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Local man runs generator on tap water (Hydrogen)
www.lovelycitizen.com ^ | 09/18/2008 | Don Lee

Posted on 09/18/2008 10:24:42 AM PDT by Red Badger

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To: Cyclone59
point 75 in and 22 coming out. Quite impressive

Impressive that he has guts enough to claim that. He's counting on ignorance to make his 'invention' look good. The currents (amps) are totally meaningless without specifying the voltages at which those amps are flowing.

I can easily put half an ampere into a transformer and get a full ampere out. That doesn't mean that I've 'created' half an amp of current, though. What I've more likely done is applied 220 volts to a 220-110 stepdown transformer. Total power on each side is roughly the same even though the current has doubled.

161 posted on 01/28/2009 10:31:10 AM PST by Bob
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To: MainFrame65; Fatuncle
"grow selected oil-producing algae in closed reactors fed with waste industrial CO2, harvest the oil, and feed it into oil refineries for processing into hydrocarbon fuels."

Sounds similar to the plans of Sunflower Electric in S.W. Kansas until the 'powers' nixed the permits. Still in court...

162 posted on 01/28/2009 1:05:29 PM PST by Dust in the Wind (Just part of the cleanup crew.)
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To: Red Badger

I choose to disbelieve.

To make power from water, let it fall off a cliff onto turbine blades


163 posted on 01/28/2009 1:14:30 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . The original point of America was not to be Europe)
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To: DonaldC

I am his agent and can get you in early...... Want to invest?


164 posted on 01/28/2009 1:15:54 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . The original point of America was not to be Europe)
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To: LeGrande

I NEVER said “energy for nuthin”. We strictly obey the laws of Thermodynamics in this house! I learned as a child that there is no such thing as a free lunch. If you would please read my previous posts, and quit acting the troll, you would see that I stated as such.

A simple google-quest for plasma gasification should answer your questions. If your too lazy to do your own research, I’m to busy to respond to your trolling.


165 posted on 01/28/2009 1:49:50 PM PST by rallen
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To: thackney
Al Gore, you get off that contraption right now! You been sitting in one
place for two days now.
166 posted on 01/28/2009 1:57:50 PM PST by MaxMax (I'll welcome death when God calls me. Until then, the fight is on)
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To: DonaldC
Where did you see that, according to the guys numbers what goes in is way lower than what it produces.<

It's basic chemistry and physics. It takes FAR MORE ENERGY to break down water into hydrogen and oxygen then you can get by burning them again. Sheesh. TANSTAFL
167 posted on 01/28/2009 2:04:26 PM PST by Kozak (USA 7/4/1776 to 1/20/2009 Requiescat In Pace)
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To: DonaldC

So, the guy has violated the laws of thermodynamics and invented a perpetual motion machine.

I don’t care what he says. It takes a certain amount of energy to split water, and you get a certain amount back when the hydrogen oxydizes (burns). The system would have to be over 100% efficient for this thing to “work”.


168 posted on 01/28/2009 2:08:33 PM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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169 posted on 01/28/2009 2:28:02 PM PST by Focault's Pendulum (I'm selling my tagline on Ebay Buy it Now! $1.95...S&H $14.95...only 3 left.)
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To: Red Badger

170 posted on 01/28/2009 2:33:56 PM PST by Focault's Pendulum (I'm selling my tagline on Ebay Buy it Now! $1.95...S&H $14.95...only 3 left.)
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171 posted on 01/28/2009 2:36:27 PM PST by Focault's Pendulum (I'm selling my tagline on Ebay Buy it Now! $1.95...S&H $14.95...only 3 left.)
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To: MrB

Many of these same arguments were used to ‘debunk’ atomic and nuclear energy claims in the early part of the last century.

How does a nuclear power plant operate independently, being a net producer of power, after startup? Short answer - it is converting massive amounts of stored energy from the fuel.

Can an internal combustion engine create enough electricity to continue to spark the combustion process while providing net power output? Of course - cars and generators do it daily.

Yes, it is true that energy can neither be created nor destroyed, but the analysis must include the whole energy equation - and the crux of the problem lies in calculating and then exposing stored energy. Many hydrogen test projects over the years have shown promising results based on the distinct stored energy within the hydrogen bond.

I don’t have nearly enough information to evaluate this particular project, but the concept of converting the stored energy of water/hydrogen into useful power is viable in theory. The practicalities of harnessing the energy in a viably efficient manner has been the stumbling block to date.


172 posted on 01/28/2009 2:46:41 PM PST by BlueNgold (... Feed the tree!)
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To: rallen
I NEVER said “energy for nuthin”. We strictly obey the laws of Thermodynamics in this house! I learned as a child that there is no such thing as a free lunch. If you would please read my previous posts, and quit acting the troll, you would see that I stated as such.

Here is what you posted to me.

Reports indicate that energy requirements for continuous operation are normally 2/3 of the output.

Basically what you are saying is that the energy needed to separate the H2O is 2/3'rds of the energy that you get from burning the separated gas.

That is the definition of a perpetual motion machine and is a clear violation of the laws of Thermodynamics. You seem to be under the impression that the presence of a catylyst changes the rules.

173 posted on 01/29/2009 2:17:18 PM PST by LeGrande (I once heard a smart man say that you canÂ’t reason someone out of something that they didnÂ’t reaso)
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