Skip to comments.McCain Responds to Obama's Reported Undermining of the Commander-In-Chief During Wartime
Posted on 09/15/2008 5:01:12 PM PDT by Roscoe Karns
McCain Responds to Obama's Reported Undermining of the Commander-In-Chief During Wartime [Andy McCarthy]
The McCain Campaign has issued a statement responding to the report from Amer Taheri (see today's web briefing) that Sen. Obama secretly negotiated with the Iraqi government regarding U.S. withdrawal from Iraq. McCain spokesman Randy Scheunemann stated as follows:
At this point, it is not yet clear what official American negotiations Senator Obama tried to undermine with Iraqi leaders, but the possibility of such actions is unprecedented. It should be concerning to all that he reportedly urged that the democratically-elected Iraqi government listen to him rather than the US administration in power. If news reports are accurate, this is an egregious act of political interference by a presidential candidate seeking political advantage overseas. Senator Obama needs to reveal what he said to Iraq's Foreign Minister during their closed door meeting. The charge that he sought to delay the withdrawal of Americans from Iraq raises serious questions about Senator Obama's judgment and it demands an explanation.
Good. I’m glad to see they’re not letting this slide. They’ve tempered their comments nicely, not sounding accusatory but demanding an explanation.
KEEP UP THE HEAT!
I hope McCain and the rest of us keep pushing this until these questions are answered.
LOL. “Nip me in the bud.” - Perfect.
Yup, just saw John on Fox and Friends, he wasn’t asked about this, and he didn’t bring it up.
Amazing how the Democrats and moveon.org can say horrible things about General David Petraous . . . . and now to find out who the real betrayer is their own the ONE.
I hope and pray their is some audio of this somewhere. Maybe after the Iraqi’s saw Obama on BOR and still not admitting the surge worked and blaming the Iraqi’s they decided to speak out on this.
Which is exactly why he and his buffoon squad... should have stayed home. He has no diplomacy experience... therefore should keep his trap shut. Did he think he could go over there and play games.... and that the Iraqi's (ever so grateful) would do anything for an American pol?
It sounds like it could be illegal.
CG’s concept for that pic.
Not at all. Did it read as sarcasm?
TAHERI ARTICLE ON OBAMA INTERFERENCE IN WITHDRAWAL CORROBORATED BY NY TIMES 6/18/08
New York Times ^ | 6/18/2008 | Jeff Zeleny
Posted on Monday, September 15, 2008 2:58:55 PM by johncocktoasten
Edited on Monday, September 15, 2008 4:59:29 PM by Jim Robinson. [history]
FLINT, Mich. Senator Barack Obama said today he intends to visit Iraq and Afghanistan before the November election.
Mr. Obama, who spoke to the Iraqi foreign minister by telephone this morning, said he was encouraged by the reductions in violence in Iraq. But he said the United States still must begin gradually withdrawing troops, at a pace of one to two brigades a month, with a goal of removing most combat troops in 16 months.
We have no interest in permanent bases in Iraq, Mr. Obama said. I gave him an assurance that should we be elected, an Obama administration will make sure that we continue with the progress thats been made in Iraq that we wont act precipitously, but that we will move to end U.S. combat forces in Iraq.
As Mr. Obama arrived in Michigan for a campaign stop on the economy, he shared details of his morning telephone call with Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari. On Sunday, Mr. Zebari had a face-to-face meeting with Senator John McCain of Arizona, the presumptive Republican nominee.
Among the issues being discussed with the two presidential candidates is the long-term security accord between Iraq and the United States. While the Bush administration would like to see an agreement reached before the summers political conventions, Mr. Obama said today that he opposed such a timetable.
My concern is that the Bush administration, in a weakened state politically, ends up trying to rush an agreement that in some ways might be binding to the next administration, whether its my administration or Senator McCains administration, Mr. Obama said. The foreign minister agreed that the next administration should not be bound by an agreement thats currently made.
Mr. Obama, who has not been to Iraq for more than two years, told the New York Times last month that he intended to visit Iraq. His comments today after talking to Mr. Zebari underscored that desire, saying: I told him that I look forward to seeing him in Baghdad.
Late last month, Mr. McCain invited Mr. Obama to embark on a joint trip to Iraq, a gesture that Mr. Obama dismissed as a political stunt. The Republican National Committee started a clock, keeping track of the days it has been since Mr. Obamas visit in January 2006.
In the nearly 900 days since Barack Obama visited Iraq, the facts on the ground have changed dramatically but his ideologically-driven position has not, said Alex Conant, a Republican spokesman. When Obama visits Iraq, hell see that he was wrong to oppose the surge, wrong to continue to ignore our commanders advice and wrong to demand premature withdrawal.
Today, Mr. Obama did not say specifically when he intended to take his foreign trip.
You know, well make an announcement about that, he said. But as I said, Im interested in visiting Iraq and Afghanistan before the election.
Done and done. I bookmarked the page and made available offline.
We, also, have confirmation from another liberal source of Snobami’s violation of the Logan act in Iraq, MSNBC:
Obama to visit Iraq, Afghanistan Posted: Monday, June 16, 2008 1:41 PM by Domenico Montanaro
Filed Under: 2008, Obama
From NBC/NJs Athena Jones
Obama said today the campaign would be making an announcement as to when, but he said he he wanted to visit both Iraq and Afghanistan before the election in November.
I told him that I look forward to seeing him in Baghdad, Obama said of his conversation with Iraqs foreign minister, Hoshyar Zebari. You know, well make an announcement about that [as to when], but as I said, Im interested in visiting Iraq and Afghanistan before the election.
VIDEO: A Race for the White House panel debates: Are Americans more patient about progress in Iraq?
Obama spoke briefly (about 10 minutes) with reporters about his telephone conversation with Zebari. He said he was encouraged by the progress made in reducing the violence in Iraq, but believed troops should be withdrawn, and they should do so carefully.
Obama also told Zebari, he said, that Congress should be involved in any negotiations regarding a Status of Forces agreement with Iraq. He suggested it may be better to wait until the next administration to negotiate such an agreement.
Asked by NBCs Lee Cowan if a timetable for the status of forces agreement was discussed, Obama said, Well he, the foreign minister, had presented a letter requesting an extension of the UN resolution until the end of this year. So thats a six-month extension.
Obviously we cant have U.S. forces operating on the ground in iraq without some sort of agreemnt, either a further extension of the U.N. resolution or some sort of Status of Forces agreement, some strategic framework agreement. As I said before, my concern is that the Bush administrationin a weakened state politicallyends up trying to rush an agreement that in some ways might be binding to the next administration, whether it was my administration or Sen. McCains administration.
The foreign minister agreed that the next administration should not be bound by an agreement thats currently made, but I think the only way to assure that is to make sure that there is strong bipartisan support, that Congress is involved, that the American people know the outlines of this agreement, and my concern is that if the Bush administration negotiates, as it currently has, and given that were entering into the heat of political season that were probably better off not trying to complete a hard and fast agreement before the next administration takes office, but I think obviously these conversations have to continue. As I said my No. 1 priority is making sure that we dont have a situation in which us troops on the ground are somehow vulnerable to, are made more vulnerable, because there is a lack of a clear mandate.
Please help me here. First, I totally understand interference in negotiations. Second, I don’t understand, though, how interfering in the Status of Forces agreement would delay withdrawal. After research, it seems that the SOFA mainly would outline the legal status of the troops and may identify the particular missions the troops will have. It does not seem to cover force size.
Am I wrong?
Few if any of Snobami’s cult voters believe in the constitution.
If they had their way, he would be king, er, president of the world with no need for an election.
man, McCain isnt boxing with gloves on, is he?
good to hear...keep up the pressure!
Shades of Teddy Kennedy and the Paris Peace Talks with the North Vietnamese. Democrats don’t seem to be able to do Foreign Policy very well, do they?
I think that the Democrats still -- amazingly -- haven't figured out that McCain's camp is handling this election like a war. They're throwing funny ads at Obama like bombs aimed at lines of communication. As a result, Obama has been off-message for almost a month now.
Next I think we'll start seeing the strategic bombing campaign. This incredibly stupid move by Obama may well be the opportunity they need for the opening salvo ... but the "it's a dangerous world, and McCain's the only one ready for the big leagues" theme will be very effective. I mean look ... he's got Russia, Iran, North Korea, and now this (showing Obama's mendacity).
Yes, I think you’ve pretty well summed it up. Obama is in trouble, and I don’t see it getting better from here on out, especially if his team keeps focusing on Palin, a lost cause that has no realistic chance of turning around with these tactics.
Look up “strategic framework agreement”, not SOFA.
Pay attention to the timeframe of Obama’s actions & then read this:
In fact, Obama had told the Iraqis that they should not rush through a "Strategic Framework Agreement" governing the future of US forces until after President George W. Bush leaves office, she said.
In the face of resistance from Bush, the Democrat has long said that any such agreement must be reviewed by the US Congress as it would tie a future administration's hands on Iraq.
"Barack Obama has never urged a delay in negotiations, nor has he urged a delay in immediately beginning a responsible drawdown of our combat brigades," Morigi said.
How is this not a violation of the Logan Act?
A sitting Senator and Presidential candidate for the opposition party is involving himself in negotiations with a foreign government, and urging a course of action different from that of the sitting Administration.
These are exactly the kind of shenanigans the Logan Act is supposed to prevent!
Instead of denying the intial report, the Obama campaign just confirmed it!
How is telling the Iraqis that they should not "rush through" any negotiations different from urging a delay in negotiations?
This is so blatant and irresponsible, and of course Obamamedia is going to cover for him, because no one will grill the campaign on the utter contradiction of this statement, or the fact that Obama has just admitted he has violated the Logan Act.
I truely hope that this is the big, thick, unbreakable nail that is going into the Obama Campaign coffin.
Now that McCain has put a statement out concerning it, I hope it gets picked up by the media. I want to hear some more from the Iraqi leaders and Gen. Patraeus.
While it’s disgusting and reprehensilbe to our men and women in uniform, I sure hope it’s true only so his true colors are exposed for Americans to see.
Welcome to Free Republic. I demand that Obama take a polygraph.
“But Obama’s national security spokeswoman Wendy Morigi said Taheri’s article bore “as much resemblance to the truth as a McCain campaign commercial.”
In fact, Obama had told the Iraqis that they should not rush through a “Strategic Framework Agreement” governing the future of US forces until after President George W. Bush leaves office, she said.
In the face of resistance from Bush, the Democrat has long said that any such agreement must be reviewed by the US Congress as it would tie a future administration’s hands on Iraq.
“Barack Obama has never urged a delay in negotiations, nor has he urged a delay in immediately beginning a responsible drawdown of our combat brigades,” Morigi said.”
This is absolutely traitorous, heinous, and reprehensible! His spokewoman admitted to everything the Obama campaign just denied. They need to be called to the carpet on this one bigtime - in stump speeches, commercials, debates, and possible legal action against Obama.
I also later found some articles in the early July timeframe that say that the Iraqis would not enter into ANY agreement that did not include withdrawal of forces.
So that’s the best I can make out. Delaying the agreement delayed the troop withdrawal guidelines.
I agree with everything you posted.
Unfortunately the MSM doesn’t and it isn’t being picked up yet.
There are many blogs and bloggers that are trying to rectify that as we speak.
This is yet another log piled on top of SNOBama the Moose’s back. I don’t see how it can avoid breaking for much longer.
MoveAmericaForward already has an ad about this up on YouTube. I hope it goes on TV!
Just in case you haven’t seen this . This needs to hit the blogs local papers talk shows...etc
Get ‘em McCain.........
Here’s hoping this incident Swift Boats O.Hussein in the butt and destroys his cjances at the WH.
Even though the Post confirms this today, Drudge has deleted it from his roster.
..City uses DNA to fight dog poop.....:^
Is the Department of Justice investigating, I wonder?