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Did The "Chicago Way" Work for Obama in Hawaii?
Right Side News ^ | October 27, 2008 | Joan Swirsky

Posted on 10/28/2008 8:13:18 PM PDT by Kukai

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To: El Gato

Good, but point being that either way, Obama is not eligible to be President.

Born in Kenya? Not eligible.

Born in Hawaii? Not eligible because of Indonesian laws of no dual citizenship.

Not eligible.


61 posted on 10/28/2008 9:20:29 PM PDT by IreneE (Live for nothing or die for something.)
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To: Vicki
I will never understand how he can be on the ticket without providing this birth certificate.

I'm not sure a birth certificate is really necessary. If nothing is uncovered proving he was born someplace else, he'll get the benefit of the doubt.

62 posted on 10/28/2008 9:20:58 PM PDT by nosofar
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To: ckilmer
I think The One looks more like his maternal grandfather, except for pigmentation and a slight difference in his nose, than he looks like either Davis or BHO Sr.

Little Barry on the beach with Grandpa.

Barry on the beach (maybe the same one, in Hawaii anyway) around Jan. 1 '07.

Barry with both maternal grandparents in '79 when he graduated from High School.


63 posted on 10/28/2008 9:23:34 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: blackbart.223
Then he shouldn't have a problem being forthcoming about it.

Why risk it?

64 posted on 10/28/2008 9:26:06 PM PDT by nosofar
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To: doc1019
You'll notice that the Hawaii rules make exception for "a person having a common ancestor with the registrant".

But bottom line, I don't how different Hawaii's rules are, or if they are quite different, why. But they are what they are, and apparently have been for some time.

65 posted on 10/28/2008 9:28:29 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: ncfool

It is too bad someone can’t offer one of Obama’s relatives in Kenya a princely sum to request the original birth certificate. He hasn’t exactly shared the wealth with any of them.


66 posted on 10/28/2008 9:31:02 PM PDT by fireman15
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To: El Gato

But why he is unwilling to disclose his birth certificate is the overall question.


67 posted on 10/28/2008 9:36:57 PM PDT by doc1019 (Why is Obama hiding his birth certificate?)
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To: F15Eagle

The ONLY reason for sealing a birth certificate is after an ADOPTION and NAME CHANGE....Barry Soetoro unavailable for comment?


68 posted on 10/28/2008 9:38:16 PM PDT by RasterMaster (DUmocrats - the party of slavery, sedition, subversion, socialism & surrender)
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To: tophat9000

I think you should recollect your thoughts and post your idea as a vanity tomorrow morning. I have been saying the exact same thing for weeks and trying to think of the best way to orchestrate this under a simple common united theme.


69 posted on 10/28/2008 9:39:17 PM PDT by Gemsbok (Will the real Barry Dunham, Barry Soetoro, Barack J. Obama, Barack Husein Obama...please stand up?)
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To: babydubya1981
"Something stinks in Aloha Land."



70 posted on 10/28/2008 9:40:32 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen.)
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To: IreneE
What is BO hiding? Must be Big.

He is hiding everything that a reasonable person would not hide if they were a U.S. citizen, such as college enrollment tuition (non resident?) etc.

73 posted on 10/28/2008 9:46:41 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: doc1019

“Name unknown”

Try ‘Barry Soetoro’

;-)


74 posted on 10/28/2008 9:48:31 PM PDT by RasterMaster (DUmocrats - the party of slavery, sedition, subversion, socialism & surrender)
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To: blake6900
Does anybody know what the actual protocol is for a president-elect to prove he/she meets the constitutional requirements to take the oath of office? Who’s in charge of ensuring those requirements are met? The Chief Justice of SCOTUS who does the swearing in?

The problem is, there is no protocol. The issue has never come up, only a few candidates were born outside the US, all to two US Citizen parents, and none of them, including John McCain, have hidden the details of their birth.

Thus NO ONE is in charge of verifying eligibility. Although State officials control ballot access, and could establish a requirement for proof of eligibility. But they have not done so.

Traditionally the Chief Justice does the swearing in, but that's not required. LBJ was sworn in by a Federal District Court Judge, Sarah Hughes.. (a Kennedy appointee, who latter went on to run Dallas county jails from the bench, and also was the original judge in Roe Vs. Wade)

75 posted on 10/28/2008 9:53:01 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: F15Eagle

Not as “Barack Obama” if he never filed to have his name changed from his adoptive father.


76 posted on 10/28/2008 9:54:11 PM PDT by RasterMaster (DUmocrats - the party of slavery, sedition, subversion, socialism & surrender)
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To: fireman15
t is too bad someone can’t offer one of Obama’s relatives in Kenya a princely sum to request the original birth certificate. He hasn’t exactly shared the wealth with any of them.

It wouldn't do any good, he has "low Friends in High Places" in Kenya. Namely Raila Odinga, the Prime minister, who gained that office after losing a close election. After which his supporters then went on genocidal rampages and he was given that office in exchange for a calling off his dogs. The rampages included burning a church full of parishioners. A total of around 1500 people died in the aftermath of those elections.

Odinga and Obama in 2006. (the election was in late 2007).

Odinga claimed to be a first cousin of Obama. (He claimed, in a recorded statement that his mother was a sister of Obama Sr.) That is disputed by some. Who knows? But both Odinga and B. Obama Sr, are/were of the same Luo tribe.

77 posted on 10/28/2008 10:10:45 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato
"When I was an Individual Mobilization Augmentee AF reservist, I was required to keep a copy of not only my birth certificate, but those of my children, and a copy of my marriage certificate in my "Go to War" packet. Mine is still in there. The others have since been pressed into other services. College admission, new employment, etc."

Providing my birth certificate last year was a twist on a new rule that I can't or won't explain. Not the point. I had to have background checks to keep my job for years. And I'm not running for president. Standards should also apply to Obama. But you know they won't.

78 posted on 10/28/2008 10:16:49 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: the Real fifi

“...perhaps the Gov sealed it to prevent some state employee from illegally releasing it and subjecting the state to a lawsuit.”

That is the most logical and likely reason; one I would bet on.

However, my out-of-the-box theory is that O got caught in a reverse Sandy Burglar operation. If born in Kenya, O desperately needs a US citizen father (Frank Davis).

By sealing (what ever the document is) the Governor has preserved evidence while awaiting for a member of Congress to object to O’s qualification - subsequent to the Electors delivering their certification to the Congress in December.


79 posted on 10/28/2008 10:21:11 PM PDT by frog in a pot (Is there a definition of "domestic enemies" as used in federal oaths, or is that just lip service?)
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To: frog in a pot
"By sealing (what ever the document is) the Governor has preserved evidence while awaiting for a member of Congress to object to O’s qualification - subsequent to the Electors delivering their certification to the Congress in December."

Last time I looked the law requires proof of citizenship or a green card before you can get a job flipping burgers at Wendy's. Am I missing something here?

80 posted on 10/28/2008 10:33:00 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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