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A President Barack Obama
Townhall.com ^ | October 12, 2008 | Salena Zito

Posted on 10/12/2008 7:45:41 AM PDT by Kaslin

Most Americans wake every morning to news that Barack Obama will win next month’s presidential election. Strategists even say the word “landslide” aloud.

Every poll shows it, every pundit echoes it, and every analyst predicts it – therefore it must be true, right?

Let’s take this political axiom to some of those who do the predicting, to project what America will look like under an Obama administration, governing with a Democratic congressional majority led by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.

“First of all, let’s dismiss any talk of socialism,” says Democrat strategist Bob Beckel, who worked in Jimmy Carter’s White House with a Democrat-controlled Congress. “The idea that Barack Obama is going to bring socialism to this country is just crazy.”

Beckel says that, in government and politics, the policy pendulum always swings back and forth and, particularly in this economic crisis, “people will want – and Obama will deliver – more government involvement.”

“They feel more comfortable with that than they do with a bunch of people on Wall Street,” he says.

Beckel sees an Obama appointment of Hillary Clinton to the Supreme Court bench as soon as an opening occurs, and he dismisses the massive move towards industry regulations that some people predict.

One insider, who refuses to predict on the record, says privately that Obama will quickly announce his appointments to the cabinet positions of state, defense, treasury and attorney general. He believes Obama’s cabinet is shaping up to look like this: retiring U.S. Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb., as defense secretary; Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick as attorney general; New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, a political independent, at treasury; Susan Rice as national security advisor; Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., as secretary of state.

Mark Siegel, a former Democratic National Committee executive director, says Obama will want to make it immediately clear to America and to the world that “there's a new sheriff in town." He expects Obama to make that point dramatically by issuing several executive orders.

Siegel says you will see Obama immediately suspend all pending judicial nominations, close Guantanamo, then reassure the world that he will never permit torture.

Also look for a doubling of the Peace Corps, a brand-new Volunteer Youth Network, an expansion of U.S. assistance for “Teach for America," and a reduction of interest rates on student loans, Siegel predicts.

What a difference four short years makes says Brian Darling, a congressional analyst for the Heritage Foundation.

Darling predicts Obama’s tax policy will have an immediate effect on small businesses and result in many individuals seeing their marginal tax rate double. Any Supreme Court retirements would dramatically change the direction of American jurisprudence. And he warns that the push for new regulations is the wrong reaction to problems on Wall Street.

“We need more capitalism, not less. Telecommunications has thrived without regulations, and our economy should make sure that politicians in Washington do not try to regulate and tax our way out of the current economic downturn.”

University of Arkansas political scientist Bob Maranto says the Illinois senator is a pragmatist tactically: “Obama knows that if you try to impose things like racial quotas and gay marriage, that would not be a vote-winner. But if you appoint federal judges who impose those policies, you can evade responsibility.”

Maranto suspects those are the judges Obama would appoint.

He warns that Obama is no fool. “Socialism is dead, and Barack Obama knows it,” he explains. “He would, however, favor a very strong government hand in regulating the economy, both because he believes that government knows best and because that means more subsidies and jobs to hand out to supporters, and more votes and PAC contributions to get in return.”

All four men agree that if Obama becomes president with Congress sharing his beliefs, then “change” is definite – but not infinite.

The degree of success or enforcement, they say, depends on how far the press and the next mid-term election will allow the new president and Congress to go.


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1 posted on 10/12/2008 7:45:42 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2103612/posts

We’re staging a surge to prevent such an atrocity.


2 posted on 10/12/2008 7:47:53 AM PDT by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: Kaslin

Beckel says that, in government and politics, the policy pendulum always swings back and forth and, particularly in this economic crisis, “people will want – and Obama will deliver – more government involvement


That’s no Socialism? Good grief!


3 posted on 10/12/2008 7:49:54 AM PDT by CommieCutter (I'm voting for Sarah.......and that other guy.)
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To: Kaslin

After reading this.....Hussein is a Socialist...no doubt...


4 posted on 10/12/2008 7:49:58 AM PDT by Dallas59 (Just Say NObama!)
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To: Kaslin
Well now I feel better.
5 posted on 10/12/2008 7:50:19 AM PDT by nhwingut (,)
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To: Kaslin
All four men agree that if Obama becomes president with Congress sharing his beliefs, then “change” is definite – but not infinite.

The damage will be.

6 posted on 10/12/2008 7:56:48 AM PDT by pray4liberty (The Lord is on the side of the truly righteous. The MSM is not.)
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To: Kaslin

They are starting to put lipstick on the pig.


7 posted on 10/12/2008 7:58:18 AM PDT by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT)
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To: Kaslin
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8 posted on 10/12/2008 7:59:37 AM PDT by littlehouse36 (Obama caught saying ACORN will shape his agenda: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vJcVgJhNaU)
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To: Kaslin
We are doomed....enjoy the last flickers of light from the waining light of liberty....Obama will surly extinguish it.
9 posted on 10/12/2008 8:00:19 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: CommieCutter

Hey Bob, you left something out.
He will let the people that caused the financial crisis get away scott free.
He will confiscate every gun that he can find.
He will make it illegal to criticize anything the gov’t does.
He will oppose every attempt at making America energy independant.
And if you think you have seen corruption at the highest levels of the gov, you ain’t seen noyhin’ yet.


10 posted on 10/12/2008 8:00:47 AM PDT by mapmaker77
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To: CommieCutter

But don’t call it socialism, no, no, no.... we’ll call it... governmentism! Yeah! That’s it!


11 posted on 10/12/2008 8:02:07 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: Kaslin
This is the biggest risk:

But if you appoint federal judges who impose those policies, you can evade responsibility.”

Roe v Wade for health care, housing, food, education .... they will have no choice but to confiscate your 401K because the USSC says you must pay.

If it happens we all will have a big “I told you so”. Not that it matters.

schu

12 posted on 10/12/2008 8:02:25 AM PDT by schu
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To: everyone

I am very impressed with Philip J. Berg. He’s no flake, not by a long shot.

I believe watching this video will cheer you and give you greater hope than anything we have seen so far. This is not a rumor of a RICO indictment; this a lawsuit in the courts right now that is just waiting for the judge to make a decision.

I urge you all to take the mere 10 minutes and 52 seconds it will take to view the video at the link below, and perhaps spread the link around.

This man is a true hero if he’s right.

The pleadings are here: http://tinyurl.com/4fq8lf or http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-paedce/case_no-2:2008cv04083/case_id-281573/

The video is here: http://tinyurl.com/4fwsac or
http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/11/the-question-of-the-birth-certificate/#comment-6812

I am enormously encouraged.

So if you want to feel better, and more hopeful, watch it immediately.

If Berg is wrong, what is Obama really hiding, and who signed off on his qualifications to run for president? Somebody in this country must have — but who, and what are *they* hiding by remaining silent?

Berg is going to take this to the Supreme Court if necessary, particularly, I think, if this court looks like it’s going to delay rulings until after the election. I don’t know if there are any statutory time requirements for the pending rulings, but Berg is not going to lie down and give up at any point.

http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-paedce/case_no-2:2008cv04083/case_id-281573/
http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/11/the-question-of-the-birth-certificate/#comment-6812


13 posted on 10/12/2008 8:02:51 AM PDT by Technical Editor
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To: Kaslin

If Barry is “elected” and he does all of this, look for another Republican Revolution in 2010 like the one in 1994. I could see the Republicans regaining control of the House and closing the margin rapidly in the Senate. Of course, I’d like to see McCain-Palin win.


14 posted on 10/12/2008 8:02:52 AM PDT by chippewaman
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To: Kaslin

http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F70815F93B5C11728DDDAA0894D9415B8084F1D3&scp=13&sq=reagan+carter+poll&st=cse

Reagan and Carter Stand Nearly Even in Last Polls; Differences on War Issue Reagan and Carter Stand Almost Even in Final Polls Effects of the Debate Male-Female Preferences Catholics and Conservatives Fears About the Economy

The New York Times/CBS News Poll

By ADAM CLYMER

November 3, 1980, Monday

Page A1, 1540 words

Ronald Reagan and President Carter, their already close race tightened by their debate last Tuesday, appeared to be running about even in popular support with two days to go until the Presidential election.


15 posted on 10/12/2008 8:03:07 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( I do not want to know the type of person, who does not like Sarah !)
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To: littlehouse36

16 posted on 10/12/2008 8:03:13 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (...forward this to your 10 very best friends....)
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To: Kaslin

“First of all, let’s dismiss any talk of socialism,” says Democrat strategist Bob Beckel, who worked in Jimmy Carter’s White House with a Democrat-controlled Congress. “The idea that Barack Obama is going to bring socialism to this country is just crazy.”

Beckel says that, in government and politics, the policy pendulum always swings back and forth and, particularly in this economic crisis, “people will want – and Obama will deliver – more government involvement.”

“They feel more comfortable with that than they do with a bunch of people on Wall Street,” he says.

In the first line he states that Obama won’t bring socialism to America.

And in the next two lines he defines EXACTLY what socialism is and tries to say the people WANT it.


17 posted on 10/12/2008 8:04:02 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Kaslin
Remember FReepers ... we must not revert to the same vulgar strategies as the enemy democrat party.

Let's keep it civilized. After all, we can hope they use a sharp blade when they come to cut off our heads.


Oh ... that's right. We were too prudish to look at those videos.


ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒE

18 posted on 10/12/2008 8:04:43 AM PDT by G.Mason (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: A_perfect_lady

Fascism.


19 posted on 10/12/2008 8:04:45 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: word_warrior_bob
And to be sure, a President Obama would make sure every future election is controlled in the way he controlled the Democrat Primary race. Just listen to these four short videos and see for yourself what the Obama campaign did to other Democrat voters!

http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com/video/index.htm

20 posted on 10/12/2008 8:05:25 AM PDT by seekthetruth
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To: Kaslin

How do democrats feel knowing they are closer on the political spectrum to socialism than republicans?

I often wonder—does the Media “really” love liberals more than they hate conservatives? I am not sure about this one. I think the media more than anything LOVES THEMSELVES...and once elected Obama will see more negative come out because the media make their living in bad news.

I do think things swing back and forth...how can we go from Carter to Reagan and Reagan to Clinton in just a few small years? Historically this is probably our time to lose...but Obama is a one term president in the making. What will be his theme in 2012? One thing is for sure the next presidential election starts sometime in 2009.....and the CHANGE theme is off the table for him. As for his opponent...she/he could easily say Obama’s Change=socialism....we warned you...you bought Obama’s change which was easy to do...but now look what he did to you...

The point is not to get down but to make lemonade. McCain is not the conservative answer. If we really think the way out of the political mess...the way to lead the world on foreign policy..the way to keep America safe from terror then we need someone with true conservative convictions...This gives us the opportunity to get back to the movement..the movement that ended in 1992....had a slight re-birth in 1994 (and electorally look what happened when we got energized with the movement)and then died. The movement died...because no leaders took up the cause. It’s time to take the cause and breed leaders from the rank and file conservative movement.


21 posted on 10/12/2008 8:05:33 AM PDT by Illinois Rep
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To: Kaslin; george76
One insider, who refuses to predict on the record, says privately that Obama will quickly announce his appointments to the cabinet positions:


22 posted on 10/12/2008 8:06:18 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( I do not want to know the type of person, who does not like Sarah !)
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To: Kaslin
Kingfish will make Washington D.C. a Mystic Knights of the Sea Lodge meeting..
AND John McLaim can work quite well with democrats..
AS IF.... nothing happened at all(the election)..
23 posted on 10/12/2008 8:06:24 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: Kaslin

I would expect the number of bureaucrats and their power to regulate all areas of the economy and society to increase drastically. Very few business functions will be able to operate without some government involvement. Sure sounds like socialism to me.


24 posted on 10/12/2008 8:06:48 AM PDT by eggman (Obama is now The Zero. He used to be The One but he added The Negative One=Joe Biden.)
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To: Kaslin

Like an old banged up hotrod body, it’s going to take a lot of lead to fix it.


25 posted on 10/12/2008 8:08:07 AM PDT by tbpiper (I don't need no steeenking Marxist Messiah)
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To: Kaslin
He warns that Obama is no fool. “Socialism is dead, and Barack Obama knows it,” he explains.

I imagine The Messiahbama believes he can bring it back from the dead.

26 posted on 10/12/2008 8:08:53 AM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: Kaslin

“He believes Obama’s cabinet is shaping up to look like this: retiring U.S. Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb., as defense secretary; Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick as attorney general; New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, a political independent, at treasury; Susan Rice as national security advisor; Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., as secretary of state.”

God help us all.


27 posted on 10/12/2008 8:09:27 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (Been here before)
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To: Grampa Dave
Ronald Reagan and President Carter, their already close race tightened by their debate last Tuesday, appeared to be running about even in popular support with two days to go until the Presidential election.

Wow. That is heartening!

28 posted on 10/12/2008 8:11:13 AM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: Kaslin
He warns that Obama is no fool.

I beg to differ....

“Socialism is dead, and Barack Obama knows it,” he explains.

But he STILL wants to deliver it.

“He would, however, favor a very strong government hand in regulating the economy, both because he believes that government knows best and because that means more subsidies and jobs to hand out to supporters, and more votes and PAC contributions to get in return.”

A textbook definition of "socialism" if there ever was....

Bob Maranto is an idiot!

“Obama knows that if you try to impose things like racial quotas and gay marriage, that would not be a vote-winner. But if you appoint federal judges who impose those policies, you can evade responsibility.”

Great! More activist judges. Like they haven't f'd up anything yet....

"Plausible Deny-ability" is the term used. I call it "Cowardice"....

29 posted on 10/12/2008 8:11:46 AM PDT by dirtbiker (The most important requirement to be a liberal is a single-digit IQ....)
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To: Kaslin
One insider, who refuses to predict on the record, says privately that Obama will quickly announce his appointments to the cabinet positions of state, defense, treasury and attorney general. He believes Obama’s cabinet is shaping up to look like this: retiring U.S. Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb., as defense secretary; Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick as attorney general; New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, a political independent, at treasury; Susan Rice as national security advisor; Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., as secretary of state.

Sounds very much like the type of cabinet you could expect from Obahmadinejad.
30 posted on 10/12/2008 8:11:49 AM PDT by adorno
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To: headstamp 2
“He believes Obama’s cabinet is shaping up to look like this: retiring U.S. Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb., as defense secretary; Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick as attorney general; New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, a political independent, at treasury; Susan Rice as national security advisor; Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., as secretary of state.”

God help us all.

Nightmarish, isn't it. We certainly do need God's blessings.

31 posted on 10/12/2008 8:13:45 AM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: headstamp 2
Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., as secretary of state.”

They finally got it right.

Sen. John Kerry, D-M ass....

32 posted on 10/12/2008 8:14:19 AM PDT by dirtbiker (The most important requirement to be a liberal is a single-digit IQ....)
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To: arasina

Reagan and Carter were close in the polls but the excitement within the country for Reagan was overwhelming...you just sensed Reagan was going to win big....he was optimistic, enthusiastic and confident...Americans were eager to get behind them and you just knew the polls were crap.

This time around? McCain is loaded with excitement,energy and enthusiasm...the country is squarely behind him...I get the sense McCain is going to win big...he is optimistic, enthusiastic and confident....Americans are eager to get behind them and you just know these polls are crap.

Am I too far off base here?


33 posted on 10/12/2008 8:14:31 AM PDT by Illinois Rep
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To: chippewaman
If Barry is “elected” and he does all of this, look for another Republican Revolution in 2010 like the one in 1994.


This election cycle is quickly making your thinking antiquated. If laws and rules are not followed now by the left, what makes you think it will be easier when they establish full power...from congress, the white house, the courts...all the way to the media?
34 posted on 10/12/2008 8:14:42 AM PDT by macamadamia (Life is a continuation of war by other means.)
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To: rightwingextremist1776

So they just dismiss any discussion of the future of the coutry? Any suggestion of socialism is crazy.

Don’t worry citizen your freedoms are not in danger...as long as you agree with Obama. ALL PEOPLE ARE CREATED EQUAL. But, LIBERALS ARE MORE EQUAL.

You will be Free to express any Leftist Polital view point you choose. Any you will be able to vote for any Political Party, you can choose from the Peoples Democratic Party or the Workers Socialist Party both equally good choices!

Enjoy your many freedoms knowing your tax dollars are creating a more fair society. These are GREAT times comrade, hail our GREAT and MERCIFUL Leader...(Begin the Oath to Obama..then the new socialist national anthem)


35 posted on 10/12/2008 8:15:02 AM PDT by jakerobins
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To: CommieCutter

His Court appointments alone should scare all informed Americans. The problem is we have now 50% secular Americans voting and youth and uninformed minorities voting like zombies and that is more than the 48% informed, Pub, conserv voters combined. We are in real trouble and that change will be generational in scope.


36 posted on 10/12/2008 8:16:36 AM PDT by phillyfanatic ( iT)
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To: arasina

The left wing mediots in charge of the MSM have been lying to us via their rigged polls for decades.


37 posted on 10/12/2008 8:16:54 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( I do not want to know the type of person, who does not like Sarah !)
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To: chippewaman
Did the thought ever occur to you that there never may be another election where the Republicans, or any other party could win. Think of two liberal judges on the SC.
38 posted on 10/12/2008 8:17:20 AM PDT by ANGGAPO (Layte Gulf Beach Club)
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To: Dallas59

You just now came to that conclusion?


39 posted on 10/12/2008 8:18:17 AM PDT by Osage Orange (" I did not have radical relations with that man, William Ayers. " -Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: mapmaker77

Several things to do quickly.

Purchase yourself a good reliable sidearm (or several), and ample ammunition, These things will be in short supply very soon.

Carefully enclose this cache of firearms and ammunition in a hidden location, then report it “stolen”. That way, when the “civilian” authorities come looking for your (legally registered, but presumed stolen) weapons, you can say, that you cannot produce them.

Once they have passed on (assuming they have accepted your story), retrieve and keep at close hand the cached arms, for the looters shall be close behind.

At that point, things will be getting pretty elemental. We need only study the tactics of the Weather Underground, and turn this upon the New World Order.

They brought Nixon to his knees, didn’t they?


40 posted on 10/12/2008 8:19:39 AM PDT by alloysteel (Just because you are a target, does not mean you have to be a victim.)
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To: CommieCutter

All you have to remember that Beckel was Walter Mondale’s campaign manager


41 posted on 10/12/2008 8:23:05 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: hosepipe
I can see your age hanging out. The MNS is over the heads of most of the subscribers.
42 posted on 10/12/2008 8:24:26 AM PDT by ANGGAPO (Layte Gulf Beach Club)
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To: Bigh4u2
In the first line he states that Obama won’t bring socialism to America. And in the next two lines he defines EXACTLY what socialism is and tries to say the people WANT it.

They just will avoid calling it socialism. They successfully avoid calling Obama who he is, too. Socialism is socialism whether you call such or not. They will impose it on us, but give a little Prozac in a form of some soothing terminology, so we will not feel all that awful.
43 posted on 10/12/2008 8:25:33 AM PDT by alecqss
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To: Kaslin
An Obama presidency means we press the pedal to the floor on the legislative agenda of the Democratic Congress; McCain would at least provide us a brake pedal.

An Obama presidency means we get more Federal judges who legislate from the bench. Courts in Canada and the UK consider the Shari'a traditions of their residents who claim to adhere to them. Will we follow those nations on that road to hell?

These question have been bothering me.

44 posted on 10/12/2008 8:25:49 AM PDT by irgbar-man (Do radioactive cats have 18 half-lives?)
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To: Kaslin

I love this crap. Just keep showing him everyday and talking about him as if he already were President. It will only make people focus on him and when that “light” is cast on him maybe the people will see the truth.


45 posted on 10/12/2008 8:26:57 AM PDT by mkcc30 (If you are undecided then you are clueless!)
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To: ANGGAPO

The Secretary...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QunlmHD-ao&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sQhtDc8k74&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0uxfQJ1qF4&feature=related


46 posted on 10/12/2008 8:26:58 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: Kaslin

Beckel is such a waste of space. He was involved with two of the most pathetic campaigns of ALL time and he wants to give advice?!?!

Go to Cuba and live out the rest of your days you fat Larry King!


47 posted on 10/12/2008 8:30:37 AM PDT by mkcc30 (If you are undecided then you are clueless!)
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To: alloysteel

“That way, when the “civilian” authorities come looking for your (legally registered, but presumed stolen) weapons, you can say, that you cannot produce them.”

Any “civilian” authority who comes for my weapon is going to get it....in spades. I don’t give a damn what anyone thinks of that.


48 posted on 10/12/2008 8:30:58 AM PDT by TalBlack
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To: Kaslin

Lefties and RINOS for Sunday! YAY!


49 posted on 10/12/2008 8:32:58 AM PDT by CommieCutter (I'm voting for Sarah.......and that other guy.)
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To: arasina
Just as the true Messiah brought Lazarus from the dead.
50 posted on 10/12/2008 8:33:26 AM PDT by Maine Mariner
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