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Obama Born In Kenya? His Grandmother Says Yes
Israel E-news ^ | 10/12/08 | Tamar Yonah

Posted on 10/12/2008 6:05:35 PM PDT by pissant

Someone is lying. According to Obama's Kenyan (paternal) grandmother, as well as his half-brother and half-sister, Barack Hussein Obama was born in Kenya, not in Hawaii as the Democratic candidate for president claims. His grandmother bragged that her grandson is about to be President of the United States and is so proud because she was present DURING HIS BIRTH IN KENYA, in the delivery room. -This, according to several news sites and Pennsylvania attorney Philip J. Berg (see video below) who is, surprisingly, a life long democrat himself. Berg is the former Deputy Attorney General of Pennsylvania, and he has an impressive background in his activities as a democrat, but his support for the party seemingly stops when it comes to his trust in Barack Hussein Obama.

Many U.S. voters are suspicious of the Democratic candidate's past, and Berg filed a lawsuit to force Barack Hussein Obama to produce a certified copy of his original birth certificate to prove that he can run for the office of President of the United States. However, he is being fought. The DNC On Sept. 24 filed a motion to dismiss the Berg action. Why? What is there to hide? Why not produce the original birth certificate and be done with all the suspicions against Barack Hussein Obama?

A few months back, a birth certificate WAS posted on the internet which shows that Obama was born in Hawaii. Yet some say this birth certificate is a forgery and again, his grandmother st

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KEYWORDS: antichrist; birthcertificate; certifigate; itstheeconomystupid; larrysinclairslover; obama; obamafamily; truthermadness
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To: Wife of D28Man

I’d take Hillary over that commie fraud.


101 posted on 10/12/2008 6:38:04 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

bumpity bump


102 posted on 10/12/2008 6:38:15 PM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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To: jtal
OK this is what I’ve never understood about this: Maybe I’m stupid, but isn’t any child born to a US citizen, even while overseas, is still born a US citizen?

Quite probably, depending upon the age of the mother. It helps if both parents are US citizens. However, that's not the issue here. The issue is Obama's Natural Born Citizen status. Is being the child of a couple, only one of whom is a US citizen, born outside the jurisdiction of the USA, a "natural born US Citizen?" Basic to the theory as applied in this case is that, while Obama might be a US citizen, he wouldn't be a "natural born" us citizen because he was born outside the USA and granted birth citizenship in the British Commonwealth in Kenya.

Even if it turns out that Obama is a "natural born" US citizen -- let us say he actually was born in Hawaii, within the USA -- it is very possible that he lost that citizenship when his mother and step-dad took him to Indonesia and his mother became a naturalized Indonesian Citizen and his step dad adopted him. In this case, he would have lost his citizenship and could only have reestablished that citizenship through making an oath of allegiance to the USA on his 18th birthday. But, even then, he would be a naturalized -- or statutory -- citizen and, hence, not qualified for office.
103 posted on 10/12/2008 6:38:17 PM PDT by TexasGreg ("Democrats Piss Me Off")
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To: pissant

Man, pissant, you’ve been like a pit bull on this. Albeit one without lipstick.

Thanks for staying on it!


104 posted on 10/12/2008 6:38:21 PM PDT by AZ .44 MAG (Am I foolish to explain things? He had such trouble with my name.)
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To: RasterMaster

BUMP


105 posted on 10/12/2008 6:38:22 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: manc

I sent my own letter to the FEC asking why they were not requiring that Obama show proof of citizenship as required by the Constitution. I heard nothing back.


106 posted on 10/12/2008 6:38:37 PM PDT by Faith
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To: jtal
OK this is what I’ve never understood about this: Maybe I’m stupid, but isn’t any child born to a US citizen, even while overseas, is still born a US citizen?

Not a stupid question at all. A constitutional requirement to be president is being a natural-born citizen. That's a higher threshold than just "citizen." Natural-born means born on US soil. US military bases and zones overseas are also considered US soil. Parents can confer citizenship to a child born overseas, but not the natural-born part. That's a function of geography. So my understanding of it is, it wouldn't matter if both parents were US citizens. If he was born in Kenya, he would not be a natural born citizen. The age of the mother is only an issue if he were born in Hawaii, as the automatic US citizenship that comes with being born on US soil has exceptions that fall in the date range that Batack was born.

Since it's never really been tested in the Supreme Court, I'm sure that everyone (meaning democrats) will want to just dismiss all that as antiquated technicality.

107 posted on 10/12/2008 6:39:24 PM PDT by Eroteme
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To: ncfool

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108 posted on 10/12/2008 6:39:40 PM PDT by seoul62
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To: Aria

I happen to agree with your ideas re Obama. There was a real Imposter named Ferdinand de La Marra. His success was that he was brilliant and a cipher. He had no real personality but could assume not just a person’s occupation but his personality.He fooled the Canadian Navy into accepting him as a surgeon, and a state as a prison warden.
But the one thing he knew was that time would run out and he’d have to move on before being discovered. This is the difference with Obama. He’s working his magic on the world’s largest stage. I don’t think he’d threaten his own performance by leaving such gaping hole in his credentials.


109 posted on 10/12/2008 6:40:31 PM PDT by xkaydet65 (Freedom is purchased not with gold, but with steel.)
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To: slag

Me too.


110 posted on 10/12/2008 6:40:51 PM PDT by keats5 ("I hope for his sake, Joe Biden got that VP thing in writing."- Rudy)
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To: Faith

going to do the same

the FEC is quiet on this the judge will not do anything and oabma gets a lawyer to stop us from seeing it

all McCain has to do to stop obama is bring this up


111 posted on 10/12/2008 6:41:27 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick MA,CT sham marriage end racism end affirmative action)
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To: Wife of D28Man

But I’d think that if it comes out the dems were perpetrating such a fraud on the voters, alot of people would turn away from them and Hillary wouldn’t win anyway!


112 posted on 10/12/2008 6:41:48 PM PDT by GatorGirl (Election 2008--It's all about the judges!!)
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To: TexasGreg

He has to have a passport.....isn’t that a U.S. one?


113 posted on 10/12/2008 6:42:10 PM PDT by IndianPrincessOK (McCain/Palin...2 pit bulls, one with lipstick! Pigs will fly with lipstick Nov. 4th)
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To: slag

And how come the only picture of him visiting her is alone in an elevator. Why no pics of them together? How come SS doesn’t accompany him to Grandma’s house?


114 posted on 10/12/2008 6:42:35 PM PDT by proudtobeanamerican1 (God Bless Sarah Palin and her Family.)
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To: Frantzie
Ed Hale:

Ex-Hillary Clinton Supporters for John McCain
115 posted on 10/12/2008 6:43:43 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: CharlotteVRWC

Who is Ed Hale and is this something we are to believe? I get so tired of being jerked around; getting hopes up and having them dashed.


116 posted on 10/12/2008 6:44:22 PM PDT by WVNan
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To: nijo75

Here’s one to follow.


117 posted on 10/12/2008 6:44:52 PM PDT by ThreePuttinDude (.)-(.)
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To: meyer
Oops! Well, I suspect that bus service in Kenya will be on the rise soon...

No doubt generously funded by the new Obama administration and 'Rat Congress...

118 posted on 10/12/2008 6:44:58 PM PDT by Dinah Lord (fighting the Islamofascist Jihad - one keystroke at a time...)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I just posted this link and Israel News’s link on Drudge’s site.

This has got to get out !!!


119 posted on 10/12/2008 6:44:59 PM PDT by LiveFreeOrDie2001 (It's not Obama, it's O-bey-me !!!)
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To: pissant

If Obama wins the election, Biden will be searching for proof of Barak’s foreign birth. That would make Biden president, which he has been wanting for a long time.


120 posted on 10/12/2008 6:45:27 PM PDT by eccentric (a.k.a. baldwidow)
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To: CharlotteVRWC

I have been told that Obama’s Mama went to Kenya for visit very pregnant. When she tried to return the airline refused her boarding as they didn’t want birth on airplane. She gave birth shortly and then after three days in Kenya after the birth. got on a plane and flew to Hawaii and THEN registered the birth. Sneaky wasn’t she.


121 posted on 10/12/2008 6:45:53 PM PDT by supermop
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To: cripplecreek
I never thought I would say it but honestly I prefer Hillary over Obama.

I posted the other day that I would dance at her Inaugural Ball.
122 posted on 10/12/2008 6:46:59 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: jtal

My children are all US citizens, but none can run for president. They are not “natural born citizens”. They were born in foreign lands and then adopted, first in their foreign lands, and re-adopted again here in the US. So although they came here as the “children of US citizens”, they had to undergo naturalization procedures. Thus, they will never be eligible for the presidency.


123 posted on 10/12/2008 6:47:17 PM PDT by keats5 ("I hope for his sake, Joe Biden got that VP thing in writing."- Rudy)
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To: Maelstorm
Hmmm...Is grandma still alive?

Yep.


Sarah Onyango Obama

FR Cross Reference: Barack Obama's African grandmother Sarah Onyango Obama roots for him [a two-roomed, tin-roofed.....]

124 posted on 10/12/2008 6:47:28 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: PhiKapMom
Pretty substantial rumors said there are three copies of certified Kenyan birth certifications NOW in the states. One is going to the judge. One went to this guy and where did the 3rd one go.

I can't imagine!


125 posted on 10/12/2008 6:48:11 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obama wants to raise taxes and kill babies; Palin wants to raise babies and kill taxes.)
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To: Miss Didi

If Hillary steps in we can say “We can’t trust a political party that tried to put a terrorist in the whitehouse!”


126 posted on 10/12/2008 6:48:11 PM PDT by CommieCutter (I'm voting for Sarah.......and that other guy.)
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To: dascallie
Do you think he can still be POTUS after perpetuating that level of lie?

Given the audacity ("balls") of the Dems in claiming the Fannie/Freddie fiasco was Bush's fault when it was actually theirs ... yes.

Most of the sheeple won't care ... or understand the issues involved.
127 posted on 10/12/2008 6:49:11 PM PDT by TexasGreg ("Democrats Piss Me Off")
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To: PhiKapMom
That is what I am wondering — is this the documentation Corsi found?

Did you hear how fast Brian and Steve shut Corsi up on Friday? They had him on to chat about his ordeal in Kenya...the minute he brought up that he had some documents--they cut him off. Quite rudely, too. So not like the friendly Friends. What was up with that???
128 posted on 10/12/2008 6:49:15 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: nobama08
Maybe he knew there is no law that says someone running for president has to prove they are eligible.

And he is correct. He may run for president and be elected president. But he is constitutionally ineligible to serve as president.

129 posted on 10/12/2008 6:49:16 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Maelstorm

“Hmmm...Is grandma still alive?”

as of today at 9:44 PM EST...


130 posted on 10/12/2008 6:49:28 PM PDT by zwerni (*** PALIN/mccain 2008 ***)
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To: Miss Didi

Obama is dangerous in a whole different way than Hillary. I think Hillary can be reigned in to some extent.


131 posted on 10/12/2008 6:49:41 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Paying taxes for bank bailouts is apparently the patriotic thing to do. [/sarc])
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To: manc

Even if he gets elected... if it can be proven that he is not eligible for the position, would he be able to remain in it? Ay God, this would make Clinton’s legal hijinks look like jaywalking.

Come’on Americans... do you want a president who’s going to spend his whole term fighting charges that he isn’t legally eligible to hold the office in the first place?

Why didn’t they get a real American for their puppet? BTW, I understand he never went through any naturalization process, so he is not only perhaps a non-natural born American, he may not be an American citizen at all!

The first illegal alien president. Yippee, what a country we’ve become.


132 posted on 10/12/2008 6:49:42 PM PDT by ichabod1 (You won't know communism is here until it puts a boot in your (fat) bottom.)
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To: pissant
“Okay flame me, but is this guy stupid enough to run for POTUS when proof exists that he is not a natural born citizen?”

I beginning to think the dimocRATS to not care. If its a “Constitutional crisis” so be it. I beginning to think that has been the left’s plan all along.

133 posted on 10/12/2008 6:50:15 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

It’s not going to get on and will not go anywhere. If you’re getting excited about this don’t bother. When John McCain was defending Obama the other day he also said, “He’s a citizen”. He is not going to pursue this and without the support of the ticket it’s a dead issue


134 posted on 10/12/2008 6:50:35 PM PDT by wiseprince
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To: pissant
Does this kill the Obama birth certificate myth?

Scan from the August 1961 edition of the Honolulu Advertiser

Obama is an American. No, really. Update: Shocker - Berg a truther?

135 posted on 10/12/2008 6:50:35 PM PDT by AHerald ("Be faithful to God ... do not bother about the ridicule of the foolish." - St. Pio of Pietrelcina)
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To: WVNan

Everyone needs to be a little careful with the Ed Hale thing.

This was posted by texasdarlin earlier today referring to him having a copy of the Kenyan Birth Certificate:
http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/

10/12/08 10:40 AM ET: Since originally posting this story Saturday, Atty. Philip Berg’s office informed us that they cannot discuss this matter due to pending litigation, which is understandable. They also informed us that Berg is NOT collaborating with Ed Hale, moderator of a site, “Hillary Clinton Supporters for John McCain” and host of a radio show. We have had no direct contact with Ed Hale, and have no idea whether he’s truthful or not. Whether or not the “tip” we received is accurate, only time will tell. At this time, we have no further independent verification. However, the reason we published this story and the reason we will keep the story on this blog is that the language in Berg’s filing — which is a matter of public record — is specific about the Kenyan birth place, and we assume that the claim is based on something besides wishful thinking.


136 posted on 10/12/2008 6:50:43 PM PDT by tuwood
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To: PhiKapMom

They say Hannity has newly obtained documented information tonight. Hannity is recording at home, but I won’t see the show until I return home later.


137 posted on 10/12/2008 6:50:49 PM PDT by Paige ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing," Edmund Burke)
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To: Miss Didi

That’s weird — why would they cut him off? Did they not want him revealing what he had on their show because they did not want to know?


138 posted on 10/12/2008 6:51:38 PM PDT by PhiKapMom ( BOOMER SOONER -- VOTE FOR McCAIN/PALIN2008! LetsGetThisRight.com)
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To: AHerald

No. Not even close.


139 posted on 10/12/2008 6:52:07 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: ichabod1

Can we deport him for all this fraud?


140 posted on 10/12/2008 6:52:33 PM PDT by PhiKapMom ( BOOMER SOONER -- VOTE FOR McCAIN/PALIN2008! LetsGetThisRight.com)
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To: ichabod1

I hear you and it is frustrating that our country is about to be robbed not just by voter fraud but by a man who has used fraud to run for the presidency

This is a huge story and yet nothing from the media or the GOP

Why has Bush not got involved and told the Govt to look into this plus the FEC should be looking into this

something is going on especially now his own grand mother says she saw him born in Kenya


141 posted on 10/12/2008 6:53:08 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick MA,CT sham marriage end racism end affirmative action)
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To: Wife of D28Man

It really won’t matter who the Dem’s put on the ballot in his place. McCain will win the election when this becomes public if it is true. Do you think the majority of the voters in this country would support any candidate from the party who has deceived them for months? What is disgusting is that the Obama ticket would still get 35-45% of the vote.

Let’s face it at least 20% would vote for him if there was a video that showed him agreeing to turn over America’s nuclear arsenal to Iran followed by the subsequent banquet of a roasted human baby with a gay sex orgy with all of the mullahs after the feast.

But as of today about 40-45% of voters are terrified of him. Another 2-3% are concerned and leaning to McCain. We only need to persuade another 3-6% to defeat him. If he was really born in Kenya that would be enough to sway these voters. He lied on his website and in all of his bio’s.


142 posted on 10/12/2008 6:53:45 PM PDT by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts soooo good!)
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To: wiseprince

If the mother is a US citizen...he’s a citizen. Right?

Wasn’t John McCain technically born in Panama?

Again...I’ve done this twice this week. I hate playing devil’s advocate, but I want leads to be on solid ground.


143 posted on 10/12/2008 6:53:54 PM PDT by jamz
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To: pissant
No. Not even close.

Unless the scan of Honolulu Advertiser is a fraud, the idea that he was born in Kenya is ridiculous.

144 posted on 10/12/2008 6:54:02 PM PDT by AHerald ("Be faithful to God ... do not bother about the ridicule of the foolish." - St. Pio of Pietrelcina)
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To: Miss Didi

me too


145 posted on 10/12/2008 6:54:14 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick MA,CT sham marriage end racism end affirmative action)
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To: pissant

ping


146 posted on 10/12/2008 6:54:22 PM PDT by CriticalJ
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To: manc

IF THIS WAS JOHN MCCAIN, IT WOULD BE ALL OVER THE NEWS !!!!!!!!!!!!


147 posted on 10/12/2008 6:54:32 PM PDT by LiveFreeOrDie2001 (It's not Obama, it's O-bey-me !!!)
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To: pissant

All of this may in fact be absolutely true but disqualifying a black candidate for President just a couple of weeks before a national election, with most national polls saying he is ahead, would almost guarantee the most violent riots this country has ever seen.


148 posted on 10/12/2008 6:55:09 PM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: PhiKapMom
It was very strange...we discussed it on a thread Friday morning. Some say it was a hard break—but the Friends are never rude. They will say so or invite the guest to stay over to the next segment. It was like the minute he said—I have some documents—it was CUT! Maybe Sean gets first dibs on the scoop?
149 posted on 10/12/2008 6:55:46 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: AHerald

It would seem ridiculous to those who have paid no attention to the story and just flap their gums.


150 posted on 10/12/2008 6:55:56 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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