FreePers: I have had an epiphany about our nation's history

various | 11/02/08 | prismsinc

[prismsinc]

After studying the cryptic history of the Democrat candidate for President, Barack Obama Jr., I had an eye-opening revelation about U.S. radicalism: The radical movement we currently know as the "60's" was in fact started in the years following WWII. In the history books (I'm a border Gen-Xer/Boomer), I vividly remember being taught that the Vietnam-era anti-war activists was a 60's phenomenon, and based on how the books assembled the timeline, the 60's were an isolated period in our nation's history. After studying Obama's parents, It has become clear to me that Obama's grandparents were a part of a broad underground Communist network that began in the late 40's, and it was begun by those that privately objected to WWII. This is enlightening me to just how deep this infection is. My Mother-in-law was born in 1938, and I've asked her about her experience with people that were of a radical nature in her time growing up, and she vividly remembers that in fact there were definitely radicals that could be identified, not just by the media, but just going to the local market or coffee shop. It's unclear what exactly triggered this sort of radicalism to infest our culture, but it certainly was NOT isolated to the 60's. It wasn't "idealistic" Kent State style college students that began this movement. It was their 40's era PARENTS!

[J40000]

Up until the Clinton years, these subversive, anti-whatever creeps were only the FRINGE. (Even though our media would tell us otherwise - watching t.v. these days, one would think that in the 60’s, EVERYBODY was a hippie-peacenik protester - FAR from the truth; most people were CLEAN, somewhat normal and had a standard of DECENCY)

When Clinton got elected, that legitimized them. Now they’re like cockroaches in our society who’ve overrun and are trying to take EVERYTHING over.

[Citizen Soldier]

I am currently reading “Dancing Under the Red Star” and it’s about a young Amercian woman in Gorky, USSR during the Depression and WWII and afterwards who is the oly American woman to survive a gulag and return here. Her descriptions of being imprisoned, worked, underfed, underclothed, God not spoken there, it is an amazing true story. I urge anyone to read it and think about what we could face one day if things go bad here.

[wardaddy]

Bingo!

post 30 and someone finally got the right answer

well done!

personally, I blame Magna Carta or better yet Saxon Manorialism

[Vince Ferrer]

As others have said, the history is deeper than that. The American communists were a "peace" movement leading up to WWII because of their support from Stalin, and Stalin had a pact with Hitler, another socialist. When Hitler invaded Russia, however, the communists instantly became pro war.

American communists are pro peace when it allows their fellow travellors outside the US to advance, they are pro intervention when the communists are losing.

[FFranco]

In fact, Communist infiltration of American society goes back a lot further in history than that.

Karl Marx wrote (from Britain) a weekly column for an American newspaper (I think it was the NY Herald Tribune, but I could be wrong), and was a supporter of Abraham Lincoln and the ‘so-called’ Civil War. Makes you think, doesn’t it?

[popdonnelly]

I haven’t seen much information about Obama’s grandparents. His mother was apparently unorthodox in her thinking and probably a Soviet sympathizer. His dad was an African Socialist, an African version of Marxism.

[DakotaGator]

...I had an eye-opening revelation about U.S. radicalism: The radical movement we currently know as the "60's" was in fact started in the years following WWII.

It actually goes further back than that. It goes back to WWI with the Bolsheviks seizing power in Russia. As soon as they were able, those Communists actively infiltrated our society with huge emphasis on labor unions, universities, and government (through the Democrat Party).

This accelerated in WWII as the Soviet Union took advantage of its "ally" status and increased its penetration of the federal government. Remember, WWII was the last war in which Americans were united.

This unity was no accident. While normal Americans were fighting for freedom, our home-grown Communists were fighting to save their ideological motherland - the Soviet Union.

WWII was American Communists' golden opportunity. They had thoroughly penetrated American universities, especially the Ivy League (which they correctly equated with Oxford and Cambridge). They had "their boy" FDR in the White House along with his Ivy League "Wonder Boys" in the Executive Branch. And they had their Democrat Party in solid control of Congress.

So American Communists were allowed to massively infiltrate all aspects of the federal government during WWII. And they continued subverting the American intellectual community.

A big speed-bump was placed in this American Communist' Highway to Hell after WWII by Senator Joe McCarthy. He exposed to the public that there were Communists in our government. And he was correct. Unfortunately, these Communists weren't rooted out!

In the meantime, our universities were totally subverted. And the campus Communists, Fellow Travelers, and Useful Idiots exploded in the late '60s college riots.

It is now 40 years later. The Communists are still in our unions, universities, and government. They are also firmly entrenched in primary and secondary education, most main-stream protestant churches, the "environmental" movement, and the MSM.

As bad as this is, these same people have disgustingly allied themselves with "multiculturalism", illegal alien invasion, and radical Islam. This is treason and these "Americans" are traitors.

So look upon the face of these totalitarians and fear for the Republic...or fight for it! And let your first shot of this fight be your vote on Tuesday!!

[Emperor Palpatine]

"Before WWII there was a large NAZI movement in the US where thousands would dress in NAZI uniforms and fill up Madison Square Garden to rave about National Socialism."


It was called the German-American Bund and was founded by Fritz Kuhn. They used to have big Hitler-like posters of George Washington at their rallies, (please don't barf at the thought.)




A reprobate Catholic priest named Fr. Coughlin preached an Americanized form of Naziism on the radio throughout the 30's.



American aviator Charles Lindbergh went to Germany in the 30's and toured Luftwaffe bases with Hermann Göring where he openly admired Germany's rearmament and their air power. Lindberg was at the time an executive with Pan American Airlines and only shut up when Pan Am CEO Juan Trippe publicly threatened to fire him.

[Earthdweller]

This sums up how they do it in each nation of their enemy.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k6KUDv1wzraWhwlBt1

[FFranco]

The Bund was mainly a German-American organization. Some non-German Americans may have been members, but the majority were German nationals or Americans of German ancestory.

Because of his pro-Nazi views, Lindbergh was not allowed to serve in the military during WWII.

[Paved Paradise]

This is why I am annoyed when people try to put it all on the Boomers. There were lots of radicals way before the Boomers. In fact, case-in-point, David Horowitz, a man I greatly admire, who runs Front Page Magazine and has launched the Terrorist Awareness Network, talks about his own transition from radical socialist to conservative in his book, “Radical Son.” His parents were commies. He was born in the 30’s and his parents of course would have been adults back then and the 40’s of which you speak.

Glad you are educating yourself. “Nothing new under the sun.”

[BIGLOOK]

Probably goes farther back to Moore's Utopia and even farther to Plato's Republic. However warnings were published as well about Dystopia, the natural outcome of the Leftist's endeavors; 1984 by Orwell is one, others by Jack London, Ray Bradbury, Ayn Rand and Anthony Burgess the most current.

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[oblomov]

Most of the sixties radical leaders were “red diaper babies”. They were the children of radicals from the 30s. Contrary to what you say, the left overwhelmingly supported WWII. It was a portion of the right that opposed it.

[knarf]

Interestingly, every other reply falls short of the beginning.

Thanx for the confidence.

[parisa]

If you have watched the movie "Reds" by another communist sympathizing actor, Warren Beaty, it makes your point clearly.

Here's a synopsis:

This movie tells the true story of John Reed, a radical American journalist around the time of World War I. He soon meets Louise Bryant, a respectable married woman, who dumps her husband for Reed and becomes an important feminist and radical in her own right. After involvement with labor and political disputes in the US, they go to Russia in time for the October Revolution in 1917, when the Communists seized power. Inspired, they return to the US, hoping to lead a similar revolution.

[x]

Certainly, a lot of the 1960s was the product of older people, from Dr. Spock to Bishop Pike to David Dellinger to William O. Douglas to Hugh Hefner.

Whether they were actually Communists or not is harder to say. People who went through the Great Depression as adults could be pretty radical or liberal or socialistic, and would have been that way whether or not there had been a Soviet Union or a CPUSA.

[Pajamajan]

"Slouching Towards Gomorrah, Modern Liberalism and American Decline" By Robert Bork

Thanks for the book reference.

[Domestic Church]

ACtually it started in the early 1930s.

[cajungirl]

There was a communist movement in the 30’s with pretty deep roots. ANd at the early part of the century there were “utopian” communities. One was in Louisiana, called New Llano,,look it up. Another in NY, Oneida. The commies have been around a long time.

[SnarlinCubBear]

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