Skip to comments.Stealing Pennsylvania: Judge says "Massive Fraud" (ACORN at it again)
Posted on 10/10/2008 2:08:36 PM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
A retired Pennsylvania Supreme Court Justice says that she is "not confident we can get a fair election" in the state come November.
Justice Sandra Newman, accompanied by Dauphin County District Attorney Edward Marsico and Pennsylvania Republican State Chairman Robert Gleason, expressed her concerns at a Harrisburg press conference this morning. A thick document replete with photo copies of phony registrations and aerial shots of vacant lots used as "addresses" for "voters" was handed out to journalists.
Gleason was even more explicit.
"Between March 23rd and October 1st, various groups, including ACORN, submitted over 252,595 registrations to the Philadelphia County Election Board" with 57, 435 rejected for faulty information. "Most of these registrations were submitted by ACORN, and rejected due to fake social security numbers, incorrect dates of birth, clearly fraudulent signatures, addresses that do not exist, and duplicate registrations. In one case, a man was registered to vote more than 15 times since the Primary election."
"Voter fraud is no longer just a Philadelphia problem," Gleason said, with ACORN targeting key counties across the state.
(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.org ...
If that is the case, how did Obama ever become the nominee? I mean I was shocked that he even stayed in the race long enough to remember his name a year from now.
There is all this talk about what a racist country this is. It sure doesn’t look like that to me with him as a presidential candidate.
Thank you, Excellent!
Oh! The Brooklyn Bridge just popped up on the Ebay Auction Block, better hurry before it’s gone:-)
If the FBI or any other authorities have this evidence, they should proceed with their investigations.
Remember Napoleon’s remark —
“Never ascribe to malice what can be adequately explained by incomptence.”
My take on ACORN - another stupid program designed by overeducated stupid people. “Let’s give money to winos to register poor people; the winos get a little money, the poor people get the vote.”
Anyone with half a brain could see what happened next — winos falsifying registrations so they can cash in for another bender.
It’s not a diabolical master plan — it’s just stupidity.
Kenya was the trial run, and we are next. Candor, please read this comment. Deja vu January.
Livius - I wasnt saying it was desperate - that it seemed desperate.
So do the federal investigations taking place in several states also seem desperate to you?
So, you are saying here that you are GOING to vote for Obama? When you say “party lines” what do you mean? This is not JUST one election we are talking about - it is threats of violence against citizens if he does NOT win. This threatens EVERY party in the US and he already took down one major party. He is a communist through and through. I don’t think there are many, if any here that has ever said George Bush has not made mistakes, nor McCain for that matter - however, Obama does NOT have the best interests of our country at heart, and we’re talking short-term time here till 3rd parties, and the GOP are basically shut out completely.
The picture and the words
should, just as they are
comprise an RNC & McCain & GOP State (all) and GOP House and Senate campaign ads
placed in every media venue
It’s not that I don’t agree with what you’ve said in this post, at least.
ACORN needs to be dissolved. There is no legitimate purpose for the organization.
And I do think there’s a massive conspiracy to steal the election. The earlier attempts in 2000 and 2004 didn’t work, because they were really small-potatoes efforts that were coordinated after the fact (when the lawyers arrived).
That was pre-Ayers. Alinsky spent years figuring out ways to get around elections, but he died before he could really pull it off. His disciple, Ayers, has been maturing and gaining power and finally found exactly what he needed, a blank slate, Obama, who furthermore had some pretty unsavory connections on his own and was what Ayers had always wanted to be, namely, at least somewhat black.
This election has been a long time in the making. Hillary Clinton was defeated by the Ayers/Obama strategy last year and she didn’t even know what hit her. Obama had set up training camps for his volunteers months before the primaries and she obviously just dismissed this. We can’t afford to do the same now.
Wait a second... You do realize that you are repeating Obama’s talking points on this subject, right? (All except the comment about letting the FBI proceed of course! LOL)
LOL! Looks good to me!
I could agree to voter fraud being a capital offense.
It’s the highest order of treason against the country.
No, I think the investigations are great, but I don’t think they’re going to be in time to be of much help. With less than a month to go, they really don’t have time to do much investigation and certainly not enough time to go through and eliminate all the mail-in voters, etc. who have already voted fraudulently or the ones who will do so when early voting opens in a week or so.
I don’t think it seems desperate for McCain to call attention to this, though. I don’t think it will do much good, but if he does call attention to it, perhaps it will be easier to oppose whatever strategy Obama has planned for the next step.
There's reason this comes up NOW is because the fake registrations have just started pouring into county offices right before the final deadlines. If you are trying to pump thousands of bogus registrations into the mix you don't have them just trickle in where they might be caught easier, you dump them all at once as close to the deadline as you can get in order to bury the county election registrars' staffs in so much work they can't spare the time to closely inspect the applications and they give up and just accept them and issue cards to the addresses. Sometimes temps are hired just prior to the election to help with the load, so more inexperienced staff will be handling the registrations the close you get to d day, meaning fewer opportunities for each staffer to notice that more than one appication in a stack has the same handwriting, ink color, names, addresses, etc.
The deadlines are mostly up, the registrars have received the load, and the alert ones that are doing their jobs are now spotting fakes, and so it's now news.
The problem is, much of the fraud is going to slip right on by anyway. While an address given by a voter might be spotted as fake in a rural county because the registrar may personally know who really owns and rents the property, in urban areas it's just not going to get noticed because in cities there are just too many people, people move too much and registars just can't know all their "neighbors" or know all the truly vacant addresses.
No, its definately both. There are many that are simply not intelligent enough to see it, and those blinded by their bias, but there is clearly a plan at work to destroy freedom and our form of government, with the ultimate goal being the erradication of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
Which they promptly threw in the trash without opening it. Obama will win this election through voter fraud. That alone will push him over the line in states like MO, PA, MI, MN, VA, etc. You know the game plan, if you cannot win fair, cheat, cheat, lie and cheat some more. They KNOW that is the only way they will ever win is by cheating.
CNN: ACORN fraud and ties to Obama
Posted on 10/10/2008 8:26:04 AM PDT by flyfree
Barack Obama And The History Of Project Vote
(Obama: “I’ve Been Fighting Alongside ACORN...”
You Tube | March 21, 2008 | BarackObamadotcom
Posted on 10/09/2008 4:13:36 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
Video: Stanley Kurtz on Obama, ACORN,and the CRA
(financial collapse started with ACORN)
hotair.com | September 30, 2008 | Ed Morrissey
Posted on 09/30/2008 2:06:55 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
Obama Caught In Outright Lies Over ACORN
strata-sphere | Published by AJStrata at 12:26 pm
Posted on 10/10/2008 9:37:44 AM PDT by Perdogg
Obama camp downplays payments to ACORN
Washington Times | Friday, October 10, 2008 | S.A. Miller
Posted on 10/09/2008 6:55:26 PM PDT by Red Steel
Barack Obama’s Involvement with ACORN Unearthed, Missing Article Recovered
Cleveland Leader | 10/9/08
Posted on 10/10/2008 11:10:18 AM PDT by truthandlife
Dr.Stanley Kurtz Connects Obama,Ayers, Acorn to Fannie/Freddie Collapse!
Bill Bennett’s Morning In America | 10/10/2008 | Curth
Posted on 10/10/2008 11:36:56 AM PDT by curth
Obama, ACORN & Their Starring Role in the Mortgage Crisis
The New Media Journal | Oct 10, 2008 | Frank Salvato
Posted on 10/10/2008 10:27:09 AM PDT by NewMediaJournal
ACORN Watch, Pt II:
Obama hid $800,000 payment to ACORN through “Citizen Services, Inc.”
MichelleMalkin.com ^ | 8-22-08 | Michelle Malkin
Posted on 09/21/2008 3:00:38 PM PDT by GeeMoney
John Mcain Ad - “Acorn”
Youtube | Oct 10, 2008 | JohnMcCain.com
Posted on 10/10/2008 11:48:42 AM PDT by JPII Be Not Afraid
McCain’s Chilling Dance With the Dark Side
(Washington Post does not like McCain Ad about Obama )
Washington Post | October 10, 2008; 12:27 PM ET | Jonathan Capehart
Posted on 10/10/2008 3:00:43 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
House Resources panel’s minority report disputes majority’s oil and gas findings
Oil & Gas Journal | October 10, 2008 | Nick Snow
Posted on 10/10/2008 7:20:57 AM PDT by thackney
The Unmasking Of Senator Obama
The Bulletin | October 10, 2008 | Herb Denenberg
Posted on 10/10/2008 8:35:47 AM PDT by jazusamo
Dozens killed in Pakistan bombing
(Taliban strikes against tribesman raising forces against them)
BBC | , Friday, 10 October 2008 20:40 UK | BBC Staff
Posted on 10/10/2008 2:34:37 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks Ernest, neverdem, and unspun!
November 2008 — Be There!
Sign me up as one of your club! - This is for keeps folks; there are no re-runs.
Exactly, ES, and well put.
My take on ACORN - another stupid program designed by overeducated stupid people.
Lets do a little connect the dots . . .
Leader and founder of the radical cult ACORN (Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now) - a nationwide activist network engaged in "community organizing" and in voter mobilization drives for George Soros' Shadow Party
Former draft-resistance activist for the Students for a Democratic Society (SDS)
Former activist in the National Welfare Reform Organization (NWRO) and protegé of its founder George A. Wiley Co-founder of the Tides Foundation, along with Drummond Pike.
Currently serves as Board Chairman of the Tides Center and member of the Tides Foundation Board of Directors
Founded Local 100 of the Service Employees International Union (SEIU) in New Orleans and heads it to this day.
Rathke is president and co-founder of SEIU's Southern Conference and a member of SEIU's national executive board. He also helped launch the United Labor Union (ULU), which organizes low-skill service workers.
Rathke chairs the AFL-CIO's Organizers Forum and formerly served as Secretary-Treasurer of the Greater New Orleans AFL-CIO.
Wade Rathke is one of the most powerful - yet least known - of America's hard-Left activists. As leader and founder of America's largest radical group, ACORN; co-founder and chairman of the Tides Center; board member of the Tides Foundation; executive board member of SEIU and chairman of the AFL-CIO's Organizers Forum, Rathke exerts influence over three major chokepoints of leftist power: radical foundations; radical public-sector unions; and activist foot-soldiers in the streets.
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This website is a very valuable resource for how all the left over communists of the 60's have engrained themselves into labor, academia, government and charitable organizations. And I believe they have found a candidate who encompasses all their values and who they are pushing for with every dollar and connection they can. I think it is a diabolical plan.
Exactly. The only way to stop this is to get some media folks to start shining a light on the over-weighted polls. There are many blogs that are doing this, but we need FoxNews, Hannity, etc. to broadcast about it. We want as few people as possible surprised by Obama's loss.
Obamas talking points ?
Obama says that ACORN hires winos who then falsify registrations? Really? Who knew?
He strikes more the sort that feels that “the winos earn money from registering poor people, who then vote to provide rehabilitation care for the winos who registered them.”
Let the circle be unbroken - Kumbaya!
Why do you think it is not a conspiracy to steal the election?
You have a point about timing. However, this was whole mess was investigated by Republicans and “no intent to influence an election was found.”
I’m upset that my taxes are funding this nonsense. Most of these fraudulent “registered voters” never voted; the winos just took the money and drank.
That I agree with. But good luck with that. It's not just the winos, you know. I was being (just a teeny bit) facetious. It's all the unemployed aunts, uncles, special needs relatives of politically-connected Democrats that get a cut. If they feel so motivated to register poor people, let them volunteer to do so.
Because ACORN is a taxpayer funded organization who PAYS chronically umemployed people - think winos, the funny uncle who lives in the back room - to register poor people to vote.
The rationale is that these winos earn a little money and much-needed self-respect by empowering poor people.
Looks good on a PowerPoint slide.
Of course, what happens is that these unemployed types don't do the hard work to actually contact unregistered people. Surprise! They falsify registrations!
Then ACORN or the Registrar reject the applications and it is fraud. But, this is very different from a coordinated intent to sway an election.
ACORN needs to go, or at least, reformed to the point they stop paying for registrations.
What we need is a single, national voting system—a computerized system that is only used in voting for president. Every citizen receives a voter id card from the government that they use like an ATM card to work the machine. Each card, once used, cannot be used again. Those who are ambulatory, but who will not be present on election day can receive an absentee ballot only by presenting themselves and their card at a BMV—their card gets swiped and invalidated for further procurement of ballots.
Have to think of some way to let the non-ambulatory vote absentee, but that would cut out most of the fraud.
I loved your erudite and appropriate use of Saul Alinsky’s quote. That’s why I looked up and countered with one my own.
But, my friend, you are giving this 60s types too much credit. And, if you are looking for former radicals, please check out the roots of the Neo-conservative movement.
Yes ... the type of people who conceive, support and FUND ACORN are very unfriendly to the Gospel.
To be honest with you, I am glad that this is comming out now. Better for all states and counties to get a heads up on this a month out rather than a week out.
Some say that the damage has been done. I think alot of it can be averted now. This gives the GOP time to get people in areas where this is going on. County judges will be doubled or tripled in some cases.
Last but definitely not least, is that all of this voter fraud is linked to ACORN and the ties to Hussien are inseparable. It will have damaging legs to THAT ONE.
Is there a tipping point?
To be honest with you, I think it is beginning to happen.
Thanks! I’ll be in touch, too.
This election is definitely headed for a Bush v. Gore type of decision. I'm not confident that both sides will accept such a decision.
I agree with you in SPADES!!!!!!
I fully agree that there is a considerable amount of incompetence involved. After all, several of William Ayers best friends blew themselves up in a New York townhouse. They were not very effective revolutionaries. But they have a definate goal, and have done an extremely good job of entrenching themselves and aquiring sources of ready money, including lots of tax dollars and what used to be Republican money. Take the Annenburg Foundation and the Heinz Family Foundation for example.
Their control over education is almost complete. There have even been rumblings of trying to ban homeschooling in some states. Once they have complete control over education then socialism is only a generation away. They are in this for the long haul. They know they may not achieve their marxist dream in this country in their lifetime, but without a serious concerted effort on our side they will achieve it.
You either are a mole or a fool. In either case, everyone should disregard what you say. If the Liberal Messiah steals this election, revolution or a military coup should immediately follow.
1. Everyone votes on the same day, no excuses...
No early voting.
No late voting.
No over voting.
No under voting.
No provisional balloting.
If granny can’t make it to the polls and grandson can’t take her, too effing bad.
Military people vote wherever they are and the media morons will just have to wait.
I’ve got a good link for you that relates to all of this (hat tip to word_warrior_bob for the original thread). It is an interview with a former KGB operative from their propoganda department. He talks alot about the useful idiots in the U.S. that advance the communist agenda. He has lots of interesting views about how these useful idiots will be the first killed when communists take over. Of couse, the interview is from 1984, but it is fascinating stuff.
Oh I will have to vote for him, but his whole campaign has been to reach across the isle. McCain does not have any convictions he would fight. That was just rhetoric.
But about 6 years too late.
Exactly. Why, in this age of technology, can it not be done?
Why, for that matter, can we not designate our tax dollars for the 'general welfare' specifics we choose to support?
I love the fact that they blew themselves up in a NY townhouse.
And they seemed like such earnest, peace-loving folk.
I would have agreed with you a few months ago. I didn’t like McCain and didn’t expect much from him, but I think lately even he has realized that this is something that goes beyond the usual politics and “reaching across the aisles” stuff. That is, I’m sure he’ll do that, and I certainly don’t expect his economic principles to change and become very conservative. But I think even McCain is beginning to see that Obama is not the ordinary Dem opponent, and it seems to me that he is becoming increasingly concerned. Of course, he still has to be quite careful, because the press has the “racism” thing lined up and ready to go if he even seems to imply a personal criticism of The One.
Thanks for the ping.