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Dow Closes Down 504.48
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Posted on 09/15/2008 1:16:57 PM PDT by illiac

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To: xcamel
Well, not exactly "everything", for example, the INDEX FUNDS. First, the S&P ill need to drop 2 or 3 and figure out who to move up. Then, the Russell 2000 will need to drop several, and add several.

At the moment it's difficult to figure out the lists.

Maybe by 10 AM tomorrow? Should see some zigzags and jumps then.

21 posted on 09/15/2008 1:27:02 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: jersey117

Oil is at $94.23 right now.


22 posted on 09/15/2008 1:27:18 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged
Let’s see how the media cover this on the 6 PM news - doom, gloom, scare people, Bush bad.

Count on it

23 posted on 09/15/2008 1:27:20 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: boogerbear

I wish someone could explain to me just what the H*ll is causing all of this...........


24 posted on 09/15/2008 1:27:23 PM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Republicans and Conservatives staying home will give us President Hussein Obama.)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

WAMU has been in dire straights for a while...

Financial sector was basically destroyed by a bunch of greedy self servers, and now the piper has come to be paid.


25 posted on 09/15/2008 1:27:24 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay

No more bailouts. Let the chips fall where they may. The sooner we hit botton, the faster we can rise wherever that may be. I have pulled all my money out of the market outside 401K.


26 posted on 09/15/2008 1:27:51 PM PDT by Ravi
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To: AxelPaulsenJr

TRILLIONS UPON TRILLIONS OF BAD LOANS is what’s causing all this... created by simple undeniable unfettered greed.


27 posted on 09/15/2008 1:28:45 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: AxelPaulsenJr; NautiNurse

Wachovia is not in serious trouble, it’s Washington Mutual. Please don’t spread rumors.


28 posted on 09/15/2008 1:31:12 PM PDT by Perdogg (Sen Robert Byrd - Ex community organizer)
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To: AxelPaulsenJr
Americans borrowed lifestyles they couldn't afford from other countries, using now-troubled financial institutions as intermediaries. Those other countries are starting to realize that Americans don't have the money to pay them back. There are a lot of complicated financial instruments in between, but that's the gist of it.

The Dow will eventually retest the post 9/11 low - about 7,500. That will be a pretty good long-term buying opportunity.

29 posted on 09/15/2008 1:31:24 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("One man's 'magic' is another man's engineering. 'Supernatural' is a null word." -- Robert Heinlein)
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To: xcamel
BTW. Russell is already on the way up.

Here's a history lesson for everybody. One day the Doge and the Senate in Venice decided it was time to cash in the bonds outstanding on the national debt (called the Monte Veccio).

They offered 2% on the ducat.

People redeemed their money as fast as they could, particularly those who'd seemed to have lost 98% of their wealth.

The next day the bond market reopened and had a landoffice boom! Everybody took his 2% and reinvested in Venice, the best buy in the world at that time.

30 posted on 09/15/2008 1:31:39 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: cw35
Market fears regulation from Obama if he wins (that’s in the back of the markets mind). Though I am surprised the market hasn’t been rallying since it became clear McCain would win.

Won't this change minds of the public with the new wave of Bush bashing and blaming economy on him? How can the GOP as better for economy message get out?
31 posted on 09/15/2008 1:31:41 PM PDT by Notasoccermom (.)
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To: illiac
This is clearly the fault of George Bush.

p.s. to believe this, one must either be an ass, or ignorant (for from DU forums, both). Ask a liberal which entity of our government is "responsible" for oversight of the economy.
32 posted on 09/15/2008 1:31:57 PM PDT by Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh (I cling to guns and religion.)
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To: illiac
thank god for the little things:

renting apartment, city job, pension, benefits, overtime, deferred compensation.

33 posted on 09/15/2008 1:32:06 PM PDT by thefactor (contributing nothing of value to threads since 2001...)
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To: AxelPaulsenJr

“I wish someone could explain to me just what the H*ll is causing all of this...........”

in a nutshell - bad loans.
people start not paying their loans
liquidity goes right down the crapper
there is more to it but this is your starting point


34 posted on 09/15/2008 1:32:40 PM PDT by DM1
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To: illiac

That is putting it mildly


35 posted on 09/15/2008 1:32:48 PM PDT by gogov
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To: illiac

Don’t worry. The federal government has plenty of green ink, silk paper and printing presses. They won’t run out of bailout money.

/sarcasm


36 posted on 09/15/2008 1:32:57 PM PDT by r_barton
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To: AxelPaulsenJr

Too many companies extended too much credit to too many people and other companies that were probably not going to be able to pay it back and didn’t have the level of assets necessary to properly secure the loans.

Basically it’s stage two of the housing bubble meltdown. Properties bought on speculative credit went down in price or just sat unsold. Stage one involved the up front owners going down, stage two is the creditors who gave the up front owners all that money finding out that most of that money has now evaporated. Not only will they not get it back from the people they lent it too, but even selling the foreclosed properties is only going to get them a small percentage.

But just like bad Mexican food this too shall pass.


37 posted on 09/15/2008 1:33:01 PM PDT by boogerbear
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To: Perdogg
Wachovia is not in serious trouble, it’s Washington Mutual.

You have to be kidding. They are in just about the same situation - bankrupt within weeks without a Fed-enabled, Bear Stearns-style bailout/takeover.

38 posted on 09/15/2008 1:33:07 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("One man's 'magic' is another man's engineering. 'Supernatural' is a null word." -- Robert Heinlein)
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To: AxelPaulsenJr

the banks are foreclosing on the loans they BEGGED people to take.


39 posted on 09/15/2008 1:33:27 PM PDT by thefactor (contributing nothing of value to threads since 2001...)
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To: Perdogg

You might want to pass on to MSN that that is a rumor about Wachovia. I got the report from them....


40 posted on 09/15/2008 1:33:40 PM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Republicans and Conservatives staying home will give us President Hussein Obama.)
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