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UAS pilot gap becomes top priority for USAF
Flight International ^ | 19 September 2008 | Stephen Trimble

Posted on 09/19/2008 7:26:42 PM PDT by Yo-Yo

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1 posted on 09/19/2008 7:26:43 PM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: Yo-Yo
UAV 2 UAV Re-Fueling
2 posted on 09/19/2008 7:30:39 PM PDT by gaijin
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I went through AF pilot training in ‘77-’78. If someone had told me that after all that.....I’d be flying a remotely-controlled vehicle like some sort of freakin’ video game (not that we had them back then...)...I’d have been livid.

Now with that said, don’t misunderstand; I clearly see the battlefield value of UAV’s. They’re incredible weapons platforms. I’m addressing the human element.

If you haven’t gone through the grind of pilot training, you can’t fully understand.


3 posted on 09/19/2008 7:31:29 PM PDT by RightOnline
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To: Yo-Yo

Offer cash bonuses for trainees, conditional that they complete the program. Recruit from college campuses offering degrees relevent to the job requirements.


4 posted on 09/19/2008 7:31:44 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (If Islam conquers the world, the Earth will be at peace because the human race will be killed off.)
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To: RightOnline

Does one really need full blown pilot training to “pilot” a UAS? I’d guess not. Considering how much it costs to train a pilot, this seems like a real waste.


5 posted on 09/19/2008 7:45:37 PM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: RightOnline

The USAF continues to insist that UAV operators be rated officers. Why not open up UAV operator to non-rated officers and senior NCOs?

The US Army has a Warrant Officer program for helicopter pilots. Why can’t the Air Force revive their long dead Warrant Officer program for UAV pilots?

These 100 new graduates will spend their first tour as UAV pilots, which is an average of four years. At the end of that tour they will have to repeat basic flight just to get requalified.


7 posted on 09/19/2008 7:47:30 PM PDT by Yo-Yo
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Why must AF UAV pilots be rated pilots?

The Army has many Warrant Officer helicopter & fixed wing pilots.

The Army has enlisted and NCO UAV pilots.

There were many Sgt pilots in WWII.

I know someone who’s daughter is headed for pilot training soon and she will not be happy if she is flying a box in a room somewhere.


8 posted on 09/19/2008 7:47:50 PM PDT by jim-x (God help America survive its enemies within.)
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To: F15Eagle

Someone who is good at MS Flight Simulator and a combat aircraft videogame could be easily trained to pilot UAV’s.


9 posted on 09/19/2008 7:48:40 PM PDT by Thunder90
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Second, the USAF will launch a distinct pipeline for UAS operators on a trial basis that will recruit from the ranks of active pilots and perhaps even retirees.

Opportunity knocks.

10 posted on 09/19/2008 7:49:01 PM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: Clintonfatigued

There were a lot of disappointed pilots who ended up as RIO’s. It would help if you had a pipeline for those people seperate from manned aircraft.
I flew drones in VN...but never was a pilot until I left the service. There are still people out there who would love to serve where they could fly UAVs.


11 posted on 09/19/2008 7:50:45 PM PDT by Oldexpat (Drill Here, Drill There..we must drill everywhere.)
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Why can’t enlisted personnel fly these? There have been enlisted and “flying sergeants/petty officers” since the beginning of military and naval aviation. Or perhaps start a warrant officer program in the USAF like the Army has for rotary aircraft.


12 posted on 09/19/2008 7:52:04 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Barack Obama: In Error and arrogant -- he's errogant!)
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Do they actually need a fully-qualified pilot for these things? I mean the big one, I could understand. That’s an expensive machine. But the smaller ones seems like it wouldn’t require such sophisticated training.

I say yes, because the UAV will sometimes be flying in "traffic" where the pilot will have to worry about other planes around like when they are in a landing pattern. They won't need to be fully trained fighter pilots though. And I see no reason why every pilot has to be an officer.

13 posted on 09/19/2008 7:52:53 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (The break-in of Gov. Palin's email account is the equivalent of the Watergate break-in.)
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>>>a critical shortage of pilots to operate unmanned air systems

oxymoron?

:))


15 posted on 09/19/2008 7:54:01 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Aeronaut

ping


16 posted on 09/19/2008 7:54:32 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: RightOnline

Perhaps the air force should transfer the UAV program to the army. I believe that both the army and marines use enlisted personnel as UAV pilots and have dedicated training programs.


17 posted on 09/19/2008 7:55:01 PM PDT by PAR35
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Here is a 2005 paper that advocates a dedicated UAV career field. The author argues (correctly) that a dedicated UAV pilot recruited from non-rated junior officer ranks would allow retention of experienced UAV pilots, making the program stronger.

At the Crossroads: Future “Manning” for Unmanned Aerial Vehicles

Nonrated officers would have more motivation to fly a combat UAV than the MWS pilots the Air Force currently uses. If implemented, the program would also allow the retention of an experienced cadre within the UAV community to work future planning issues and/or serve in leadership positions such as squadron commander. Currently, at the end of a Predator pilot’s three-year tour, he or she quickly resumes flying a manned MWS. Other UAV communities, such as the RQ-4A Global Hawk and the X-45 UCAV, could capitalize on the experience that pilots will acquire in the Predator program. Furthermore, having the opportunity to move to other UAV programs would enhance career progression and increase command opportunities for Predator pilots.

18 posted on 09/19/2008 8:06:19 PM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: Yo-Yo
Thanks for posting.

I just sent an e-mail to my brother-in-law, a Naval aviator, that is retiring this year.

"You get to fight a war and blow up bad guys with Hellfire missiles from the comfort of an air-conditioned computer station in Colorado."

After three tours in Iraq, this is one tour the wife be happy about.

19 posted on 09/19/2008 8:06:33 PM PDT by Polybius
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Exactly why they don’t need Pilots. All those strenuous physical and vision requirements for them can get sh#t canned. They need people who are temperamentally suited to the demands of the UAS’s guys who LIKE the idea of the worlds greatest video game....


20 posted on 09/19/2008 8:10:33 PM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: There is no god named Allah, and Muhammed is a false prophet)
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