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FEMA Says No to Ice For Hurricane Survivors
ABC News ^ | September 18, 2008 | MEGAN CHUCHMACH

Posted on 09/18/2008 4:14:29 PM PDT by Pinkbell

Hurricane survivors are being put at risk in Texas and other hot weather states because the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) is no longer providing ice in relief situations, say watchdogs, relief workers and local leaders in Hurricane Alley.

Chad Lavergne searches through his home, destroyed by Hurricane Ike, in search of documents and personal items, in Bridge City, Texas, Tuesday, Sept. 16, 2008. Hurricane survivors are being put at risk in Texas and other hot weather states because the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) is no longer providing ice in relief situations, say watchdogs, relief workers and local leaders in Hurricane Alley.

"It's frustrating that the government can deliver $85 billion to bail out AIG, and they can't deliver ice in Texas," said Ben Smilowitz, executive director of the Disaster Accountability Project (DAP), a nonpartisan organization that monitors the nation's disaster response system.

In fact, while the federal government can deliver ice to disaster areas, it's chosen not to, under newly-revised FEMA rules. Instead, individual states and local governments are now tasked with purchasing, delivering and storing ice, even though they face tough logistical challenges in doing so, according to critics of the new policy.

"FEMA is effectively saying we can't guarantee you ice," said Mike Womack, director of the Mississippi Emergency Management Agency.

Besides preserving food when electricity is out, ice is essential in maintaining temperature-sensitive medication and feeding formulas and keeping people cool in the aftermath of disaster, relief and support workers say.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: fema; hurricaneike; ice
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1 posted on 09/18/2008 4:14:29 PM PDT by Pinkbell
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To: Pinkbell

Maybe Rove can configure his weather machine to produce an ice storm for them.


2 posted on 09/18/2008 4:19:27 PM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: Pinkbell

Uh....

Ice is not something that makes sense to truck from a central repository across the country. It’s easy to make, just apply refrigeration and power to water.


3 posted on 09/18/2008 4:20:36 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Pinkbell

Also, this is a thinly veiled hackjob on the Ike relief efforts. Pretty stupid, especially since in Texas it’s not actually hot right now, and apparently most people desiring ice are using it to chill food they should have eaten already anyway.


4 posted on 09/18/2008 4:21:57 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Pinkbell

When there’s no electricity ice is nice.


6 posted on 09/18/2008 4:24:58 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Pinkbell
Two weeks ago, before Ike but after Gustav, my wife was driving cross Louisiana and discovered there were no hotel rooms available from Lafayette to the border with Mississippi. She was told that all rooms were blocked for weeks by FEMA, for use by the adjusters.

The same must be true now for Texas. Give each FEMA employee a large ice chest and have them fill it up before leaving their hotel on their disaster rounds, their first stop being an ice distribution point. That way Ice will be distributed to all in need.

7 posted on 09/18/2008 4:27:36 PM PDT by Brian S. Fitzgerald
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To: Pinkbell

"No soup....uh, ice for you!!!


8 posted on 09/18/2008 4:27:44 PM PDT by Viking2002 (A man who never quits is never defeated.)
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To: Viking2002

I have never cared for Seinfeld, but that episode is funny.


9 posted on 09/18/2008 4:30:36 PM PDT by Pinkbell (”This guy is a jerk, an arrogant jerk. A Jerk Messiah.” - Rush talking about Obama)
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To: Pinkbell
Well maybe they can wire them some ice ...

If ice is the only problem they have, I say live with it. Water is something entirely different and anyone in hurricane areas knows it is your responsibility to buy a couple of 5 gallon cans to store an adequate supply in ... Doesn't everyone know?

10 posted on 09/18/2008 4:31:55 PM PDT by Tarpon (Three things matter when selecting a President - character, character and character.)
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To: Pinkbell

And everyone knows that NO ONE lived in Texas in the 1800s prior to ice machines existing! I mean, the heat would just kil... Oh, wait, what? Really?

Never mind...


11 posted on 09/18/2008 4:36:38 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: Tarpon

The problem is that some of them need it to keep medications they have to take cold.


12 posted on 09/18/2008 4:44:13 PM PDT by Pinkbell (”This guy is a jerk, an arrogant jerk. A Jerk Messiah.” - Rush talking about Obama)
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To: Pinkbell
It is true that a lot of ice went to waste during Katrina, but I think that was mostly due to distribution problems. However, in Houston distribution is very efficient and FEMA is giving out tons of ice every day. Power will be out for a long time in some areas, and eating MRE's gets old fast. Ice is needed for some prescription drugs and things like baby formula will also spoil if not kept cool. We don't need to have people getting sick on top of all our other problems.

Actually, a little ice helps everyone keep their cool.

13 posted on 09/18/2008 4:48:09 PM PDT by smokingfrog (God doesn't wear a wrist watch.)
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“FEMA Says No to Ice For Hurricane Survivors”

No, the article says they can not guarantee ice. It is needed for food, medicine, etc. People lived without ice well into the 20th century.

14 posted on 09/18/2008 4:51:13 PM PDT by JSteff
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Ice is not something that makes sense to truck from a central repository across the country.

That was my first thought as well.
15 posted on 09/18/2008 4:51:53 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Voting Conservative isn't for the faint of heart.)
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To: Pinkbell

If that is true, and my wife is one of those, you should buy dry ice at the local store before the storm. It will keep in a cooler cool for a long time ...

Around my place they continuously broadcast warnings that you may be a week without any help ... get prepared.


16 posted on 09/18/2008 4:52:26 PM PDT by Tarpon (Three things matter when selecting a President - character, character and character.)
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To: cripplecreek

Yeah... considering that there are commercial icemaker trucks and semitrailers that one can rent, and one *does* normally truck in water (which makes sense if the water supply in an area is compromised)... it makes more sense to crank out ice on a local basis.


17 posted on 09/18/2008 4:55:10 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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"It's frustrating that the government can deliver $85 billion to bail out AIG, and they can't deliver ice in Texas."

That is a truly stupid comment. Money transfers are bookkeeping, inconveniencing a small number of electrons, and a large number of taxpayers. To deliver ice requires water, refrigeration, roads, trucks, gas, manpower, and distribution points.

18 posted on 09/18/2008 5:00:18 PM PDT by Fatuncle (Of course I'm ignorant. I'm kind of stupid, too. Teach me.)
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To: Pinkbell

I live in League City. You can buy ice at the grocery store today. You could buy it yesterday in League City. If I can buy ice at the store, I don’t need FEMA to give it to me.

In fact, except in places like Galveston, things are pretty much getting back to normal. Maybe not optimum, because stores have not fully restocked and traffic lights are down, but at least livable. You can get gasoline without waiting in lines. I can make it without eggs for a few days.

We got power back yesterday evening, three days after the rest of the neighborhood. (A transformer was damaged on my block.) Neighbors let us put bags of ice in their freezer to keep our coolers chilled. The ice in our freezer had not yet melted (mainly because the wife unit had frozen a big three gallon container of water in it last Monday), so we got by.


19 posted on 09/18/2008 5:03:18 PM PDT by No Truce With Kings (The opinions expressed are mine! Mine! MINE! All Mine!)
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To: Pinkbell

Got any ice left over from Katrina?


20 posted on 09/18/2008 5:23:17 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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