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Obama Born In Kenya? His Grandmother Says Yes
Israel E-news ^ | 10/12/08 | Tamar Yonah

Posted on 10/12/2008 6:05:35 PM PDT by pissant

Someone is lying. According to Obama's Kenyan (paternal) grandmother, as well as his half-brother and half-sister, Barack Hussein Obama was born in Kenya, not in Hawaii as the Democratic candidate for president claims. His grandmother bragged that her grandson is about to be President of the United States and is so proud because she was present DURING HIS BIRTH IN KENYA, in the delivery room. -This, according to several news sites and Pennsylvania attorney Philip J. Berg (see video below) who is, surprisingly, a life long democrat himself. Berg is the former Deputy Attorney General of Pennsylvania, and he has an impressive background in his activities as a democrat, but his support for the party seemingly stops when it comes to his trust in Barack Hussein Obama.

Many U.S. voters are suspicious of the Democratic candidate's past, and Berg filed a lawsuit to force Barack Hussein Obama to produce a certified copy of his original birth certificate to prove that he can run for the office of President of the United States. However, he is being fought. The DNC On Sept. 24 filed a motion to dismiss the Berg action. Why? What is there to hide? Why not produce the original birth certificate and be done with all the suspicions against Barack Hussein Obama?

A few months back, a birth certificate WAS posted on the internet which shows that Obama was born in Hawaii. Yet some say this birth certificate is a forgery and again, his grandmother st

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To: wiseprince

John McCain is not the one to pursue this — that would be a fatal mistake because they would say he brought down Obama because he is racist. This needs to come from the Judiciary of SCOTUS that makes the ruling.

McCain needs to stay as far away from this as possible. Didn’t you think it odd he added the word citizen to what he said and tonight he is going for blood in the debate. Something has happened.

Why did Obama give a speech in Philly that was from the black liberation radicals of the 60’s that called for riots — all those people he took quotes from were about taking the streets with violence. Odd speech for someone that considers himself ahead. Then he up and takes off for Chicago to spend time with his girls? Makes no sense when he was going to continue to campaign in PA.

Everything has been bizarre.


151 posted on 10/12/2008 6:56:13 PM PDT by PhiKapMom ( BOOMER SOONER -- VOTE FOR McCAIN/PALIN2008! LetsGetThisRight.com)
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To: Maelstorm

yes but soon to be under a bus. this is not the grandma I knew...


152 posted on 10/12/2008 6:56:14 PM PDT by isom35
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To: Paige

Hannity has shown nothing new, actually quite boring this week


153 posted on 10/12/2008 6:56:20 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick MA,CT sham marriage end racism end affirmative action)
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To: Parley Baer
If its a “Constitutional crisis” so be it. I beginning to think that has been the left’s plan all along.

Who would desire a constitutional crisis that might put our entire nation in jeopardy?

Supporters of communism.
Supporters of Islamic fascism.
Supporters of the Antichrist.

My going position is that proof will come out after Obama is officially inaugurated, and the source of that proof may well be Obama himself. I think he wants this country to be taken down.

154 posted on 10/12/2008 6:56:30 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (I ain't gonna quit until I'm laid in my tomb and even then they better shut it tight.)
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To: manc

Why has Bush not got involved and told the Govt to look into this....


From a conservative perspective and not a liberal one, GWB has been a terrible president. Sorry flame me!


155 posted on 10/12/2008 6:57:05 PM PDT by CommieCutter (I'm voting for Sarah.......and that other guy.)
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
All of this may in fact be absolutely true but disqualifying a black candidate for President just a couple of weeks before a national election, with most national polls saying he is ahead, would almost guarantee the most violent riots this country has ever seen.

Like they wouldn't riot afterward?
156 posted on 10/12/2008 6:57:22 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: pissant
It would seem ridiculous to those who have paid no attention to the story and just flap their gums.

No need for insults, pal. If the newspaper is legit, the story falls apart. Period.

157 posted on 10/12/2008 6:57:44 PM PDT by AHerald ("Be faithful to God ... do not bother about the ridicule of the foolish." - St. Pio of Pietrelcina)
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To: manc

Thanks !


158 posted on 10/12/2008 6:58:54 PM PDT by Paige ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing," Edmund Burke)
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To: AHerald

Not quite. But I ain’t going to explain it to someone who is about 3 months behind on the story.


159 posted on 10/12/2008 6:59:10 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: manc

not one person who I know knows of this
***The RNC ain’t doing their job.


160 posted on 10/12/2008 6:59:41 PM PDT by Kevmo (I love that sound and please let that baby keep on crying. ~Sarah Palin)
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To: 17th Miss Regt
Maybe he knew there is no law that says someone running for president has to prove they are eligible. And he is correct. He may run for president and be elected president. But he is constitutionally ineligible to serve as president.

Which he would know because he is a constitutional lawyer....

161 posted on 10/12/2008 6:59:55 PM PDT by Aria ("An America that could elect Sarah Palin might still save itself." Vin Suprynowicz)
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To: PhiKapMom

McCain has suggested that prior to every debate (you can judge for yourself of how hard he fought).

Do you have a video link of the speech you are referring to?


162 posted on 10/12/2008 7:00:01 PM PDT by wiseprince
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To: CommieCutter

not going to flame you at all, we all have our own views but I do happen to agree with you for the second term for the most part

I am so frustrated that the media are just not covering this and not covering odinga up

all the GOP have to do is bring this up on TV with AD’s and show the video plus ask on TV why he is going to great lengths to hide the real one

AAARRGGHHH


163 posted on 10/12/2008 7:00:10 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick MA,CT sham marriage end racism end affirmative action)
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To: jtal

NOT when the father is a foreigner and the mother is under 18, which unfortunately was the case.


164 posted on 10/12/2008 7:00:21 PM PDT by ichabod1 (You won't know communism is here until it puts a boot in your (fat) bottom.)
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To: jtal

If you’re going to be involved in government in the United States, citizenship is a must. To be a Senator or Representative, you must be a citizen of the United States. To be President, not only must you be a citizen, but you must also be natural-born. Aside from participation in government, citizenship is an honor bestowed upon people by the citizenry of the United States when a non-citizen passes the required tests and submits to an oath.

Natural-born citizen

Who is a natural-born citizen? Who, in other words, is a citizen at birth, such that that person can be a President someday?

The 14th Amendment defines citizenship this way: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.” But even this does not get specific enough. As usual, the Constitution provides the framework for the law, but it is the law that fills in the gaps.

Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in those gaps. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are “citizens of the United States at birth:”

* Anyone born inside the United States
* Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person’s status as a citizen of the tribe
* Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
* Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
* Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year
* Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
* Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
* A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.

Anyone falling into these categories is considered natural-born, and is eligible to run for President or Vice President. These provisions allow the children of military families to be considered natural-born, for example.

From this site: http://www.geocities.com/WallStreet/8925/alinsky.htm


165 posted on 10/12/2008 7:00:25 PM PDT by keats5 ("I hope for his sake, Joe Biden got that VP thing in writing."- Rudy)
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

“IF THIS WAS JOHN MCCAIN, IT WOULD BE ALL OVER THE NEWS !!!!!!!!!!!!”

You mean like McCain being born in the Panama Canal Zone? Been there done this.

Tinfoil hat time. Third debate done, Obama gets caught in Rezko scandal and is forced to remove himself from ticket. Recruit Hillary goes into full gear. She reluctantly accepts nomination with full warchest. For remaining two weeks her team keeps running McCain commercials praising Hillary.

Welcome President Clinton.


166 posted on 10/12/2008 7:00:52 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (McCain/Palin 2008)
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To: CommieCutter

If they flame you about your Bush statement then they can flame me too. He has been a louzy President except in the days following 9/11.

Don’t think he has the guts to look into this but as President he should be stepping forward to have his Attorney General or FBI confirm if Obama is a citizen. He owes that to this Country.


167 posted on 10/12/2008 7:01:30 PM PDT by PhiKapMom ( BOOMER SOONER -- VOTE FOR McCAIN/PALIN2008! LetsGetThisRight.com)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

But he, as far as I can tell, will never have to prove that he is constitutionally eligible to serve.


168 posted on 10/12/2008 7:02:00 PM PDT by nobama08
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To: Miss Didi

It’s one thing for the man to be defeated on election day. It’s quite another to disqualify him so close to election day. His electoral loss might trigger riots but the anger would be to the tenth power if he were to be disqualified before November 4th.


169 posted on 10/12/2008 7:02:01 PM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: RangerM

He was ELIGIBLE to be a citizen, but he was not a natural born one, if he was born outside of the US. And I don’t think they ever took any steps to make him one.


170 posted on 10/12/2008 7:02:22 PM PDT by ichabod1 (You won't know communism is here until it puts a boot in your (fat) bottom.)
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To: Miss Didi

Don’t care if they riot so long as they smash their own place up and we don’t pay

Then McCain should come on and say we are not a third world country , we go by laws and rules and we do not riot because we don’t like those rules that is what third world countries do


171 posted on 10/12/2008 7:02:29 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick MA,CT sham marriage end racism end affirmative action)
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To: PhiKapMom

Yesterday, I read somewhere (I think a Hillary site) that Kenyan documents, such as birth records, prior to 1963 were sent to London for storage, due to circumstances in Kenya at the time.

If true, Is THIS why Corsi went from Kenya to London?

Hmmm.


172 posted on 10/12/2008 7:02:36 PM PDT by Shelayne (Gloves off, heels on, lipstick check-- Giddy up!)
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To: wiseprince
It’s not going to get on and will not go anywhere. If you’re getting excited about this don’t bother. When John McCain was defending Obama the other day he also said, “He’s a citizen”. He is not going to pursue this and without the support of the ticket it’s a dead issue

And so did Bubba slip in that part about Barry being qualified if he was eligible under the Constitution. ;)
173 posted on 10/12/2008 7:02:59 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: keats5

wow, you’re reachin’. You have to look at the law that was on the books back when Obama was born. And at that time you had to be a U.S. citizen for 10 years I believe which she did not meet that criteria. You also cannot have a dual citizenship and Obama had to be an Indonesian citizen to go to school there it was a requirement and incidentally his father registered him as a muslim.


174 posted on 10/12/2008 7:04:09 PM PDT by Miss_Liberty
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To: keats5

That looks to be the current law not the law on the books in 1961.


175 posted on 10/12/2008 7:04:12 PM PDT by PhiKapMom ( BOOMER SOONER -- VOTE FOR McCAIN/PALIN2008! LetsGetThisRight.com)
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To: huldah1776

“If they let us talk, at least we’ll have some intelligent conversations. I can’t find anyone to talk to around here. ;)”

I’m sure the beatings will continue until moral improves.


176 posted on 10/12/2008 7:04:31 PM PDT by driftdiver (No More Obama! - The corruption has not changed despite all our hopes.)
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To: keats5

this would however apply to John McCain.


177 posted on 10/12/2008 7:04:52 PM PDT by Miss_Liberty
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To: Shelayne

If this happens, and we successfully thwart Obama. I think whoever is responsible deserves a BIG donation from all of us.
I would drop a twenty or more for this!


178 posted on 10/12/2008 7:06:02 PM PDT by CommieCutter (I'm voting for Sarah.......and that other guy.)
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To: rintense

“What happens if he wins, and THEN this information comes out and he is found to be a fraud? Does the election become null and void or does Biden get the Presidency?”

IMHO Biden would get it. Unless of course the Rats continue to ignore the law.


179 posted on 10/12/2008 7:06:34 PM PDT by driftdiver (No More Obama! - The corruption has not changed despite all our hopes.)
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To: Truth is a Weapon

“McCain will win the election when this becomes public if it is true.”

—This will not become public because the MSM will not allow it.


180 posted on 10/12/2008 7:06:49 PM PDT by zwerni (*** PALIN/mccain 2008 ***)
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To: driftdiver
In 6-12 months we freepers will be sent to education camps in North Dakota.

NOPE, you will get sent to the east side of Detroit.

181 posted on 10/12/2008 7:07:50 PM PDT by BRL
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To: ClearCase_guy
Who would desire a constitutional crisis that might put our entire nation in jeopardy?

Given their recent behavior with this bailout, I don't trust our elected officials to make changes in our constitution.
182 posted on 10/12/2008 7:08:14 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Paying taxes for bank bailouts is apparently the patriotic thing to do. [/sarc])
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority

I meant if he won and then was discovered not eligible...whatever the scenario, there will be riots.


183 posted on 10/12/2008 7:08:45 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: pissant

184 posted on 10/12/2008 7:09:35 PM PDT by RasterMaster (CHANGE is not a destination - HOPE is not a strategy)
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To: ClearCase_guy

The constitutional crisis would get violent. ANd our side would win.


185 posted on 10/12/2008 7:10:45 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: RasterMaster

Barack Hussein Soetoro Mohammed Obama: Crypto muslim


186 posted on 10/12/2008 7:11:32 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: jtal
Yes but the birth mother was a citizen - why wouldn’t this make him a citizen?

Once again,for the 1000th time, he has ONE US citizen parent, when you only have one parent who is a US citizen then that parent must meet a time criteria, living in the US for so many years after a certain age, I believe it is 14 or 16 years of age, if they do not meet that criteria and the child is born outside of the US they are not natural born US citizens,or any type of US citizen, period. Obama's mother didn't meet that criteria therefore if he was born in Kenya he is not eligible for the office of President and in fact is an illegal alien.

This needs to be cleared up, if he really has a legal birth certificate showing a Hawaiian birth he needs to produce it, why wouldn't he? McCain had to show his records because he was born in the canal zone. The COLB he put on the net is fake and even if it isn't it doesn't prove birth in Hawaii. His sister has a Hawaiian COLB and we know she was born in Indonesia. She was registered after she moved to Hawaii. COLB proves absolutely nothing.

187 posted on 10/12/2008 7:12:39 PM PDT by calex59
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To: meyer

He threw his WHITE maternal grandmother, the American, under the bus.

His black paternal grandmother, the Kenyan, he holds in high honor.


188 posted on 10/12/2008 7:13:13 PM PDT by Tucker39 (I Tim. 1:15b " .....Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am chief.")
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To: pissant
It is funny that this same information has been spinning around so much I feel as if it the wheel of a bus and I have been thrown under it.

When is the U.S. Justice Department going to get the answers that we cannot get?

189 posted on 10/12/2008 7:15:28 PM PDT by jonrick46
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To: CharlotteVRWC

Please elaborate.


190 posted on 10/12/2008 7:16:25 PM PDT by The Mayor ( In Gods works we see His hand; in His Word we hear His heart)
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To: slag

The wite grandmother, Madelyn Dunham, was interviewed once in a tightly controlled 30 minute interview by David Mendell in 2004. She has refused to comment since that time. Now she suffers from severe osteoporosis and had a corneal transplant this past summer. When contacted by reporters she tells them she is not well. She will be 86 on October 26th. Perhaps the campaign didn’t like her speaking her mind in the one interview when she said she didn’t trust what foreigners told her and her description of Obama Sr. as “straaaaaaaaange” with an emphasis and elongation on the “a”.


191 posted on 10/12/2008 7:16:58 PM PDT by Chief Engineer
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To: pissant

“His grandmother bragged that her grandson is about to be President of the United States and is so proud because she was present DURING HIS BIRTH IN KENYA, in the delivery room.”

I have read this over and over again but never has anyone ever provided a source. I wish someone could provide the article in which she says this.


192 posted on 10/12/2008 7:17:07 PM PDT by Albertafriend
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To: Miss Didi

Thanks. Any links to Ed Hale in possession of Obama’s birth certificate?

A lot of Hillary supporters hate Obama for how he stole it from Hillary. The guy has a pattern of this.


193 posted on 10/12/2008 7:17:22 PM PDT by Frantzie
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To: pissant

“At that time, Barry was also praying in a Catholic way, but Barry was Muslim. He was registered as a Muslim because his father was Muslim.” Barry’s first-grade teacher Israella Dharmawan told the San Francisco Times

“Barry was a Muslim. He went to the mosque,” boyhood buddy Zulfin Adi told the Times.

“My whole family was Muslim, and most of the people I knew were Muslim,” half sister Maya told another reporter.

In the third grade, Obama transferred to a public school, where he also registered as a Muslim. Students at the school attended weekly religion lessons about Islam which were taught by Muslims.

In his autobiography, Dreams From My Father, Obama mentioned studying the Quran and describing the public school as “a Muslim school.”

http://www.usvetdsp.com/jan08/obama_lou%20tribe.htm


194 posted on 10/12/2008 7:17:47 PM PDT by RasterMaster (CHANGE is not a destination - HOPE is not a strategy)
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To: Albertafriend

Google it


195 posted on 10/12/2008 7:17:49 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: manc

I thought Sean was rather obnoxious tonight... he has to stop cutting off his guests comments.


196 posted on 10/12/2008 7:17:49 PM PDT by tflabo (:)
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To: calex59

Just copy and paste that response to a word document, because I have a feeling you’ll be needing a lot very soon.


197 posted on 10/12/2008 7:18:29 PM PDT by CommieCutter (I'm voting for Sarah.......and that other guy.)
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To: pissant

Looks like Arnie can become President.


198 posted on 10/12/2008 7:18:56 PM PDT by igoramus08
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To: xkaydet65

You never know. This is just conjecture on my part but think of the immortality in pulling the biggest scam in history. Not too bad for the rejected son of a Kenyan, then given to his grandparents by his mother while she stayed in Indonesia with husband #2 - who ended up being raised in a world that apparently always left him feeling as though he didn’t belong.

No wonder he doesn’t really like the US - it’s where he was shuttled off to when his parents preferred to be elsewhere.


199 posted on 10/12/2008 7:18:58 PM PDT by Aria ("An America that could elect Sarah Palin might still save itself." Vin Suprynowicz)
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To: atomicweeder

btt


200 posted on 10/12/2008 7:19:01 PM PDT by Ciexyz
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