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Obama and Ahmadinejad
forbes.com ^ | Oct 26, 2008 | Amir Taheri

Posted on 10/27/2008 8:08:52 PM PDT by seastay

Obama and Ahmadinejad

Is Barack Obama the "promised warrior" coming to help the Hidden Imam of Shiite Muslims conquer the world?

The question has made the rounds in Iran since last month, when a pro-government Web site published a Hadith (or tradition) from a Shiite text of the 17th century. The tradition comes from Bahar al-Anvar (meaning Oceans of Light) by Mullah Majlisi, a magnum opus in 132 volumes and the basis of modern Shiite Islam.

According to the tradition, Imam Ali Ibn Abi-Talib (the prophet's cousin and son-in-law) prophesied that at the End of Times and just before the return of the Mahdi, the Ultimate Saviour, a "tall black man will assume the reins of government in the West." Commanding "the strongest army on earth," the new ruler in the West will carry "a clear sign" from the third imam, whose name was Hussein Ibn Ali. The tradition concludes: "Shiites should have no doubt that he is with us."

In a curious coincidence Obama's first and second names--Barack Hussein--mean "the blessing of Hussein" in Arabic and Persian. His family name, Obama, written in the Persian alphabet, reads O Ba Ma, which means "he is with us," the magic formula in Majlisi's tradition.

Mystical reasons aside, the Khomeinist establishment sees Obama's rise as another sign of the West's decline and the triumph of Islam. Obama's promise to seek unconditional talks with the Islamic Republic is cited as a sign that the U.S. is ready to admit defeat. Obama's position could mean abandoning three resolutions passed by the United Nations Security Council setting conditions that Iran should meet to avoid sanctions. Seeking unconditional talks with the Khomeinists also means an admission of moral equivalence between the U.S. and the Islamic Republic. It would imply an end to the description by the U.S. of the regime as a "systematic violator of human rights."

Obama has abandoned claims by all U.S. administrations in the past 30 years that Iran is "a state sponsor of terrorism." Instead, he uses the term "violent groups" to describe Iran-financed outfits such as Hamas and Hezbollah.

Obama has also promised to attend a summit of the Organization of the Islamic Conference within the first 100 days of his presidency. Such a move would please the mullahs, who have always demanded that Islam be treated differently, and that Muslim nations act as a bloc in dealings with Infidel nations.

Obama's election would boost President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's chances of winning a second term next June. Ahmadinejad's entourage claim that his "steadfastness in resisting the American Great Satan" was a factor in helping Obama defeat "hardliners" such as Hillary Clinton and, later, it hopes, John McCain.

"President Ahmadinejad has taught Americans a lesson," says Hassan Abbasi, a "strategic adviser" to the Iranian president. "This is why they are now choosing someone who understands Iran's power." The Iranian leader's entourage also point out that Obama copied his campaign slogan "Yes, We Can" from Ahmadinejad's "We Can," used four years ago.

A number of Khomeinist officials have indicated their preference for Obama over McCain, who is regarded as an "enemy of Islam." A Foreign Ministry spokesman says Iran does not wish to dictate the choice of the Americans but finds Obama "a better choice for everyone." Ali Larijani, Speaker of the Islamic Majlis, Iran's ersatz parliament, has gone further by saying the Islamic Republic "prefers to see Barack Obama in the White House" next year.

Tehran's penchant for Obama, reflected in the official media, increased when the Illinois senator chose Joseph Biden as his vice-presidential running mate. Biden was an early supporter of the Khomeinist revolution in 1978-1979 and, for the past 30 years, has been a consistent advocate of recognizing the Islamic Republic as a regional power. He has close ties with Khomeinist lobbyists in the U.S. and has always voted against sanctions on Iran.

Ahmadinejad has described the U.S. as a "sunset" (ofuli) power as opposed to Islam, which he says is a "sunrise" (toluee) power. Last summer, he inaugurated an international conference called World Without America--attended by anti-Americans from all over the world, including the U.S.

Seen from Tehran, Obama's election would demoralize the U.S. armed forces by casting doubt on their victories in Iraq and Afghanistan, if not actually transforming them into defeat. American retreat from the Middle East under Obama would enable the Islamic Republic to pursue hegemony of the region. Tehran is especially interested in dominating Iraq, thus consolidating a new position that extends its power to the Mediterranean through Syria and Lebanon.

During the World Without America conference, several speakers speculated that Obama would show "understanding of Muslim grievances" with regard to Palestine. Ahmadinejad hopes to persuade a future President Obama to adopt the "Iranian solution for Palestine," which aims at creating a single state in which Jews would quickly become a minority.

Judging by anecdotal evidence and the buzz among Iranian bloggers, while the ruling Khomeinists favor Obama, the mass of Iranians regard (and dislike) the Democrat candidate as an appeaser of the mullahs. Iran, along with Israel, is the only country in the Middle East where the United States remains popular. An Obama presidency, perceived as friendly to the oppressive regime in Tehran, may change that.

Amir Taheri is the author of 10 books on Iran, the Middle East and Islam. His new book The Persian Night: Iran Under the Khomeinist Revolution will be published by Encounter Books in November.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: iran; obama
This opinion piece originally appearing on forbes.com “mysteriously” is no longer available on Forbes even though Google shows it existed, mysteriously Google dos not have a cache file for this story either, but thankfully the story above is preserved in the mirrored site linked above.

Original story was here:

http://www.forbes.com/opinions/2008/10/26/obama-iran-ahmadinejad-oped-cx_at_1026taheri.html

1 posted on 10/27/2008 8:08:53 PM PDT by seastay
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To: seastay

Wouldn’t it be a real hoot if Obama was to NOT be available for the nomination?

That would really put a monkey wrench in Islam’s prophesy.


2 posted on 10/27/2008 8:11:44 PM PDT by Daniel Ramsey (Live from Wasilla, Alaska and saying NO to Barack HUSSEIN Obama)
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To: LucyT; pissant; null and void; Kevmo; PhilDragoo; SE Mom; RaceBannon; bvw; BIGLOOK; ...

Even if you saw it on the other thread already, come here and bump it.


3 posted on 10/27/2008 8:16:17 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Calpernia; Ernest_at_the_Beach; nuconvert; MeekOneGOP; Fred Nerks; LucyT; pissant; Squantos; ...

4 posted on 10/27/2008 8:18:49 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: Calpernia

Well, if every terorist and communist is pulling for Osama Hussein, its a safe bet he will be poison to our republic.


5 posted on 10/27/2008 8:22:48 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Calpernia

Hmmm....a cabal, Nut Cracker?


6 posted on 10/27/2008 8:24:13 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress! It's the sensible solution to restore Command to the People.)
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To: pissant

Well, if every terorist and communist is pulling for Osama Hussein, its a safe bet he will be poison to our republic.


No kidding!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


7 posted on 10/27/2008 8:26:31 PM PDT by unkus
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To: seastay; nuconvert
Seen from Tehran, Obama's election would demoralize the U.S. armed forces by casting doubt on their victories in Iraq and Afghanistan, if not actually transforming them into defeat. American retreat from the Middle East under Obama would enable the Islamic Republic to pursue hegemony of the region. Tehran is especially interested in dominating Iraq, thus consolidating a new position that extends its power to the Mediterranean through Syria and Lebanon.

I wonder why Forbes pulled the link on this story...

8 posted on 10/27/2008 8:44:54 PM PDT by GOPJ (Baghdad Bob had an excuse - there was a boot on his neck. What's the MSM's excuse?)
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To: seastay
“”mysteriously” is no longer available”

I wonder if the reason it was pulled is that it was made up? I know that some Christians can twist scripture or create novel interpretation of scriptures so that current events sound like end time prophesy when it is really just a bunch of guesses.

Maybe the Iranian cult is like that. Some Imam is just making stuff up to sound like it is inspired scripture.

For example, it says that a tall black man from the west will come leading the world's largest army. That sounds fake to me. Would a medieval writer say something like that? It sounds contrived to fit current events today.

Could be wrong, but I wonder if the whole story if fake?

9 posted on 10/27/2008 8:58:04 PM PDT by garjog (Used to be liberals were just people to disagree with. Now they are a threat to our existence.)
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To: garjog

The author Amir Taheri, and NRO contributor, is an Iranian author of ten books on the Middle East and Islam. Taheri is reachable through www.benadorassociates.com.

Amir Taheri (Wikipedia) is an Iranian-born neoconservative journalist and author based in Europe.[1][2] His writings focus on the Middle East affairs and topics related to Islamist terrorism.

Taheri’s biography at Benador Associates[3] states that he was educated in Tehran, London, and Paris. He was executive editor-in-chief of Kayhan, Iran’s main daily newspaper, from 1972 to 1979,[4] and a member of the board of trustees of the Iranian Institute for International Political and Economic Studies in Tehran from 1973 to 1979.[4] Taheri has also been editor-in-chief of Jeune Afrique (1985-1987),[4] Middle East correspondent for the London Sunday Times (1980-1984),[4] and has written for the Pakistan Daily Times, The Daily Telegraph, The Guardian and The Daily Mail. He was a member of the executive board of the International Press Institute from 1984 to 1992.

He has been a columnist for the pan-Arab daily Asharq Al-Awsat and its sister publication Arab News, International Herald Tribune, The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, The Los Angeles Times, Newsday, and The Washington Post. He has also written for Die Welt, Der Spiegel, Die Zeit and Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung in Germany, La Repubblica in Italy, L’Express, Politique internationale (where he is part of the Consulting Committee) and Le Nouvel Observateur in France, and El Mundo in Spain. He is currently a contributor to the German weekly Focus magazine, the National Review and the New York Post.

Taheri is a commentator for CNN and is frequently interviewed by other media including the BBC and the RFI. He has written several TV documentaries dealing with various issues of the Muslim world. He has interviewed many world leaders including Presidents Richard Nixon, Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton, King Faisal, Mikhail Gorbachev, President Anwar Sadat, Chou En-lai, Indira Gandhi and Chancellor Helmut Kohl.

Taheri has published several books, some of which have been translated into 20 languages. In 1988 Publishers Weekly in New York chose his study of Islamist terrorism, Holy Terror: Inside the World of Islamic Terrorism, as one of the best books of the year. Another of his books, The Cauldron: The Middle East Behind The Headlines (1988) was used as a textbook in colleges in the United Kingdom and Canada.[citation needed]
[edit] Jesse Jackson Article
On October 14, 2008, Taheri wrote an article stating that at the first World Policy Forum, Rev Jesse Jackson told participants that Barack Obama would implement fundamental changes in US foreign policy towards Israel. It was later noted that the name of the conference is the World Policy Conference. Additionally, Jesse Jackson was not a speaker at the event, and denounced Taheri for “selectively imposing his own point of view and distorting mine.” Jackson said he “stands forthrightly for the security and stability of Israel, its protection from any form of hostility and a peaceful, nonviolent resolution to coexisting with its Palestinian neighbors” [20]


10 posted on 10/27/2008 9:09:20 PM PDT by seastay
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT; milford421

Ping.


11 posted on 10/28/2008 1:00:23 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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To: All

forbes has pulled the article:

Joels Trumpet » Blog Archive » Obama and Ahmadinejad
27 Oct 2008
www.joelstrumpet.com/?p=1548


12 posted on 10/29/2008 11:22:18 AM PDT by Righting
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