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Palin's Failin' (Noonan Barf Alert)
Wall Street Journal ^ | 10/17/08 | Peggy Noonan

Posted on 10/16/2008 10:11:33 PM PDT by acsuc99

But we have seen Mrs. Palin on the national stage for seven weeks now, and there is little sign that she has the tools, the equipment, the knowledge or the philosophical grounding one hopes for, and expects, in a holder of high office. She is a person of great ambition, but the question remains: What is the purpose of the ambition? She wants to rise, but what for? For seven weeks I've listened to her, trying to understand if she is Bushian or Reaganite—a spender, to speak briefly, whose political decisions seem untethered to a political philosophy, and whose foreign policy is shaped by a certain emotionalism, or a conservative whose principles are rooted in philosophy, and whose foreign policy leans more toward what might be called romantic realism, and that is speak truth, know America, be America, move diplomatically, respect public opinion, and move within an awareness and appreciation of reality. But it's unclear whether she is Bushian or Reaganite. She doesn't think aloud. She just . . . says things. Her supporters accuse her critics of snobbery: Maybe she's not a big "egghead" but she has brilliant instincts and inner toughness. But what instincts? "I'm Joe Six-Pack"? She does not speak seriously but attempts to excite sensation—"palling around with terrorists." If the Ayers case is a serious issue, treat it seriously. She is not as thoughtful or persuasive as Joe the Plumber, who in an extended cable interview Thursday made a better case for the Republican ticket than the Republican ticket has made. In the past two weeks she has spent her time throwing out tinny lines to crowds she doesn't, really, understand.

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KEYWORDS: gopcoup; handwringers; mccainpalin; noonan; obama; palin; palinderangment; pds; peggynoonan; peggywho; poisonpen; rinorevolution
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To: Chaguito

Funny I googled “elitist prick” and also got “Peggy Noonan”.

101 posted on 10/16/2008 10:49:22 PM PDT by TheFourthMagi
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To: El Gato

no, if I lived in Manhattan, I would be beyond redemption. I would be like my brother in law...shudders.

102 posted on 10/16/2008 10:49:59 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Good job, Canada!)
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To: St. Louis Conservative
You know Sarah is choking on the Global Warming Hoax. We can only hope when they get in they pull the plug on that deal.

We are all worried about taxes, hell Global Warming is a classic Cloward Piven Strategy if there ever was one. Raise income taxes and crush business with BS carbon taxes +++++.

Obama wants what Chavez has Government control of natural resources and the means of production,

103 posted on 10/16/2008 10:51:40 PM PDT by Blacksheep (Implement the voter suppression techniques now! ah............. what are they again?)
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i see Katie Couric copied Sarahs hair stlye tonight at the big dinner....its on Drudge. heheh

104 posted on 10/16/2008 10:52:17 PM PDT by basalt
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To: All

Peggy Noonan — please keep writing.
You apparently want attention so badly that you’ll write anything.

Keep writing — you’re writing yourself out of the job market.
That’s sad, but I guess that’s the way you want it.

105 posted on 10/16/2008 10:52:38 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: Melian

You give her way too much consideration. The woman is simply a dried up old bitch. She has surrendered her soul.

106 posted on 10/16/2008 10:54:43 PM PDT by gost2
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thats what i think Sarah is having a hard time with in these interviews....from day 1, shes had to follow the Mccain line, half of which probably makes her want to gag.

107 posted on 10/16/2008 10:54:56 PM PDT by basalt
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To: kingattax

Now I’m thinking about that and I can’t stop laughing.

108 posted on 10/16/2008 10:55:20 PM PDT by GiveEmDubya (You go girl!)
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To: DryFly

Are you Peggy Noonan?

109 posted on 10/16/2008 10:55:37 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: Williams

“Sarah Palin’s record and policy positions are an open book, I can tell you her motivations they are well known.”

I had that discussion with my elderly mom that was wary that Palin didn’t have enough experience. I told my mom that what tells me the most about Sarah is her values. Conservative values. Family values. Christian values. Decision making based on those fundamentals will be the correct ones, and that is the best experience you can have.

I then went on to tell my mom about Sarah getting a pipeline started that has been talked about since 1974. About defeating a former governor and an incumbent governor in an election. 85% of Alaskans love her (she must be doing something right). Etc.

110 posted on 10/16/2008 10:56:32 PM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant, Never Fearful)
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To: HutchKeeper

>> “Taking to pieces is the trade of those who cannot construct.” - R W Emerson


111 posted on 10/16/2008 10:56:40 PM PDT by Gene Eric
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To: acsuc99
At any rate, come and get me, copper.

David Brock, Andrew Sullivan, Kathleen Parker, Peggy Noonan.

112 posted on 10/16/2008 10:57:42 PM PDT by TChad
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To: acsuc99
I think Noonan is jealous. Just because a woman is smart and a good writer doesn't mean that the right woman can't make her feel a little inadequate. I think Palin does that to Noonan.
113 posted on 10/16/2008 10:58:16 PM PDT by ethical
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To: acsuc99

Noonan’s swoonin’.... (over obama)

114 posted on 10/16/2008 10:59:24 PM PDT by Heart of Georgia (McCain/Palin 08)
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To: acsuc99

I’m so sick of this bitch.

115 posted on 10/16/2008 11:00:24 PM PDT by montag813
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To: GiveEmDubya


116 posted on 10/16/2008 11:02:08 PM PDT by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: NinoFan

Noonan’s loonin’

117 posted on 10/16/2008 11:02:53 PM PDT by Abe XVI
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To: acsuc99
Ms. Noonan,

The only possible reason for this critique of Sarah before the election, is a belief on your part that she is so flawed, that an Obama presidency would be better for the country.

If you do not see this, you are stupid. If you see it, you are dangerously stupid.

118 posted on 10/16/2008 11:03:37 PM PDT by mwilli20 ("I also have a bracelet?" Let's make Sen. Government an "also ran"!)
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To: acsuc99

Peggy has turned into such a c-word.

sorry her character and judgement seems to be fading right alongside her once vaunted looks

i have come to loathe these beltway psuedo conservatives

Barnes, Chucky, Billie.....Parker....Will

EFF the whole bunch.

We got plenty of stand up conservative folks without their sorry “used to write for the New Republic Neo Con asses”

Brit....I give him a pass, he’s sorta in ahard place.

and hail Greta while we’re at it.

119 posted on 10/16/2008 11:05:28 PM PDT by wardaddy (Sarah Palin is descended from Bodicea)
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To: Williams
Sarah Palin’s record and policy positions are an open book, I can tell you her motivations they are well known.

Truth be told, as a governor, she has more real leadership experience than Obama/Biden/McCain combined. There's a reason why sitting and past Senators are not often elected to President, but Governors are.

120 posted on 10/16/2008 11:15:25 PM PDT by altair (I'm voting for Ron Paul in the primary, if I'm allowed to ...)
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To: acsuc99

ugh. Noonan sounds like she thinks Governor Palin marched into McCain’s campaign office and told them she was taking over. So far, I haven’t observed the kind of “ambition” in Palin that Noonan seems so worried about. I guess if you can’t just report the facts, you can just make stuff up, huh? Noonan should retire.

121 posted on 10/16/2008 11:50:04 PM PDT by redhead (Alaska: Step out of the bus, and into the food chain.)
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To: acsuc99
One of my favorite political memoirs of all time is Peggy Noonan's "What I Saw at the Revolution". I prefer this book to her more recent book on Reagan ("When Character Was King"), but it was written in 1990 -- only two years after Reagan left office. The memories were fresh and unfiltered by subsequent history and romanticised nostalgia.

What clues do we gain about Reagan there? Let's turn to the chapter titled "Who Was That Masked Man?". Here are some illuminating passages:

      He was a modest man with an intellect slightly superior to the average.

      He gleams; he is a mystery. He is for everyone there, for everyone who worked with him. None of them understand him. In private they admit it. You say to them, Who was that masked man?, and they shrug, and hypothesize.
      James Baker said, He is the kindest and most impersonal man I ever knew.
       An aide said, Beneath the lava flow of warmth there is something impervious as a glacier...
       A woman who knew him said, He lived life on the surface where the small waves are, not deep down where the heavy currents tug. And yet he has great powers of empathy.

      I’ll tell you something surprising: This sunny man touched so many Americans in part because they perceived his pain. They saw beyond the television image, they saw the flesh and blood, they felt those wounds, they caught that poignancy.
       The reports and correspondents and smart guys, they missed it. But the people saw. They thought, Look at the courage it took at his age to be shot in the chest by a kid with a gun and go through healing and therapy and go out there again and continue being president, continue waving at the crowds as he walks to the car. Think of the courage that old man had!

      He was a compulsive entertainer: He couldn’t not do it...All he needed was a cane, a straw hat, and a glove – Is everybody happy?

       (It was a generous impulse, wasn’t it, to want to give people a lift? Or was it only or partly that he needed that laugh, needed the approval?)

      He really always played himself; the vivid have no choice. That’s why he seemed both phony and authentic. Because he was. He was really acting but the part he played was Ronald Reagan.

      But he held to the unfashionable. This man who wanted to be loved stood fast to his views and voiced them even though he knew the cultural leaders (by whom he wanted to be accepted, in whose movies her wanted to star) had contempt for what he thought...
      [H]is cultural betters would think, He’s obviously sincere, but he’s so…simplistic. Or: unsophisticated. Or: such a radical, and dangerous.

      Those who grew impatient with him or frustrated or resentful tried to cover it up. But sooner or later – and you really saw this in the Reagan years – what they were thinking could be seen in a sentence shot out, in a look or a shake of the head. They were thinking something like what Sergeant Warden said of the captain in From Here to Eternity: “He’d choke on his own spit if I weren’t here to clear his throat for him.” They’d say, with a certain edge, “The president isn’t a detail man” (the fool doesn’t know Antarctica’s the one on the bottom!); they’d say, “The president is a big picture man” (He wouldn’t know a fact if it ran up his nose!). You could see it in Deaver’s book, all the unexpressed hostility seeping out in those ‘The president of course has an amiable temperament, but he’s usually content to allow someone else to make the decisions’ sentences.

      We made so much of those winks.

      [His sense of humor] got him in trouble sometimes. After “We begin bombing in five minutes,” the aides of the first administration were frustrated because they knew his humor wasn’t being directed.

122 posted on 10/17/2008 12:03:26 AM PDT by GipperGal
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To: GipperGal

I have that book. I am ashamed to say that I adored Peggy Noonan. Yes, it was often sappy, but I still ate it up like an ice cream with just a bit too much syrup poured over the top.

Not any more. Never again will I purchase or read anything signed Peggy Noonan. Peggy, get over it. Kay Bailey wasn’t picked and with good reason. Your envy is glaringly obvious when you trash Sarah who is everything you admired in Ronald Reagan.

123 posted on 10/17/2008 12:19:00 AM PDT by publana (John McCain/PALIN 08)
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To: mwilli20
If you do not see this, you are stupid. If you see it, you are dangerously stupid.

She will become less dangerous when her employment at the Wall Street Journal is terminated.

124 posted on 10/17/2008 12:21:40 AM PDT by TChad
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To: acsuc99

Wow. Noonan can’t seem to stop making a complete jackass out of herself.
It’s a real head-shaker. Noonan used to be thoughtful and eloquent, and now she’s just petty and small.

125 posted on 10/17/2008 12:24:13 AM PDT by Lancey Howard (Go, Phillies!)
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To: acsuc99

Peggy you are a bitter old shrew!!!! Go back to your penthouse and sip sherry with your liberal friends. You are a has-been. Sarah Palin makes no sense to you because you have no idea how the ‘little’ people live. She gets us, because she is us, You don’t because you’re not!!!

Have fun in your higher tax bracket with your man Barry!!!

126 posted on 10/17/2008 12:35:09 AM PDT by Anti-Hillary (Yo Barry, IF FOR 20 YEARS YOU STAY IN THE PEW, IT'S BECAUSE YOU SHARE THE VIEW!!!!!)
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To: wardaddy
Excellent post.

The real mystery is, why do formerly serious writers like Noonan and Kathleen Parker dedicate entire columns to the freaking Republican VP(!!) candidate, even as everybody else is talking about the national debate that starred the top-of-the-ticket candidates, and Sara is out on the stump being rigorously ignored by most of the Democrat "mainstream" newsrooms anyway?

There is only one reason I can think of, and it boils down to primitive female cattiness and petty jealousy.
And wow, is it ever ugly.

127 posted on 10/17/2008 12:39:04 AM PDT by Lancey Howard (Go, Phillies!)
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To: wardaddy

What’s more, there is absolutely no point to Noonan’s column. It serves no purpose. Does she think McCain will “see the light” and dump Palin? (Sure, that’ll happen.) The only rational conclusion one can reach is that Noonan is a shrew, and shame on the Wall Street Journal for giving her a venue for her childish pouting.

128 posted on 10/17/2008 12:49:29 AM PDT by Lancey Howard (Go, Phillies!)
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To: Lancey Howard

What struck me about was it was its lazy editing. She spends one-third of the column taking swipes at other candidates before finally zeroing on the headline topic of the piece.

I get the sense she threw this all together at the last minute off the top of her head to meet the terms of her contract and WSJ just printed it.

129 posted on 10/17/2008 12:59:02 AM PDT by Philo-Junius (One precedent creates another. They soon accumulate and constitute law.)
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To: acsuc99

When is Peggy going to run for office? She seems to have all the answers.

130 posted on 10/17/2008 1:28:17 AM PDT by FlyVet
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To: Lancey Howard
It serves no purpose.

It helps Obama. That is the purpose.

131 posted on 10/17/2008 1:51:28 AM PDT by TChad
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To: catpuppy
Your columns are becoming embarrassingly nonsensical.

Oh, but they're so lyrical. /s
132 posted on 10/17/2008 4:39:12 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Jim DeMint: "If you took the name off the top, the Senate could pass the Communist Manifesto.")
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To: acsuc99

I just read this article. What is with these conservatives? Why do they hate that Palin doesn’t sound like a pompous liberal arts professor? Everyone needs to go to the comment section for this and post something. I already did, hopefully it’ll be “approved” soon. I’m Paula.

133 posted on 10/17/2008 4:45:14 AM PDT by ivybelle1 (Sarah Palin, Peggy Noonen, elitism)
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To: libbylu

Who loves Palin?
Ann Coulter, Michelle Malkin, and Laura Ingraham. The only ladies who matter. :-)

134 posted on 10/17/2008 4:45:15 AM PDT by ivybelle1 (Sarah Palin, Peggy Noonen, elitism)
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To: NinoFan

I am sure these are Peggy’s honest opinions. But they are dumb.

And I wish she would just shut up. Her prose has become even more annoying now that her “ideas” add no value anyway.

135 posted on 10/17/2008 5:33:30 AM PDT by fightinJAG (Rush was right: You never win by losing!)
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To: acsuc99

Peggy Noonan should wake up every morning and thank God that she was never a great enough person to be a candidate for Vice President of the United States. Her life is far less meaningfull. She will never be the person Sarah is. She will never have the courage or the guts that Sarah has.

If, god forbid something happens to John McCain. Sarah will step up and lead the country. and will do everything she can to keep us safe.

Sarah is a governor and could be VP soon. What did Peggy Noonan do ? Write speeches in the 80s ?

Peggy Noonan is now a bottom feeder.

136 posted on 10/17/2008 6:11:08 AM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative (A true patriot must always be willing to defend his country...against its government...)
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To: acsuc99

Poor Peggy. You’re one of “them” now. Maybe you and Chris Buckley (aka Truman Capote wannabe) can have tea sometime.

137 posted on 10/17/2008 6:15:17 AM PDT by Puddleglum
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To: acsuc99

Peggy, you should be ashamed of yourself for denigrating a good conservative woman. You’re morphing into a old elitist leftist and it’s not very becoming. Please, don’t ever refer to yourself as a conservative anymore. I’m sorry that I’ve taken time in the past to read your columns. You’re a disgrace and a backstabber to the conservative cause. Or is it just the green eyed monster??

138 posted on 10/17/2008 6:31:42 AM PDT by GOPBlonde
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To: acsuc99

Palin’s hot......Noonan’s not.

139 posted on 10/17/2008 6:50:14 AM PDT by windsorknot
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Sheesh. What an angry woman. She’s morphing into Maureen Dowd. Oh well, enjoy the cocktails with Brooks, Parker and Buckley, Ms. Noonan. No soup for you at the WH though when McCain and Palin take office....

140 posted on 10/17/2008 7:55:44 AM PDT by eureka! (Hey mushy middle: Who is Barrack 0bama? Wait until you learn the answer. It's not pretty.)
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To: acsuc99

Noonan is so freakin’ jealous of Palin she’s turned in to a monster. Shamful woman.

141 posted on 10/17/2008 8:16:23 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (II Cor. 4:8-9)
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To: acsuc99

Methinks Peggy is more sensitive to studio lights than some, she has been a bit daft of late, imo.

143 posted on 10/17/2008 9:38:35 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Obammy '08 - "I think when ya spread the wealth around, It's good for everybody!")
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To: acsuc99

I think the situation for Peggy is a bit more than simple jealousy. She sees the end of the Reagan Legacy coming. Let me explain that a bit.

Ronald Reagan has been the inspiration for our party for many decades, but Ronald Reagan was a man of his times. The perfect man, as it turned out. He accomplished more than most Presidents can even begin to contemplate. Sarah Palin has been called “The New Ronald Reagan’ but I think that may be wrong.

Sarah is something new. I think she resembles Teddy Roosevelt in many ways. The “can do” attitude....not just “can do” but “H3ll yes! let’s go do it, we’re American!”.

Sarah’s charisma is overwhelming and it is less due to her beauty than most of the elites would like to admit. This is a woman who typifies the best of America in the 21st century. She is the same type of American who starts and runs high tech companies, who runs a trucking firm with her husband, the same type of American that many of us would like to be when we grow up. The type of American who could be Vice President and who could lead the country well and enthusiastically, accomplishing much in very short timeframes.
I typified her as somewhat like Teddy Roosevelt which may lead some to think of her as being a creature of the past. But that is not my intent. She resembles him in her grasp of what makes America truly great. The high energy, the firm grasp on the difference between right and wrong (an American signature attribute) and the unwillingness to back up when challenged in her beliefs, the willingness to follow through on her beliefs, the love for the family, the willingness to use our own resources for the good of the people of America as well as others around the world, these are the hallmark of a true American.

The second time I listened to her speak, this phrase (about America) kept running through my mind:

“The future’s so bright, we gotta wear shades.”

Sarah is the future of America.

So let’s put on our shades and go vote for McCain/Palin. Let’s speak gently with our friends and tell them about our country’s bright future. It may turn some heads and some votes.

144 posted on 10/17/2008 9:48:58 AM PDT by TexanToTheCore
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To: ivybelle1

Women of spirit. They recognize a soul-sister.

145 posted on 10/17/2008 11:29:50 AM PDT by RobbyS (ECCE homo)
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To: NinoFan

Some people just don’t know when to retire.

146 posted on 10/17/2008 3:14:03 PM PDT by mort56
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To: acsuc99

Peggy, if McCain didn’t have Palin, obama would be ahead by 20%.

147 posted on 10/17/2008 3:44:38 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: NinoFan

Damn right! She really is irritating and useless. She is just another latte sipping geezerette in Manhattan.

148 posted on 10/17/2008 3:44:41 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Right Wing Assault

Yes Peggy, Joe Biden is a much better VP choice than Sarah Palin. I’ve got a three letter word for you. JOBS JOBS JOBS!

149 posted on 10/17/2008 5:52:17 PM PDT by Crooked Constituent
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To: acsuc99

Just saw Peggy Noonan’s latest attack on Sarah Palin. I have now had it with her. What the Hell happened to Noonan??
She used to be a Rock Ribbed Conservative and admired and worked for Ronald Reagan, now she has become the worst kind of RINO and instead of helping Palin she joins in with the rest of the MSM Mob and denigrates her.
Noonan is now just just a dried up wench who used to be on the right side of the good fight and now living in New York has made her just another Liberal Republican in Love with herself.
Whatever respect I once had for her is now gone.
If McCain and Pailn can win this thing I hope it sticks in the Craw of her and every other stinking RINO!!!!!!!!!

150 posted on 10/17/2008 5:55:17 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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