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It's official - England is the MOST crowded country in Europe, thanks to immigration
The Daily Mail ^ | 16 Sep 2008 | Steve Doughty

Posted on 09/16/2008 12:01:02 PM PDT by BGHater

England has become the most crowded major country in Europe, official figures show.

The number of people crammed in has overtaken those in Holland, long the most densely-populated major nation on the continent.

A count released to MPs showed England now has 395 people per square kilometre.

Crowding has increased because of high immigration into England while the Dutch population has fallen or remained steady.

Population growth: Official figures show England has overtaken the Netherlands to become the most crowded country in Europe

Last night MPs who are campaigning for 'balanced migration' said the figures were a milestone in the immigration debate.

Beyond Europe, England's population density is among the highest in the world. Of countries with a population of at least 10million, England ranks third in density after Bangladesh (1,045 per sq km) and South Korea (498 per sq km).

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: aliens; england; eu; eurabia; immigration; uk

1 posted on 09/16/2008 12:01:04 PM PDT by BGHater
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To: BGHater
For comparison, France is 112 per square mile - or only 28% as densely populated as England.
2 posted on 09/16/2008 12:14:35 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who like to be called Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: BGHater

For another comparison, Red China is 140, India is 329 and the US is 31.


3 posted on 09/16/2008 12:18:38 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who like to be called Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: wideawake
My county in Idaho(Bannock) has 68/square mile. That's crowded enough for me.
4 posted on 09/16/2008 12:21:04 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: BGHater
Just for a "fair" comparison, my city (Chubbuck) has 2743/sq mile. Most of the county is mountains with few houses.
5 posted on 09/16/2008 12:23:33 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: wideawake

Yeah, I was under the impression the higher the population density the more crime you had as well as the general health problems associated with it. ie Stress, etc.


6 posted on 09/16/2008 12:25:33 PM PDT by BGHater (Democracy is the road to socialism.)
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To: wideawake

Lol. Don’t include crime/population density link with Singapore though.


7 posted on 09/16/2008 12:28:05 PM PDT by BGHater (Democracy is the road to socialism.)
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To: Myrddin
Interesting exercise.

On a sq km basis - to compare with England - my state is 438, my county is 503, my township is 623 and my town is 409.

8 posted on 09/16/2008 12:30:07 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who like to be called Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: BGHater

Arizona has 56/sq.mi. population density. Makes it nice.


9 posted on 09/16/2008 12:32:01 PM PDT by Mogollon ($5/gal Gas....Kick the Jacka$$es Out!)
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To: BGHater

I don’t know what is going on with the Brits. They use to be a tough people but now they are letting other people take them over. In time, they will be a muslim nation. Is this our future also?


10 posted on 09/16/2008 12:32:49 PM PDT by RC2
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To: BGHater

South Dakota has 10/sq mi, which goes down to about 2/sq mi when you take out the two biggest towns. That’s about right.


11 posted on 09/16/2008 12:34:29 PM PDT by SoDak (Anything but obama)
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To: BGHater
Yeah, I was under the impression the higher the population density the more crime you had as well as the general health problems associated with it. ie Stress, etc.

Not necessarily. Some cities have extremely high population density and very low crime, Singapore for example. I think that corruption is probably the real determinant when it comes to crime. Societies that tolerate corruption nearly always have high crime rates and the more corrupt the society the worse the crime.

12 posted on 09/16/2008 12:35:27 PM PDT by elmer fudd (Fukoku kyohei)
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To: BGHater

Well, Hong Kong and Singapore has 16,000/sq mile. S. Korea has 1,200 pe square mile, and Zimbabwe has 85/sq mi, Haiti has 335 /sq. km (775 / sq mi).

There is not a lot of correlation between population density and wealth. Many of the poorest countries are not denseley populated at all.

England is also blessed with a large percentage of useable land.

The fact that almost 20% of the population lives in or around one city, London, tells me that the country is far from over-crowded.


13 posted on 09/16/2008 12:36:35 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("[Gov. Sarah Palin] is Phyllis Schlafly, only younger." -- Gloria Steinem)
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To: BGHater

As Tony Blair once said about the U.S., “A simple way to take measure of a country is to look at how many want in and how many want out.” This applies here as well.


14 posted on 09/16/2008 12:36:42 PM PDT by stanz (Those who don't believe in evolution should go jump off the flat edge of the Earth.)
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To: elmer fudd

Yeah, see #7.


15 posted on 09/16/2008 12:37:19 PM PDT by BGHater (Democracy is the road to socialism.)
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To: wideawake
Using the sq km basis: Idaho (6), Bannock county (26.3), Chubbuck (1059). The high density is due to trailer parks used to pump up the city population to meet thresholds required for licensing bars. My neighborhood has minimum sq ft requirements for houses. They must be 3500 sq ft or larger. My lot is 1/3 acre. The immediate area is zoned "low density residential". Suffice to say there are some lovely houses on large lots contrasting with very high density trailer parks to achieve the "average".
16 posted on 09/16/2008 12:38:40 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Dr. Sivana
Yeah, I got ya.

However, Asian cultures are more ‘collective’ than ours in many ways. In general, the crime tends to be down, but the flip side allows for more Gov’t power and structure.

17 posted on 09/16/2008 12:41:17 PM PDT by BGHater (Democracy is the road to socialism.)
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To: Dr. Sivana
England is also blessed with a large percentage of useable land.

That's an important point. My city is mostly level with a good aquifer underneath. It's easy to support 2700+ per sq mile. Most of the county is covered with steep mountains. It's fine for hunting and off road vehicle activity. Poor as a place to live. The mountains have snow on them from October to April. Some of the "flat" areas are lava flows. You can't do much on a lava flow.

18 posted on 09/16/2008 12:43:38 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Dr. Sivana
England is also blessed with a large percentage of useable land.

Land that's impossible to build on, due to council control. If you have 100 acres of land in the UK, just try to get permission to build a single family house on it.

The UK has loads of usable land, there's no doubt about that, but that's mostly farms, with the population jammed into cities all throughout the country. Most people live in abysmal row houses, packed tighter than sardines, and the single family house is the exception there.

The fact that almost 20% of the population lives in or around one city, London, tells me that the country is far from over-crowded.

Not true.

While there is a large population around London, which is sprawling in size, one cannot escape the throngs that live along the south to north axis that runs from Southampton to Newcastle (and beyond).

Unless you're in the remotest parts of Scotland and Wales, it's next to impossible to avoid people as well as the unending traffic.

The UK is hemorrhaging its native population, and the two reasons that most ex-pats give for moving out of England (often to France) is 1) overcrowding, and 2) the 'darkening' of its citizenry (being overrun with Muslims).

19 posted on 09/16/2008 12:57:15 PM PDT by Lovely-Day-For-A-Guinness (Eenie meanie, chili beanie, the spirits are about to speak....)
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To: BGHater

Looks like the skipped Scotland and Northern Ireland. They are barren in comparison. Wales is probably close to England.


20 posted on 09/16/2008 1:05:22 PM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: BGHater

Population will increase oer time. So what?


21 posted on 09/16/2008 1:07:45 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: BGHater

This doesn’t include numbers for Scotland, N Ireland, Wales and various small islands. England is far more crowded than the above mentioned,


22 posted on 09/16/2008 1:08:03 PM PDT by Eternal_Bear (`)
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To: Myrddin

Well, Australia as a whole has around 3 per sq km but considering how heavily urbanized we are, once you get out of the capital cities the population density drops big time. The Northern Territory (520,901 square miles or 1,349,129 sq km) has a density (including the capital) of 0.15 per sq km and 0.07 outside of Darwin.


23 posted on 09/16/2008 2:10:28 PM PDT by Dundee (They gave up all their tomorrows for our today's.)
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To: Dundee
All the major cities are on the coast. Averages are pretty deceiving statistics. I like being able to drive 5 minutes and switch from "city" to virtually unpopulated. My front lawn has elk and moose tracks in the snow over much of the winter. Much of the land surrounding the city is potato fields.

Do you take advantage of exploring the "outback"? I've read a few interesting threads from Aussies who enjoy taking their 650cc thumpers out for a long ride. The feedback from those guys (especially tires) has been much appreciated as I get back into that activity.

24 posted on 09/16/2008 2:28:53 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Lovely-Day-For-A-Guinness
My visits to Wales are usually characterized by a beeline from Heathrow to Aberystwyth. Sometimes I stop to visit with friends in Cardiff and Carmarthen. My family lived in Ysbty Ystwyth/Llanfihangel y Creudden prior to about 1863. Most emigrated to the U.S. I still have some distant cousins in Pontrhydygroes. Aber is a pleasant sized town. We walk everywhere until it it time to head to to visit friends in the local villages. My last trip to Cwmystwyth was punctuated with a snow storm. The B roads in that area don't have guard rails, so it was an interesting drive back to Aber.
25 posted on 09/16/2008 2:36:04 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: RC2

...In time, they will be a muslim nation...

And in time, you’ll be a Socialist Republic. Oh, wait, you’re one already.


26 posted on 09/17/2008 10:16:43 AM PDT by Mercia
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