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CBS Poll: Uncommitted Voters Say Obama Won (but they remain uncommitted)
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Posted on 10/07/2008 11:23:42 PM PDT by Chet 99

CBS Poll: Uncommitted Voters Say Obama Won

Oct. 8, 2008(CBS) Uncommitted voters named Barack Obama as the winner of the second presidential debate as well, according to a CBS News/Knowledge Networks poll.

Immediately after the debate, CBS News interviewed a nationally representative sample of 516 debate watchers assembled by Knowledge Networks who were "uncommitted voters" - voters who are either undecided about who to vote for or who say they could still change their minds. Forty percent of these uncommitted debate watchers said Obama won the debate, 26 percent said John McCain won, and another 34 percent thought it was a tie.

In a similar poll conducted after the first debate, uncommitted voters also thought Obama was the winner.

The economy is now the most pressing national issue, and the first hour of the debate focused on economic questions. Uncommitted debate watchers see Obama the clear winner on handling the economy -- not only were his ratings on this issue higher than McCain's after the debate, but Obama also gained more from the debate on this issue.

Before the debate, 55 percent thought Obama would make the right decisions about the economy -- that rose to 68 percent after the debate. Before the debate, 41 percent of uncommitted voters thought McCain would make the right decisions about the economy -- his rating on this measure increased to 48 percent after the debate.

The town hall format of this debate provided the candidates with an opportunity to connect with voters, and Obama was viewed as doing a much better job at that than McCain did. After the debate, nearly twice as many said Obama understood their needs as said McCain did. Both before and after the debate, majorities of uncommitted voters felt that Obama understands their needs and problems. And Obama rose far more than McCain did on this measure.

But when it came to the war in Iraq, which some voters asked about during the debate, McCain was the stronger candidate -- an advantage that has been consistent in CBS News Polls for many months. Before the debate, 55 percent of uncommitted voters said that McCain would make the right decisions about the war -- that rose to 61 percent after the debate. Less than half thought Obama would make the right decisions on Iraq.

Asked what they learned from the debate, many of those who thought Obama won volunteered that Obama was knowledgeable and specific on the issues - some mentioned his understanding of foreign policy, health care, and country's energy needs. Many felt that McCain was short on specifics, and was more negative and angry.

Voters who thought McCain won the debate said he was more candid and passionate. They felt that Obama didn’t give direct answers, and that McCain was more to the point.

About one in three watchers said they learned nothing from the debate.

McCain and Obama continue to have very different strengths. Uncommitted voters who watched the debate saw McCain as more prepared to be president. Seventy-seven percent said that about McCain before the debate and that rose to 82 percent after the debate. As for Obama, 42 percent said that before the debate and 58 percent said so afterwards.

However, Obama is seen as the better candidate on bringing about change. Fifty-one percent said that before the debate, and 63 percent said so afterwards. Thirty-eight percent said McCain would bring real change after the debate, compared to 23 percent beforehand.

The town hall format of the debate allowed voters to ask questions of the candidates directly, but many uncommitted voters watching the debate weren't entirely satisfied with the candidates' responsiveness.

More than four in 10 uncommitted voters thought each candidate sidestepped some of the issues voters raised at the debate. Forty-two percent thought Obama did not answer the questions he was asked, 43 percent said that about McCain. But 57 percent thought each candidate answered the questions put to him.

Forty-two percent of those uncommitted voters who watched the debate said that their image of Obama changed for the better as a result. Just 13 percent say their opinion of Obama got worse, and 45 percent reported no change in their opinions.

McCain's image also improved - 32 percent said their image of him improved as a result of the debate, but 16 percent said their views of him are now worse than before.

Ultimately, few uncommitted voters' minds were made up as a result of this debate, according to the poll. Immediately after the debate, 15 percent of them said they are now committed to Obama, and 12 percent are now committed to McCain. But most - 72 percent - remain uncommitted.


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1 posted on 10/07/2008 11:23:42 PM PDT by Chet 99
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Ultimately, few uncommitted voters' minds were made up as a result of this debate, according to the poll. Immediately after the debate, 15 percent of them said they are now committed to Obama, and 12 percent are now committed to McCain. But most - 72 percent - remain uncommitted.

Anyone else tired of the media pandering to these attention whores? Such drama queens.. make a pick already..

2 posted on 10/07/2008 11:24:30 PM PDT by Chet 99 (Vote McCain/Palin, or this will be our future: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTb5EFZmgbs)
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But when it came to the war in Iraq, which some voters asked about during the debate, McCain was the stronger candidate -- an advantage that has been consistent in CBS News Polls for many months. Before the debate, 55 percent of uncommitted voters said that McCain would make the right decisions about the war -- that rose to 61 percent after the debate. Less than half thought Obama would make the right decisions on Iraq.

It seems like a game changing foreign crisis would be helpful right about now. Israel? GO hit Iran...

3 posted on 10/07/2008 11:25:21 PM PDT by Chet 99 (Vote McCain/Palin, or this will be our future: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTb5EFZmgbs)
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To: Chet 99

Not worth the toilet paper used to wipe up the bunghole this article came from


4 posted on 10/07/2008 11:25:37 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Chet 99

Uncommitted voters should be committed.


5 posted on 10/07/2008 11:27:12 PM PDT by The_Republican (Conservatives are in trouble because they hate Scarlett Johanson.)
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To: Chet 99

Uncommitted not because they wont vote for McCain, but because they do not trust Obama!!

we really need to push the secret life of Obama...and his connections to Kenyas Odinga!!!

Whooooo boy wait till they see this one on the news...

they will be voting, but like the rest of us it wont be for McCain....IT WILL BE AGAINST OBAMA!


6 posted on 10/07/2008 11:27:33 PM PDT by Texas4ever ( Who is the real Obama?)
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To: pissant

This is a big... HUH?????


7 posted on 10/07/2008 11:28:31 PM PDT by antceecee (McCain ~ Palin '08!!!!! May God have mercy on and protect us from evil.)
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To: Chet 99

Obama won no votes.

So he lost.

He needed to increase his margin, and he failed.


8 posted on 10/07/2008 11:29:33 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Chet 99

9 posted on 10/07/2008 11:29:56 PM PDT by weegee (Obama's a uniter?"I want you to argue with them (friends,neighbors,Republicans) & get in their face")
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To: Chet 99

It’s all about presentation. Obama looks more forceful than McCain and he is a smooth talker. He’s getting the percentage of the population that doesn’t care about answers or policy or experience...you know the kind. They are the ones who make their decision based on really important things, like how a person pronounces NUCLEAR.


10 posted on 10/07/2008 11:30:00 PM PDT by I'm ALL Right! (Joe Biden: The Michael Scott of politics)
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To: Chet 99
Uncommitted voters are thick-headed ninnies. I'm sick of them and their stupid questions. What don't you know, and what are you going to do to learn it?

I want to hear from rough and tumble, sleeves rolled up, down in the mud partisans. That's how we'll get a serious and interesting debate.

11 posted on 10/07/2008 11:30:22 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Reagan is back, and this time he's a woman.)
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To: Chet 99
Remember the uncommitted voters CBS had for Palin’s debate?
They were admittedly all leaning Obama BEFORE the debate..LOL

Can anyone find the elusive news paper, or poll from a MSM outlet that has declared the republican the winner of a debate?
Anyone?

12 posted on 10/07/2008 11:30:42 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: Chet 99

I guess those are the folks that would have bought aluminum siding to put on a brick house from that guy.


13 posted on 10/07/2008 11:31:22 PM PDT by Always Independent
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To: Chet 99

During the primaries, the “townhall” audiences were packed with Democrat staffers and established political activists.

Anyone spot any politicos in the audience of “uncommitted voters”?


14 posted on 10/07/2008 11:31:35 PM PDT by weegee (Obama's a uniter?"I want you to argue with them (friends,neighbors,Republicans) & get in their face")
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To: weegee

I would love to see them busted at their unsavory game.


15 posted on 10/07/2008 11:32:32 PM PDT by antceecee (McCain ~ Palin '08!!!!! May God have mercy on and protect us from evil.)
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To: Chet 99

Who are these “uncommitted” “undecided” “swing” voters anyway?

Seriously. If a person doesn’t give a rip about politics, why would he/she agree to be part of a political debate-watching poll?

Are they paid for their time, because how else are they enticed into participating in a topic that obviously isn’t of great interest to them.

I have no opinion on whether one brand of tin foil is better than another. Because of that, I would not waste half a day preparing to attend an hour and half discussion about tin foil and another hour or two sitting around weighing the pros and cons of the tin foils.

And like someone else already said, I’m sick of these people who don’t care enough to form an opinion being paid so much attention. Will they even bother to vote at all, given their lack of convictions?


16 posted on 10/07/2008 11:33:05 PM PDT by KJC1
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To: Chet 99
If it's a draw, then Obama wins. Since he's the better looking and more charismatic of the two, he just wins on appearances. Same thing with Palin and Biden. Since she was far more attractive and likable, she would have won the debate even if she hadn't done as well as she did.

Debates really aren't about arguing, they're just popularity contests. Whoever comes out looking cooler is usually the winner.

17 posted on 10/07/2008 11:34:53 PM PDT by elmer fudd (Fukoku kyohei)
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To: I'm ALL Right!

(A) I don’t have a tv now. I’ll probably get it fixed sooner than later to continue watching DVDs etc. but for now I watch them on a laptop.

(B) I listen to the debates on radio. Also makes it possible to FReep during a debate. Even home viewers who are doing something else other than staring at a tv have a virtual radio.

(C) people say that McCain “looks” angry. Only if you are watching the screen. Same with the bogus talk of Palin “winking” and “seducing” the audience. She wasn’t winking at me.

(D) Jimmy Carter was a nuclear scientist and he couldn’t pronounce the word. It is a common gaffe. Other commonly transposed or mispronounced words are jewelry (not jewlry) and caramel (not carmel).


18 posted on 10/07/2008 11:36:03 PM PDT by weegee (Obama's a uniter?"I want you to argue with them (friends,neighbors,Republicans) & get in their face")
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To: Chet 99

The East German judges have now weighed in. Has a Republican EVER won one of these post-debate snap polls?


19 posted on 10/07/2008 11:36:07 PM PDT by kesg
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To: Chet 99
Anybody who does not know what they want before I get to the drive-up window is subject to getting whatever I order for them .
20 posted on 10/07/2008 11:37:13 PM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it freedom has a flavor the protected will never know F/8 Cav)
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To: Texas4ever
serious question ... do you think that Obama's connection to Odinga, if it were widely known, would be THE game changer?

And a follow up ... do you think that the average voter cares bout his connection/ support for Odinga?

21 posted on 10/07/2008 11:38:30 PM PDT by sofaman (Moses dragged us through the desert for 40 years to the one place in the ME with no oil - Golda Meir)
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To: Chet 99

It’s amazing how CBS polled voters are so anxious to pay more taxes (support 0bama).


22 posted on 10/07/2008 11:40:09 PM PDT by Post Toasties (It's not a smear if it's true.)
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To: sofaman

Not the average voter. The undecided voter.

Appearance is everything, the grand illusion is over!


23 posted on 10/07/2008 11:40:14 PM PDT by Texas4ever ( Who is the real Obama?)
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To: kesg

That’s a darned good question.


24 posted on 10/07/2008 11:40:18 PM PDT by KJC1
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To: sofaman

I think it would be.

I called Hannity today and asked about it. He suggested he might do another special.

He’s also going to reair the Hannity’s America from Sunday as it got blockbuster ratings and I think will help make people see what a radical leftist Marxist racist thug Obama is.


25 posted on 10/07/2008 11:42:15 PM PDT by PowerPro (McCain/Palin FTW)
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To: Chet 99

“whose tax plan is better?”
“well I like the plan by the marxist with terrorist ties a bit but I think the health care plan of the war hero is a bit better. I am so confused.”


26 posted on 10/07/2008 11:42:33 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Betcha they're good. Why shouldn't they be? Their one mistake was giving up me!)
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To: Chet 99

These are people who have no principles. They take pride in that fact and many articles are written about them. They are the center of attention every four years in America.

They remind me of little fish. They swim in a big school together and switch directions at the slightest real or imagined movement. They swim furiously in circles. They leave few lasting impressions on the world around them. Inevitably, the stronger fish eats them and continues towards the destination of it’s own choosing.

Wow, I really need to go to bed...... : )


27 posted on 10/07/2008 11:42:38 PM PDT by volunbeer (Dear heaven.... we really need President Reagan again!)
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To: weegee

Give those tips to the 18-24 year olds out there. Video generation, easily swayed by visual images. Not much in the way of doing research.


28 posted on 10/07/2008 11:42:56 PM PDT by I'm ALL Right! (Joe Biden: The Michael Scott of politics)
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To: Chet 99
there is no such thing as an uncommitted voter.....unless they are brain dead....

they swing one way or the other they just like the attention of being uncommitted...

29 posted on 10/07/2008 11:44:33 PM PDT by cherry ( chinese crisis: danger vs opportunity......we have opportunity!)
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To: pissant
LOL

Your the best pissant.....

30 posted on 10/07/2008 11:54:28 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: PowerPro
Glad to hear that he's running his special again. It was a very good report. Congrats on getting onto the show.

BTW, did you see Obama's thug, Gibbs, (I think he's the ObaHamas campaign's communications thug, accuse Sean of being an anti-Semite tonight after the debate? Believe it or not, Alan Colmes came to Sean's defense. He hit a very raw nerve with that show and the Obamanistas are in a panic over the Ayers association.

Regarding Odinga, there would have to be a fair amount of background to establish the context. I can just see the eyes glazing over ...

31 posted on 10/07/2008 11:55:09 PM PDT by sofaman (Moses dragged us through the desert for 40 years to the one place in the ME with no oil - Golda Meir)
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To: volunbeer
These are people who have no principles. They take pride in that fact and many articles are written about them. They are the center of attention every four years in America. They remind me of little fish. They swim in a big school together and switch directions at the slightest real or imagined movement. They swim furiously in circles. They leave few lasting impressions on the world around them. Inevitably, the stronger fish eats them and continues towards the destination of it’s own choosing.

I couldn't agree more. It reminds me of pregnant women who find out the sex of the unborn child but won't reveal the sex of the child to family and friends until after it is born for no other reason but attention.

I believe these people know who they are voting for. They just want people to inquire about it after election day and say "sooooo who did you vote for?" and then they can say "like, omg, it was such a hard decision, but I had an ephinany and......"

32 posted on 10/08/2008 12:01:47 AM PDT by babydubya1981 (Homeschooling Moms for McCain/Palin 08)
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To: Chet 99
Can anyone please show me a MSM poll saying that a Republican won a Presidential debate?
33 posted on 10/08/2008 12:08:18 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Sarah Palin 08 12 16 20)
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To: Chet 99

It seems as if the most pressing issue for Americans seems to change monthly, like they are moving the goal posts further down field. One month it is Iran. The next month it is Iraq. The next month it is gas prices. Now it is the economy.


34 posted on 10/08/2008 12:08:33 AM PDT by jonrick46
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To: Chet 99
The economy was the most important issue to the Germans before they voted Hitler into power. You have to care about a man's connections and principles. Anyone can say anything that sounds good when they want to be elected but their track record and associations will let you know who they really are and who you will be getting for president.

The track record Obama has is that of a bad voting record of consistantly voting for higher taxes, voting against the surge, and as an Illinois state senator pushing to allow killing survivors of abortion. His limited experience is high lighted by his working as a "Chicago inner city organizer" which really amounted to promoting ACORN, a far left organization that often acts in illegal ways to get votes for liberals. Obama worked as a lawyer for ACORN to force banks to give out loans to people who banks knew should not get them and were unlikely to pay them back. He also worked to promote an educational program to teach kids to rebel against their parents and authority. This is to name to name just a few relevant facts about his past track record and associations. To go into the whole lot of them would take much greater time and space then this. If you don't pay attention to who a man is at is core you may very well end up with Hitler, even in America.

35 posted on 10/08/2008 12:14:43 AM PDT by Bellflower (A Brand New Day Is Coming!)
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To: Chet 99

McCain has to talk “moommy talk” to connect with women and fearful men.

Bush in 2000 was good at expressing how he cares about women and the middle class.

He has to tell stories so that people know he feels their pain.


36 posted on 10/08/2008 12:15:34 AM PDT by Finalapproach29er (Democrats still want to get Pres. Bush and/or VP Cheney; there might be show trials in Feb09)
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To: Finalapproach29er

I’d like a presidential candidate to tell these idiots to pull themselves up from their bootstraps like all great Americans have had to do.


37 posted on 10/08/2008 12:19:43 AM PDT by Chet 99 (Vote McCain/Palin, or this will be our future: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTb5EFZmgbs)
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To: Chet 99

These people are annoying attention whores.


38 posted on 10/08/2008 12:20:53 AM PDT by cw35
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To: Chet 99
I said it before, anyone who is "uncommitted" at this point is either retarded or a liar.

I don't care much what retards and liars think.

39 posted on 10/08/2008 12:25:29 AM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: Chet 99
"Uncommitted Voters" = Oversampled Democrats
40 posted on 10/08/2008 12:26:28 AM PDT by T Lady (The Mainstream Media: Public Enemy #1)
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To: Chet 99

I turn the channel when they come on.

I don’t need them to tell me what I should think.

I’m tired of them. They should fire all of them.


41 posted on 10/08/2008 12:27:31 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: sofaman

About Odinga...

Not necessarily. For a few reasons.

Firstly, I’ve seen an 8 minute video that encompassed the entire issue nicely. If framed correctly, an hour would do more than justice to this issue.

Secondly, Jerome Corsi makes it more contemporary since he just today was detained in Kenya over this issue in part since he was in Kenya to expose Obama’s ties to Odinga.

Apparently Corsi will be on Hannity and Colmes Wednesday(?) to talk about his experience.

I think it will be a real eye opener for those who don’t understand why a Kenyan official is extremely relevant in determining who we choose to serve as our next president.


42 posted on 10/08/2008 12:28:40 AM PDT by PowerPro (McCain/Palin FTW)
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To: Chet 99
Ultimately, few uncommitted voters' minds were made up as a result of this debate, according to the poll. Immediately after the debate, 15 percent of them said they are now committed to Obama, and 12 percent are now committed to McCain. But most - 72 percent - remain uncommitted

There is still a lot of uneasiness about Obama even though the Liberals think he already won the election the people do not.

43 posted on 10/08/2008 1:19:58 AM PDT by Lady GOP
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To: The_Republican
hahahahahahahaha!!!!

Post of the evening!!!!!!!

44 posted on 10/08/2008 1:27:22 AM PDT by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them.)
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To: PowerPro
If Sean's show is getting awesome ratings, then I am very hopeful for America's future this November.

Christmas will come very early for this Soldier if I see Sarah and John win.

45 posted on 10/08/2008 1:29:20 AM PDT by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them.)
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To: KJC1

Do we believe anyone at this stage of this election is still uncommitted to a candidate?

Those who reamin undecided have no grasp of the important
issues facing this country nor do they care.

style over substance.


46 posted on 10/08/2008 1:29:31 AM PDT by ChiMark
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To: Rome2000
LOL!

:D

47 posted on 10/08/2008 1:30:02 AM PDT by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them.)
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To: Prole

Survey USA are such cheating barstards.

They did their usual poll of who won the debate in the state of Washington, they wanted the result they wanted i guess.

Obama 54%
McCain 29%

Who did they ask for a sample 40% Dem 21% Repub and 39% indie

McCain never stood a chance.


48 posted on 10/08/2008 2:10:06 AM PDT by sunmars
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To: sunmars

I am surprised that BS poll didn’t give Obama a 1000% approval rating, and give McCain a .0093% approval rating.


49 posted on 10/08/2008 2:11:39 AM PDT by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them.)
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To: Chet 99

uncommitted are just like independents; democrats.


50 posted on 10/08/2008 2:17:46 AM PDT by NoLibZone (Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac - are not facing any kind of financial crisis,'' Barney Frank 9-10-03)
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