that Taheri conducted the interview himself).

But you are right, it could all degenerate into "he said, he said" if it is not nailed down more firmly. The Obama campaign must be pressed hard immediately to confirm or deny the report.... if they try to deny that Obama said anything like this at all, then a lot will depend upon whether the FM is ready to confirm or not, who else might have been present, etc. Hope that Taheri has his ducks well lined up already, and that the Iraqis are willing to stand by their account.

37 posted on 09/15/2008 2:39:00 AM PDT by Enchante (OBAMAGATE: Iraqi Foreign Minister Says Obama Tried to Derail Agreement on Troop Withdrawals!!!)
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To: 9YearLurker

popcorn.. someone get me some popcorn NOW !! :)


38 posted on 09/15/2008 2:39:41 AM PDT by davidosborne (SARAH PALIN for VP ---- McCain is just the "baggage" that comes with that VOTE !!)
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To: davidosborne
Passing the bucket to my fellow FReepers.. let's sit back and see how Obama responds to this one..
39 posted on 09/15/2008 2:42:45 AM PDT by davidosborne (SARAH PALIN for VP ---- McCain is just the "baggage" that comes with that VOTE !!)
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To: 9YearLurker

Yeah, I have to imagine that in the summer the Iraqi FM and others felt they had to accept Obama’s bombast and expect that they would be dealing with him as the next POTUS, but now since the brilliant advent of Sarah Palin and the shift in the electoral landscape, it’s dawned on them that Obama might well lose..... and if they have even the slightest sense of US politics at all they will know that this is just the kind of outrage that will help Obama to lose.

[of course, that will be the next line of retreat by the Obamanation, to claim that eviiiillll forces in the Iraqi regime are in collusion with Bush/McCain to undermine the Obamessiah]


40 posted on 09/15/2008 2:43:28 AM PDT by Enchante (OBAMAGATE: Iraqi Foreign Minister Says Obama Tried to Derail Agreement on Troop Withdrawals!!!)
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To: Enchante

This is incredible!


41 posted on 09/15/2008 2:43:51 AM PDT by jporcus
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To: Enchante

Yes, it’s official. He is truly the Manchurian Candidate.


42 posted on 09/15/2008 2:49:01 AM PDT by princeofdarkness (Ronald Reagan- "Trust But Verify" MSM- "Report, Lie, Then Crucify")
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To: Enchante
Let's hope that that "interview" was conducted and printed in a foreign language newspaper and that is the source of this piece.

That would then place the foreign minister on the record elsewhere and make it more likely he would stay with the story which he presumably has not recanted up until now.


43 posted on 09/15/2008 2:49:06 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: jporcus

But, but, but, Sarah fired one of her appointees, and, and, is against abortion and, has a pregnant daughter and, and, wears lipstick.... such a scandal../s


44 posted on 09/15/2008 2:49:14 AM PDT by just me (Looks like the MSM moonbats have been infected with rabies..)
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To: Enchante
0bama impedes negotiations and troop withdrawals, and also votes against body armour and other essential equipment.
45 posted on 09/15/2008 2:50:09 AM PDT by igoramus08
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To: Enchante
[election is over?]

The election isn't over, for Pete's sake. Do you really think this makes ANY difference to Obama's fans?

46 posted on 09/15/2008 2:50:16 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Sarah Palin--the man Biden and Obama wish they could be.)
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To: Darkwolf377

I’m not talking about Obama cultists..... I’m talking about the 60% or more of Americans who will not stand for this kind of crap if they learn about it. Whether they do learn about it is of course one big ‘IF’ but with the blogs and talk radio etc. we have every chance of getting the word out.


47 posted on 09/15/2008 2:52:13 AM PDT by Enchante (OBAMAGATE: Iraqi Foreign Minister Says Obama Tried to Derail Agreement on Troop Withdrawals!!!)
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48 posted on 09/15/2008 2:52:23 AM PDT by mirkwood (Palin has my vote!)
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To: Enchante
Disgusting...

But not the first time Obama has meddled in the affairs of a foreign country.

So, the big question is why is he interferring in Bush/Iraq withdrawal? political gain?

And, Why did Obama meddle in the presidential politics of a foreign nation - Kenya?

Why did he support Odinga after he signed the memorandum of understanding with the radical Islamicists in Kenya?

The post election violence in Kenya killed over a thousand people and displaced another three hundred thousand or more. Scores of Christian churches were burned in a wave of tribal and anti-Christian religious violence that, again, left no mosques damaged. If Obama continues to support Odinga as prime minister is he thereby accepting or condoning the postelection violence that brought Odinga to power, and a radical agenda from the left that would expand Islam in Kenya? If so, Obama is pro-Islam.

And, what does that mean for America?

Odinga strong-armed his way into the position of prime minister of Kenya after he lost the presidential election. Obama supports Odinga.

49 posted on 09/15/2008 2:53:31 AM PDT by xtinct (Suicide Hotline... !! "Obama here" --> Please Hold...)
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To: hsalaw
He's got absolutely no clue about the separation of the executive and legislative branches, and which one is actually the commander-in-chief.

That his suggesting the Georgia crisis be handled by the UN--and his ignorance of what Russia's position there would mean to any "solution"--wasn't a legitimacy-terminating event tells me nothing will change the minds of his core supporters, who love him for the one thing no article can change--his skin color.

50 posted on 09/15/2008 2:53:31 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Sarah Palin--the man Biden and Obama wish they could be.)
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