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Stealing Pennsylvania: Judge says "Massive Fraud" (ACORN at it again)
Copyright 2008, The American Spectator ^ | Published 10/10/2008 4:09:45 PM | By Jeffrey Lord

Posted on 10/10/2008 2:08:36 PM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines

A retired Pennsylvania Supreme Court Justice says that she is "not confident we can get a fair election" in the state come November.

Justice Sandra Newman, accompanied by Dauphin County District Attorney Edward Marsico and Pennsylvania Republican State Chairman Robert Gleason, expressed her concerns at a Harrisburg press conference this morning. A thick document replete with photo copies of phony registrations and aerial shots of vacant lots used as "addresses" for "voters" was handed out to journalists.

Gleason was even more explicit.

"Between March 23rd and October 1st, various groups, including ACORN, submitted over 252,595 registrations to the Philadelphia County Election Board" with 57, 435 rejected for faulty information. "Most of these registrations were submitted by ACORN, and rejected due to fake social security numbers, incorrect dates of birth, clearly fraudulent signatures, addresses that do not exist, and duplicate registrations. In one case, a man was registered to vote more than 15 times since the Primary election."

"Voter fraud is no longer just a Philadelphia problem," Gleason said, with ACORN targeting key counties across the state.

(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.org ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: 2stealelection; acorn; corruptdems; newman; obamatruthfile; pa2008; presidentbyfraud; ruling; sandranewman; sandynewman; thedeadwillvoteagain; thekenyanway; unamaerican; unamerican; votefraud; voterfraud; zombiemessiah
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To: ladyvet
I was thinking that McCain has nothing to lose. GET AFTER THESE BASTARDS! At least if you don’t win you’ll die with your boots on.

THIS IS WAR!

101 posted on 10/10/2008 3:03:55 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: davek70

The article says 57,000 of 250,000 have been thrown out. Probably need to throw out a lot more,especially when you count the ones that have been registered in the past and are still on the rolls. Amazing how dead people can get up and make it to the polls and mail those absentee ballots!


102 posted on 10/10/2008 3:07:53 PM PDT by calex59
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To: NOBAMA in 08

I have a question. We have all these people registered to vote whose address is a vacant lot, registered multiple times etc etc.

That adds to the list of registered voters, but there is no PERSON attached to those registrations to actually cast a vote, so how can this skew the election? I know I am going to feel really dumb when I get an answer but I just can’t figure out how that can be turned into votes.


103 posted on 10/10/2008 3:09:30 PM PDT by Hanna548
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To: pallis

Thats precisely the point! In all likelihood there will be no more Free Elections! remember, Hugo Chavez is Bill Ayer’s Hero and Osama Obama Bin Ladin HUSSEIN is Ayer’s Puppet. Obambi has to read his words from the teleprompter or else:-)


104 posted on 10/10/2008 3:10:43 PM PDT by NOBAMA in 08 ( OBIE HUSSEIN IS A CORRUPT,DECAYED BRAIN and BODY with NO Redeeming Value!)
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To: Zeppelin

Maybe the policy has changed, but I think it originally was to ensure people were confident in pulling out and using their card without being hassled. Also, the security is better if you’re not giving license info, etc., to the retail clerk who has your card.


105 posted on 10/10/2008 3:11:00 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: calex59

When you think how these elections turn on a few hundred votes in a few states, it really is amazing what’s being perpetrated.


106 posted on 10/10/2008 3:13:18 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Hanna548

I’ll give you an answer that will make you feel better after you follow it’s directive!:

THINK!

There, now that wasn’t too hard figuring out how they do it, right!


107 posted on 10/10/2008 3:13:26 PM PDT by NOBAMA in 08 ( OBIE HUSSEIN IS A CORRUPT,DECAYED BRAIN and BODY with NO Redeeming Value!)
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To: Fred Nerks
Obama or someone in his campaign briefly suggested a few days ago that he be allowed to take over immediately or govern with Bush after his (Obama’s) win, and I think this is all directed at doing exactly what happened in Kenya (an election campaign in which Obama was very much involved)...

I find that arrogant and SCARY!

108 posted on 10/10/2008 3:13:26 PM PDT by stayathomemom ( nowanemptynester)
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To: K-oneTexas
I don’t get the govern ‘jointly’, no where in the Constitution does it mention such a thing

Its right after the section that legalizes social security and just before the section that says the government can invest taxpayer money in companies run by CEOs who play golf with senators.

109 posted on 10/10/2008 3:16:05 PM PDT by Technogeeb (The only good Russian is a dead Russian. Rest in Peace, Solzhenitsyn.)
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To: Hanna548

If you have a ticket, you can ride the bus.

The idea is someone is gonna use them to vote and many locations. Stuffing the ballot box.

That is why it is so important to have a PICTURE ID and a valid registration to match before allowed to vote.

We are too lax — if proven fraudulent. Seize all records and prevent their use!!


110 posted on 10/10/2008 3:16:23 PM PDT by Colonial Warrior (Never approach a bull from the front, a horse from the rear, or a fool from any direction.)
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To: Hanna548
If the fake registrations are not caught prior to the election, that person with 15 different registrations can vote 15 different times on election day.

In my 55 years of living in PA, I was never once asked for any ID when I went in to vote. Name and address was sufficient.

I was pleased to see in the 2004 general election that we had to provide photo ID at the polls here in rural MD. No one grumbled about it either. I personally think that should be a requirement to vote (tax bill receipt would be even better, but I realize that goes against the constitution .... )

111 posted on 10/10/2008 3:16:25 PM PDT by Abby4116
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To: 9YearLurker

AORN saying they can’t control their workers is like John Gotti saying he couldn’t control Sammy “the bull” Gravano

When will there be a RICO case built? If ACORN doesn’t qualify then I believe J. Edgar Hoover was right when he said there was no mafia.


112 posted on 10/10/2008 3:16:31 PM PDT by Nichevo ("It isn't positions which lend men distinction, but men who enhance positions.")
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To: livius

You know... He probably engineered it this way on purpose - anything to cause more disruption, more strife, and to TAKE power rather than EARN it. Just another form of entitlement mindset.

Things will be a tad bit different here than in Kenya though, the Communist _____ can count on it!

Do you recall anything more about the campaign person or Obama and what was said regarding proposal of “joint” governing directly after the election?


113 posted on 10/10/2008 3:21:41 PM PDT by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ Pro-Palin & NObama Gear : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: Hildy

You know Hildy, you and I have disagreed before. You are exactly right.

I am ready to roll, are you? lets roll....


114 posted on 10/10/2008 3:22:40 PM PDT by dforest (Is there any good idea out there that Obama doesn't lay claim to anymore?)
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To: 9YearLurker

That’s not what I was taught as a cashier, or what I taught my cashiers as a Supervisor when I worked in retail. We were to always check the signatures on the cards with the signature on another form of identification.


115 posted on 10/10/2008 3:24:02 PM PDT by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ Pro-Palin & NObama Gear : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: The Duke

Conflict. Exactly what Obama wants. Just like Kenya.


116 posted on 10/10/2008 3:25:06 PM PDT by Chaguito
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To: LibertyRocks

Checking signatures, yes. Taking driver license #’s and such, if I recall correctly, wasn’t permitted.


117 posted on 10/10/2008 3:25:47 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: LibertyRocks

Checking signatures, yes, but from the card to the signed receipt. This may have changed, and maybe it changed before you worked as a cashier.


118 posted on 10/10/2008 3:27:34 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

...it’s bad when Pa libs thinks that left wing activists groups have gone too far...


119 posted on 10/10/2008 3:28:55 PM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Obama for President!)
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To: keepitreal

YES, that will cure most of the problems.


120 posted on 10/10/2008 3:28:58 PM PDT by annieokie
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

and the RATS, take another one in the.................................HA ha!!!

121 posted on 10/10/2008 3:29:04 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - McCain/Palin'08 = http://www.johnmccain.com/)
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To: LeonardFMason

There is a RICO case being investigated by the FBI in relation to this. It is supposedly being co-ordinated by Patrick Fitzgerald in Chicago, IL. These actions were NOT limited to certain states. ACORN is in all states in one form or another.

You can look up the keyword RICO here at FR, and see the articles about the investigation and such. Word had it the other day that there were possible indictments not only against ACORN, but extending into Obama’s campaign, and even Pelosi, Reid, and Dean. I need to look and see if that info. has been updated.


122 posted on 10/10/2008 3:30:33 PM PDT by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ Pro-Palin & NObama Gear : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: P-Marlowe

I fear that’s what the commies are planning, and have been planning for a while... Carville is even intimating the same.


123 posted on 10/10/2008 3:31:26 PM PDT by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ Pro-Palin & NObama Gear : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: 9YearLurker

hmmm...good points...

thanks for the info!


124 posted on 10/10/2008 3:31:59 PM PDT by Zeppelin (Keep on FReepin' on...)
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To: Fred Nerks
The Kenya pattern seems to be at the source of Obama's Alinsky strategy in his campaign , as you say.But the problem is that we are not tribal Kenyans in America. I believe that is a mistaken assumption that Obama is about to find out about.

The " Masses" of America are not the "Masses " of Kenya.

The Republic demands that.

125 posted on 10/10/2008 3:32:56 PM PDT by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, ( member NRA)
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To: Abby4116; NOBAMA in 08; Colonial Warrior

I was thinking thank you very much. Man you people can be viscious. I have never been to a polling place and I don’t know how it works there. We have always had absentee ballots. I did not realize that people don’t have to prove who they are when they vote at the poll.


126 posted on 10/10/2008 3:34:39 PM PDT by Hanna548
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To: All

The only hope we have is to inform the rest of the “asleep” public via the MSM. If McCain doesn’t speak up we’re all going to be in a lot of trouble here... If we can push this even in the press overseas first if we have to (like in Britain) then our MSM HAS to cover this. They cannot pretend to ignore this. Do they all want this to end up like Kenya? Do they want to live under a Soviet-style Government? I can’t believe that ALL MSM Journalists want to live that way...

They can help stop it if they would just STAND UP! To all those newspaper editors and every businessman - where will you go with no money and no business? The businessmen in Venezuela who were able to escaped here — WHERE WILL YOU GO TO? The time is NOW, and we need to demand this be covered by the MSM. Heck, it should be breaking news, and these things should be pre-empting the regularly scheduled programs.


127 posted on 10/10/2008 3:36:36 PM PDT by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ Pro-Palin & NObama Gear : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: NormsRevenge
"Good God, Shutdown ACORN, Now!"

Well, who then would distribute your money to poor Blacks to vote for the Democrats?

128 posted on 10/10/2008 3:37:44 PM PDT by blam
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To: LibertyRocks
I fear that’s what the commies are planning, and have been planning for a while... Carville is even intimating the same.

Has Carville come to the conclusion that Hillary was most likely a victim of this same voter fraud machine?

129 posted on 10/10/2008 3:40:31 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: indylindy

ACORN has a website, think in NC, that claims it registered 1.5 million new voters. Looks like 90 plus percent are bogus.


130 posted on 10/10/2008 3:40:54 PM PDT by Lumper20
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To: indylindy
"DC needs a giant hose taken to it. Time to start over and throw these people in prison."

Organize it.

I'll come with my 'pitch-fork' in hand.

131 posted on 10/10/2008 3:41:17 PM PDT by blam
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I just copied this and e-mailed it out to all my friends.

How PA goes, so goes the whole election.


132 posted on 10/10/2008 3:41:47 PM PDT by airborne (Don't pray that God is on your side. Instead, pray that you are on God's side!)
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To: Hanna548

You have to realize what kind of a mood people are in around here. People can be viscious I won’t lie, but people are angry right now — very, very angry. So, right now, the likelihood of getting a snippy answer is going to be radically increased. Try not to take it too personally, ok?

Things are really tense here right now because we’ve all seen what happened in Kenya and we don’t want to see our beloved country ripped apart like their was, or end up like the USSR. Also, a lot of the people here (not sure about the ones who answered you) but a lot of people here have loved ones, and family members, and friends, and even themselves who have bled and died for this country to protect the things that Obama is threatening to take away. And, if WE, the US, falls, the world is basically screwed.


133 posted on 10/10/2008 3:43:00 PM PDT by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ Pro-Palin & NObama Gear : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Who put ACORN into the housing bill?? (McCain, names please!)
Why did BO give ACORN 800k?
What are the Governors doing to guarantee a legitimate election in those 15 states?


134 posted on 10/10/2008 3:43:36 PM PDT by oiler (Reagan Republicans Unite!!!!! "Not gonna forget. Not gonna forgive." I'm MAD TOO Palin/Jindal 2012)
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To: NormsRevenge
Good God, Shutdown ACORN, Now!

You don't get it, SHUT DOWN OBAMA NOW!

Let's see, he didn't know that Radical Muslims were meeting with one in his group

He CAN NOT provide a valid birth certificate that proves he was born in the United States, he can't provide a pledgo to reinstate his citizenship after he was raised in a Muslim home in Indonesia, he says he didn't work for ACORN but we all know that's BS

http://www.obamacrimes.com/

He didn't know that William Ayers was a domestic terrorist.

He says that he launched his political career at Ayer's house but that another politician arranged it BUT the other politician was there BUT SHE DID NOT ARRANGE the meeting at Ayer's house! This clown can lie as much as he wants and the media is not going to tell the truth about Martin Luther King's successor.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvROBLortBQ

ANY of these should shut the liar down but the MSM gives him a pass.

135 posted on 10/10/2008 3:43:49 PM PDT by BILL_C (Those who don't understand the lessons of history are bound to repeat them!)
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To: P-Marlowe

Not that I know of... I only read his comment about what might happen if Obama lost... Some were saying it was a threat, and seeing as he was always in Hillary’s corner, I was thinking it was more of a warning - as in: This is what those jerks are planning.


136 posted on 10/10/2008 3:44:18 PM PDT by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ Pro-Palin & NObama Gear : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Voter fraud, a biased/abetting media, Marxist/terrorist associations, phony contributors, ever-expanding government.

Is there a tipping point?

137 posted on 10/10/2008 3:44:19 PM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: LibertyRocks

I understand that, but there is no one that is more scarred than I am or more angry. I love my country to the death. I guess I am a little sensitive too, not wanting to be bitten and at the same time wanting to bite.

Thing is, if we don’t understand something we cannot explain it to someone else, so I ask. I don’t mind showing my ignorance, and I seek to change it, thats all.

I have family overseas, I have children and grandchildren that are going to inherit the country we leave them, and I do not want that country to be one run by the likes of Obama.


138 posted on 10/10/2008 3:48:54 PM PDT by Hanna548
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To: pallis

It will be like those communist countries. People will get to vote, but people will either be forced to vote for Obama and/or he’ll win on a landslide.


139 posted on 10/10/2008 3:49:19 PM PDT by Pinkbell (”This guy is a jerk, an arrogant jerk. A Jerk Messiah.” - Rush talking about Obama)
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To: 9YearLurker

Oh, you’re right... No numbers recorded and kept in relation to that... I’m trying to think of what we did for returns and such though. Can’t remember at this moment (it was a few years ago).


140 posted on 10/10/2008 3:49:32 PM PDT by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ Pro-Palin & NObama Gear : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: blam

Geesh. Where do we begin. I make invitations. I guess we set a day, start from west to east, have pick up points for people and move on them, pitchforks in hand. Maybe some tar and feathers to boot.

Sends spasms of adrenaline just thinking about it.


141 posted on 10/10/2008 3:53:48 PM PDT by dforest (Is there any good idea out there that Obama doesn't lay claim to anymore?)
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To: Roccus

I’ll be working at the polls, so I’ll be watching to see that everything goes smoothly. There are supposed to be an equal number of Republicans and Democrats working at each precinct (at least in my county). Hopefully Republicans across the country working at the polls will be watching. I’m working in a primarily suburban, Republican district, so I don’t think we’ll have problems with fraud. The primaries went very smoothly.


142 posted on 10/10/2008 3:54:18 PM PDT by Pinkbell (”This guy is a jerk, an arrogant jerk. A Jerk Messiah.” - Rush talking about Obama)
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To: NOBAMA in 08

So Bush should have won Pennsylvania then?


143 posted on 10/10/2008 3:55:39 PM PDT by Pinkbell (”This guy is a jerk, an arrogant jerk. A Jerk Messiah.” - Rush talking about Obama)
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To: Hanna548

Sorry, I meant to put /s/ after mine for sarquasm. But was the other explanation helpful? if not, will be glad to answer more:-) Unfortunately some of us get it thru Trial by Fire by living in the corrupt areas where they will pull anything to steal power and protection for their Friends.


144 posted on 10/10/2008 3:55:58 PM PDT by NOBAMA in 08 ( OBIE HUSSEIN IS A CORRUPT,DECAYED BRAIN and BODY with NO Redeeming Value!)
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To: School of Rational Thought

Sadly, you are likely right.


145 posted on 10/10/2008 3:56:26 PM PDT by Pinkbell (”This guy is a jerk, an arrogant jerk. A Jerk Messiah.” - Rush talking about Obama)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; All

rest of article:

“Asked whether the Pennsylvania State Democratic Party had come forward to work with the GOP on the ACORN voter fraud issue, Gleason tersely shook his head. One source did say that much of the impetus for the fraud was “an Obama effort,” as opposed to the Democratic Party as an institution.

All of this brings Pennsylvania into focus as yet another key battleground state where a serious effort is being made to, bluntly put, steal the presidency in a move reminiscent of the attempts made by the 2000 Gore campaign in Florida. Just as ACORN’s efforts have been directed at key electoral states such as Florida, Colorado, Missouri, New Mexico Ohio, and Wisconsin, so within Pennsylvania have its efforts been targeted at key Pennsylvania counties. For decades the internal electoral math of the state for Republicans has been to overwhelm the heavy Democratic vote in Philadelphia and Pittsburgh with strong showings in the Philadelphia suburbs, Central Pennsylvania, and western counties outside Pittsburgh.

Thus have ACORN’s fraud efforts — those at least that have been detected — been directed at Philadelphia (where increasing the Obama total to counter less enthusiastic support from white ethnics becomes critical), Delaware County in the pro-GOP Philadelphia suburbs, Dauphin County (in the heart of Central Pennsylvania) and Erie in the Northwest.

Is it really possible that the presidency could be stolen for Obama by virtue of a massive voter fraud here in Pennsylvania? And elsewhere? ACORN seems to think so. One so-called “non-partisan” ACORN member, Gleason pointed out, has been captured on video tape saying the group’s objective was to “beat McCain down.” Not exactly “non-partisan” sounding, is it?

Newman, the retired Supreme Court Justice, was blunt on the evidence: “I don’t want a president who does this.”

ACORN clearly does. Makes you wonder: why?”


146 posted on 10/10/2008 3:57:00 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: livius

That is the same strategy Obama was telling Odinga to do.

That is why Odinga is so important. Odinga ran on the hopey changy thing too. Gee, who was behind that?

Obama and his buddies like Ayers, are going to steal this election and submit all of us to their agenda.


147 posted on 10/10/2008 3:58:33 PM PDT by dforest (Is there any good idea out there that Obama doesn't lay claim to anymore?)
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To: Pinkbell
This is all part of the The Obama/ACORN/Gallup/MSM Kenyan 2-Step Campaign Strategy

Here's how this works. Obama knows he's going to lose. So he gets ACORN to drum up millions of fraudulent Dem voter registrations. It doesn't matter that most of these fake registrations will never be used to vote, the idea is to inflate the number of Democrat voter registrations. This has been going on for over a year now.

Next, the pollsters say, Wow, look at all these new Dem registrations. We better re-weight our polling samples to compensate. Some polls do this innocently and you can see their internals. Other polls are in on the game and won't show you their internals. The re-weighted polls then naturally show Obama ahead, and the ones showing the biggest lead are the ones that keep their internals secret.

Carville, Mathews, Oberman, and the rest of the MSM then start saying that if Obama loses the election while the polls show him winning, there's gonna be riots.

Meanwhile, Obama plants fake agitators at McCain rallys to shout violent, anti-Obama soundbites. The media then dutifully reports that McCain supporters are calling for violence against Obama.

Obama decries the violent nature of McCain supporters and gets his followers worked up, ready for a fight. Obama loses the election as he expects... Shazam! Obama supporters riot the day after the election.

Will there be as much murder and mayhem here as there was in Kenya after Odinga lost the election? Will Obama be able to wrest control of the U.S. government through this strategy like his cousin Odinga did in Kenya? Remains to be seen.

148 posted on 10/10/2008 3:58:45 PM PDT by EarlyBird (Don't listen to the socialist propaganda: McCain will win easily.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I think we’ve moved beyond tinfoil hats - maybe the full tinfoil bodysuit...


149 posted on 10/10/2008 3:59:05 PM PDT by livius
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To: stayathomemom

Obama has spent his life looking for self-definition. But as Palin said in an early speech, “the Presidency is not a journey of self-discovery.”


150 posted on 10/10/2008 4:01:03 PM PDT by livius
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