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What's up with Fox News? Somethings amiss. They are going soft!

Posted on 11/02/2008 9:04:12 PM PST by rfmad

Starting about 3 weeks ago it seems Fox has started moving ever so slightly to the left. I don't know if they are afraid of the Fairness Doctrine or what but, other than Hannity, they all seemed resigned to Obama winning. Even Britt Hume's crowd has gone soft. I'm mad as hell about it! Anyone else notice this?


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To: Texas4ever

Stuart Varney is an economic journalist, currently working for the Fox News Channel and the Fox Business Network. Varney joined Fox News in January 2004 as a business contributor on many shows, such as Your World with Neil Cavuto. Varney will also occasionally serve as guest host for Your World and the shows on the Cost of Freedom business block.

Varney graduated from the London School of Economics. In 1980 he joined CNN, and hosted shows like Business Day and Business Asia. From 1999 to 2001, he hosted CNN’s Moneyline with Willow Bay. Varney has also worked for CNBC.

It’s reported that Varney quit CNN after he failed to get great control of Moneyline. Varney, an Episcopalian, was also outraged by CNN founder Ted Turner’s referring to employees who wore ashes on their heads on Ash Wednesday as “Jesus freaks.” When he was hired at Fox News he said, “I’m from that side of the fence that says there is such a thing as a liberal establishment, and it is alive and well in American media outlets.” He also said Fox News “moves everyone back toward the center.” [1]

Varney is also a regular panel member on the FOX business analysis and stock trade investment program “Cashin’ In.”


51 posted on 11/02/2008 9:21:10 PM PST by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: jackinbox

Strangely enough, I actually liked what Dreyfuss had to say on Huckabee. It IS true that we arent teaching our kids the Idea of America.

His style was a bit academic and pedantic, but I was surprised that I actually agreed with the substance of what he was saying.


52 posted on 11/02/2008 9:22:16 PM PST by TEXOKIE
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To: buccaneer81
I would probably recognize his face, just not familiar with his name...I do have Fox on about 24/7....simultaneously while I freep of course
53 posted on 11/02/2008 9:22:40 PM PST by Texas4ever (!WHO IS OBAMA?)
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To: re_tail20

“If McCain wins, they can easily move “right” back to where they were before.”

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Sans a boatload of conservative viewers.

Count on it.


54 posted on 11/02/2008 9:23:02 PM PST by EyeGuy (Obama will deliver America on a Leash to an envious world.)
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To: BookmanTheJanitor

LOL, I pretty much picture Jerry Jones going to the Cowboys after today’s game and saying the same thing.


55 posted on 11/02/2008 9:23:16 PM PST by dfwgator (I hate Illinois Marxists)
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To: Texas4ever
Ask, and you shall receive ;-)


56 posted on 11/02/2008 9:24:45 PM PST by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: rfmad

Ah come on gang this has been going on since the primaries when they would come right out and say the conservative doesnt stand a chance.I knew then they were lost.Screw faux.


57 posted on 11/02/2008 9:25:14 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: rfmad

Yeah........last night Mike Huckabee had Hollywood libs on his show!! The weekend before election day and he uses his 60 minutes with Hollywood elitists a..holes. NONE of whom are voting for McCain. I emailed him and told him it was a WASTE and it was APPALLING. That hour could have been used to drive home how insane and power hungry Obama is. And may have had an impact on a few ‘undecideds’.


58 posted on 11/02/2008 9:25:33 PM PST by Outlaw Woman (Give me Liberty or Give me Death -NO COMPROMISE)
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To: Texas4ever
I dont know who to trust anymore on FOX, except Hannity

Neil Cavuto and...

Megyn Kelly?:


59 posted on 11/02/2008 9:26:17 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: rfmad

I agree! I believe FOX is going soft in case Obama is the next POTUS (I am so praying NOT) they may want an interview or two from him. I quit tuning in because for the last two weeks I get only BO’s face and race news....I turn to CNN and they are running all of McCain Palin live shots. What’s up? FOX had Gomer Huckabee on tonight instead of the McCain NH Live Townhall so I watched CNN. What a disappointment FOX has been lately. Oh well, there’s Conservative Radio and Dr. Bill (Bennett) comes on at 5 AM. Sweet dreams!


60 posted on 11/02/2008 9:26:19 PM PST by janee (janee)
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To: rfmad
Yeah I too noticed. I used to like Fred Barnes but he's so screwed up on this one that I quit watching him and the Beltway Boys show. Oh Ronald, how we miss you!!!! Krauthammer is about the only one with any balls. (not counting Sean Hannity of course). Rush is still my #1 all time guy though.
61 posted on 11/02/2008 9:27:04 PM PST by fish hawk (Atheism is a non-prophet organization)
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To: Marcella
McCain’s campaign wasn’t the best it could be.

That could be the understatement of the year.

62 posted on 11/02/2008 9:27:52 PM PST by Choose Ye This Day ("If someone is coming to kill you, rise early and kill him first" (Sanhedrin 72a and parallels).)
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To: wintertime

I had to turn off Brit tonight


63 posted on 11/02/2008 9:29:45 PM PST by Foolsgold ("We live in the greatest country in the world and I am going to change it" Barry O'boomarang 2008)
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To: DWar

Sadly, you hit it on the nose,


64 posted on 11/02/2008 9:30:03 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: rfmad
What I have noticed is some on this board expect FOX to be a knee-jerk right wing advocacy network.

Any deviation from that expectation is seen as apostasy.

No one ever promised that FOX would be in-the-tank for our side. That is something the Left has claimed, and apparently more than a few people here believe it. That being said, they are still the only network on the air that presents our side at all and investigates our opponents and their claims. Don't look to any other network for any of that.

65 posted on 11/02/2008 9:31:22 PM PST by Yankee
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To: jackinbox
I believe Greta's husband was a Hillary supporter even traveling with the campaign and after her defeat switched his support to McCain. Greta definitely seems eaten up with everything Palin, especially the First Dude, but hey, I'll take positive reporting and interesting interviews any day!
66 posted on 11/02/2008 9:33:40 PM PST by Bubbette
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To: EyeGuy

There are a few left. Megan, Oreilly sometimes, Greta and Hannity.
Remember Sarah the inside Obama letter? She said that Obama met with Fox and threatened them?

Shep is the worst, he seems almost giddy about Obama winning, Brit really is bothersome and of course there is Geraldo. They are quoting polls that are the most outlandish, and almost apologizing when they have to say something against Obama. Every bad thing they say about Obama is followed by “to be fair, McCain kicked a couple of the plane too”.

I can’t take more than 15 minutes without having to double check on the Web.

They weren’t even reporting the bombshell audio tape as news. They left that to Hannity.

Then you have an Huckabee played 6 times in two days. He is so syrupy fawning over Bil Mayer. It is like watching a baptist preacher MC a variety show. Nothing against him he is just too nicey nice for me.

I feel like I am watching a bunch of liberals come out of the closet.


67 posted on 11/02/2008 9:34:26 PM PST by ODDITHER
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To: rfmad

It’s hard for me to say. Every time I see Combes all I can think is “I hate that little weasel” and my mind gets stuck.

Can’t think past it.


68 posted on 11/02/2008 9:34:45 PM PST by Beowulf9
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To: Yankee

Well said.


69 posted on 11/02/2008 9:35:33 PM PST by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: rfmad

Fox is definitely heading left. 1. Where is Ollie North? 2. The new executive producer of FNC has a photo of himself shaking hands with Daniel Ortega. 3. They dropped Mike Reagan as a Fox News Contributor. 4. They dropped Tom McInerney as a Fox News Contributor. 5. They continue to employ Shep, who is clearly a Democrat— come on, he’s gay, doesn’t one follow the other? 6. They keep Wretchin’ Carlson on the morning show, hello lightweight.


70 posted on 11/02/2008 9:36:28 PM PST by RadioCirca1970 (CovertRadioShow.Com: Your Source for American Intelligence)
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To: xkaydet65

There is a way around this for Obama if he becomes President. The Supreme Court can cite ‘international law’ as reason for adopting ‘hate speech’ laws that are common in Canada and Western Europe, thus side-stepping the Constitution. He could extend this to outlets like Fox News, the internet, and satellite radio to outlaw programs that are critical of his administration. His Supreme Court nominees will no doubt be radical leftists that would favor this approach.


71 posted on 11/02/2008 9:37:10 PM PST by death2tyrants
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To: rfmad

Everyone except Sean Hannity, especially Brit Hume and his FOX Allstars. What a bunch of twisted panties. Charles Krauthamer did endorse McCain, however, and Fred Barnes picked McCain to win with 279 Electoral Votes to Obama’s 259.

But, I’ve quit watching them and will not watch them as much, after the election, as I once did. Even Bill O’ has been squishy on B. Hussein since he “graced” his TV show.

They can all kiss my butt on both sides.


72 posted on 11/02/2008 9:37:16 PM PST by no dems ("Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice...." Barry Goldwater)
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To: DWar

6. Who cares, Fox is so 1998


73 posted on 11/02/2008 9:37:23 PM PST by RadioCirca1970 (CovertRadioShow.Com: Your Source for American Intelligence)
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To: County Agent Hank Kimball
ON THE OTHER HAND, has anyone else noticed that Greta Von Sustren seems to have gone from a fairly closeted liberal to some kind of, well maybe not rightwinger, but battler for fair treatment of conservatives?

She is a PUMA.

74 posted on 11/02/2008 9:38:49 PM PST by avant_garde
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To: buccaneer81

yup and Neil Cavuto, David Asman and Liz MacDonald...solid.


75 posted on 11/02/2008 9:39:09 PM PST by RadioCirca1970 (CovertRadioShow.Com: Your Source for American Intelligence)
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To: rfmad

Fox is pussywhipped.

Hire Rush,Levin,Steyn,etc.


76 posted on 11/02/2008 9:39:16 PM PST by Para-Ord.45 (`)
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To: rfmad

My Dad would try and temper my enthusiasm and loyal support of football and baseball teams. I would be heartbroken over losses and he explained that I cared more than the players. They got paid win or lose.

I have vested much of the same “loyalties” to certain commentators on Fox. After the last debate I felt that McCain did really well exposing Obama. My Fox buds disagreed for reasons very confusing to me. Follow the $


77 posted on 11/02/2008 9:39:28 PM PST by Kahuna
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To: ODDITHER

“I feel like I am watching a bunch of liberals come out of the closet.”

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It is a shame, because of what might have been.

I haven’t watched Fox News for over a year, and I see no need to go back, unless (RARELY) I want live video coverage of a breaking story. The insider opinions of Beltway/East Coast elites are of no interest to me.

FR and a handful of other resources are all I need to stay current.

Screw them and their cowardice.


78 posted on 11/02/2008 9:39:55 PM PST by EyeGuy (Obama will deliver America on a Leash to an envious world.)
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To: rfmad

I’ve been around FR for over 10 years and I’m not given to idle posts but something has been in the back of my mind for a while now. All these polls seem weird and way off base. What if these numbers are out there to keep Obama supporters happy (i.e no riots) but in reality McCain/Palin are winning this thing by more than we realize. Could this be what is happening? (I will now remove my tinfoil hat)


79 posted on 11/02/2008 9:40:44 PM PST by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT)
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To: RadioCirca1970

http://www.newsmeat.com/media_political_donations/Peter_Chernin.php

Don’t forget about Peter Chernin, President and COO of News Corporation


80 posted on 11/02/2008 9:42:32 PM PST by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: rfmad

I couldn’t stomach Brit’s show tonight. Thank God for Sean Hannity.


81 posted on 11/02/2008 9:43:01 PM PST by dougherty (I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free. - Michelangelo)
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To: Beowulf9
Every time I see Combes all I can think is “I hate that little weasel” and my mind gets stuck.

I once read or heard someone call Combes "Grasshopper Boy." Since then, I have always thought of him as a grasshopper, because he kind of looks like one.

82 posted on 11/02/2008 9:44:43 PM PST by matt1234
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To: rfmad

I only watch Fox because it’s the only non in-your-face-in-the-tank-for-Obama network. They are indeed shifting Left, probably because they don’t like being called right-wing, even though they never have been right-wing. Obama hates Fox, and apparently most people at Fox think he’ll win because they drank the Kool-Aid that is polling data 2008.


83 posted on 11/02/2008 9:45:08 PM PST by ForbesFan
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To: Dawn531

I noticed too and called family members to see if they were annoyed as well. Britt Hume, Bill Kristol ,Bill (my Obama interview) Reiley etc. I cannot recall entirely but it coincided with Rupert Murdoch making some big company decision - as their ratings are through the roof- Britt is retiring this year but come now- fair balanced and UNAFRAID???


84 posted on 11/02/2008 9:46:35 PM PST by newzhawk
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To: rfmad

I agree and Shepard Smith what the ehck is up with him besides him being in the tank for Obama I think it is the Fairnes Doctrine as well


85 posted on 11/02/2008 9:48:43 PM PST by bzybee
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To: Dawn531

I used to watch Brit every night. Now they cite a poll which has the largest Obama advantage and spend nearly the entire program pretending that it was the acutally election results and Obama won. Then they bring in the all-stars, and I watch Nina Easton interupting anyone who starts saying negative things about Obama. I eventually lost interest in the show.


86 posted on 11/02/2008 9:49:07 PM PST by death2tyrants
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To: rfmad

I don’t think so. In the news sections I think they are just doing what they have always done, showing both sides. I watch it from 6am until 8pm so I see them all. When they do a poll they usually also mention one that is way different. They usually have both sides on and ask hard questions of both and try to get them off their talking points. As to the pundits, after how so many treated Sarah Palin, I ignore them. They are traitors, jealous and back biting idiots!

Now as to O’Reilly, if he says once more ‘Obama’ has been truthful in answering my questions, which implies McCain hasn’t since he has interviewed McCain before though not in this cycle, I’ll throw something at the TV. I thought the questions were more or less soft ball, his hitting him on Iraq surge was no big deal, that has been well known. I ignore Hannity and Colmes in this cycle, they are each on their side and just repeat the same darn things over and over. I like Greta, she’s done a very good job, IMHO


87 posted on 11/02/2008 9:49:21 PM PST by Ruth C (!!!! Get off the back of your lap and VOTE !!!!)
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To: rfmad

I have heard said that CNN seems to be further right than Fox the last several weeks. It is the same thing I have noticed as well. I am trying not to listen to any of them right now. I am getting almost all of my election news right here on the web or tuning into talk radio.


88 posted on 11/02/2008 9:49:42 PM PST by NavyCanDo (Original Reagan Democrat. (Read my FR profile))
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To: rfmad

It’s a business playing for the interviews. Besides, they use Rasmussen and refer to Real Clear Politics. Scott Rasmussen is unethical because he projects winners and losers based on historic polling information. That is far beyond the scope for a pollster, and could negatively impact the eventual outcome.


89 posted on 11/02/2008 9:49:54 PM PST by MN_Mike (ObamACORN, BelaPelosi, and Howie Screed - Trangle of Doom)
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To: Dawn531

Charles Krauthammer’s calling Obama “elegant” after Debate #3 was too much. I thought McCain won and these guys were making excuses for him. Since then, they have been Monday-morning quarterbacking the Obama victory. I never missed Hume’s panel but now I listen to easy listening and forensic shows. I haven’t watched Fox News (to which I was addicted 24/7, I even watched all their reruns) in three weeks.


90 posted on 11/02/2008 9:50:02 PM PST by MHT
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To: jackinbox
Funny, I had the same reaction. Maher I find loathsome and had no desire to listen to. Dreyfus I also dislike a lot, but I was willing to hear what he had to say. I figured if Huckster was having him on his show in-studio, maybe he had something worth hearing.

But he sounded like a stoned guy thinking he was uttering great thoughts when he was really just contemplating his navel. Very strange.

Alas, this served to reinforce my assessment of Huckster. He so desperately wants to be considered hip and to have the mainstream media like him, that in the final analysis he'll never be a reliable conservative.

I'll believe otherwise when he “reaches out” to the Ann Coulters and Mark Levins instead of the Bill Mahers and Richard Dreyfuses.

Hank

91 posted on 11/02/2008 9:50:03 PM PST by County Agent Hank Kimball (OK, I'm all-in. Still don't like McCain much, but they've got me. McCain-Palin '08!)
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To: matt1234

“I once read or heard someone call Combes “Grasshopper Boy.” Since then, I have always thought of him as a grasshopper, because he kind of looks like one.”

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I’m quite fond of “Skeletor”, myself.

It is almost as good as Rush’s highly apropos moniker for the little cowardly prick Harry Reid: “Dingy Harry”.


92 posted on 11/02/2008 9:50:44 PM PST by EyeGuy (Obama will deliver America on a Leash to an envious world.)
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To: rfmad

ya i noticed
they are swinging toward obama


93 posted on 11/02/2008 9:51:10 PM PST by dalebert
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To: DWar

1- It’s a business strategy
2- They believe the polls.
3- Obama has a history of punishing negative media outlets by denying them access.
4- FNC needs access to future Obama administration officials to compete with the other media.
5- If McCain wins they lose nothing doing this.

And Murdock’s son who is running operations is a Lefty.


94 posted on 11/02/2008 9:51:10 PM PST by stubernx98 (cranky, but reasonable)
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To: County Agent Hank Kimball

Fox is always soft on the weekends, they must have former network hacks writing the news and getting their guests.

Expect Fox News to crush Obama tomorrow, with the scoops that other networks ignore.


95 posted on 11/02/2008 9:51:50 PM PST by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: All

I have been disappointed with Fox since earlier this year. They had turned themselves into the “Hillary-butt kissing” network. Back during the primaries they would fawn all over Hillary and be very negative towards McCain. I remember watching primary results and Hannity, Rick Santorium and Pat Cadell would rave about how great PIAPS (Pig in a Pantsuit Hillary) was doing and be very critical of McCain. I wanted to wretch after I saw that.

I remember how Hannity would pummel McCain relentlessly on his show, before McCain actually won the primary.

Now that they have become more pro-McCain I can stand to watch them now but I have a long memory and I have kept some videotapes. I may put them on Youtube after the election.


96 posted on 11/02/2008 9:52:00 PM PST by ClarenceThomasfan (Praise the Lord, we will never have to hear the words "President Hillary Rodham Clinton")
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To: matt1234

Totally!

But he’ll always be a weasel to me:)


97 posted on 11/02/2008 9:52:41 PM PST by Beowulf9
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To: rfmad

It was pretty obvious something had happened....now I just watch Fox Business channel...for some reason they have yet to drink the Obamanary Kool-ade


98 posted on 11/02/2008 9:52:52 PM PST by Niteflyr ("If youÂ’re drawing flak, you know you're over the target".)
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To: rfmad

If Ob gets in they are toast. They need to realize this and as Americans fight to keep him out.


99 posted on 11/02/2008 9:52:59 PM PST by Bellflower (A Brand New Day Is Coming!)
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To: BuckeyeGOP

Her husband was a huge Clinton fundraiser who announced for McCain. They’re PUMA’s.


100 posted on 11/02/2008 9:53:44 PM PST by FredZarguna (Oh No! Not THE Kathleen Parker.)
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