Posted on 09/17/2008 4:02:34 AM PDT by Doctor13
For them ignorance is bliss.
"The Georgian Government has leaked extracts from some telephone conversations which reveal that Russian troops crossed the border into South Ossetia several hours before Tbilisi's military intervention against Tskhinvali got under way."
“Some people prefer to live with their eyes closed and evade the truth at every turn.”
Just because I do not refute some ridiculous assertions does not mean that I or others do not understand, or that we are living with our eyes closed, or that we are ignorant. Your Georgian friend made some spectacular claims. It was Baghdad Bob’esque. For example, it would hardly be difficult to refute his claims that Georgians living in Ossetia were denied the right to vote. One would only need to look at the reports by the international observers, or look at the 95% voter turnout. I am sure that neither of you would accept these facts however. You would likely contrive another incredulous story. Maybe its denial. Maybe he is too close to the situation. He is obviously someone who hates the S. Ossetians and wants them gone. Maybe he is the president of Georgia. I don’t know, but his stories don’t don’t sound reasonable.
You also might wanna check your above post about claims that Russian armor crossed into S. Ossetia prior to the Georgian invasion. Satellite surveillance is more than sufficient to prove this if there is any merit to it. I am sure that the US (or Georgia, or Nato) would immediately post the images, or at least make the claim if it were true.
I doubt I will read or post any more info on this thread. There is too much misinformation here. It all pretty irrelevant anyway since Russia is gonna do whatever it wants, and nobody else is in a position to project any power into the region anyway. Even if we could, it would be a really hard sell to the US people as a just war. It would likely cost the GOP everything in the upcoming election.
Have a nice day.
And thanks for proving my point.
"Georgia also provided audio files of the intercepts along with English translations to The New York Times, which made its own independent translation from the original Ossetian into Russian and then into English."
"But at a minimum, the intercepted calls, which senior American officials have reviewed and described as credible if not conclusive, suggest there were Russian military movements earlier than had previously been acknowledged, whether routine or hostile, into Georgian territory as tensions accelerated toward war."
Calls intercepted from Georgian cellphone network
Plenty more out there for those who really want to know the truth. Obviously you do not.
I have seen way to many groundless statements, but you have surpassed anything! US department of state acknowledged that their satelites were not monitoring the situation in a briefing held in Tbilisi. I simply cannot hate Ossetians (dude, get into your head, there is no such thing as S. Ossetians) because I have relatives you are Ossetians, neighbors who are ossetians, best friend who’s mother is Ossetian. the 95% turnout you are referring to was recorded by Russians, the ONLY monitoring entity there and was recorded ONLY in villages that were under control of Kokoyty - how about other villages that did not even have polling stations there? If you do not want to read more posts here - it’s up to you - as I told you, cannot grad you out of your shell!
Probably Russian.
I really do not know - it’s possible, although I think it’s unlikely: I think this is more like someone who has Russian friends, heard some stories and never bothered checking the veracity thereof.
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