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Top evangelical scholar: Many evangelicals appalled McCain chose Palin (MORON ALert)
Vancouver Sun ^ | 11/4/08 | Duglas Todd

Posted on 11/04/2008 5:56:14 AM PST by pissant

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Top evangelical scholar: Many evangelicals appalled McCain chose Palin

I recently asked John Stackhouse, an influential scholar on faith and politics at evangelical Regent College in Vancouver, what evangelicals are thinking about Sarah Palin. John, an author of many books and frequent contributor to Christianity Today, replied:

"Some evangelicals will support Sarah Palin because they are Republican. Some will identify with her class-wise (against "intellectuals," "snobs," etc.). Some will like her persona. And some will like her because she's prolife," Stackhouse said.

"Some are racists, of course, and that'll be that. But many evangelicals will not support Obama because he is not even moderately pro-life (versus, say, the Clintons) and because he is, indeed, inexperienced versus Senator McCain. Many moderate evangelicals will prefer Obama's politics to McCain's. Some will be turned off by the racism at some GOP events - and upset by Governor Palin's refusal to denounce them. But many, many evangelicals, I expect, are appalled (as I am) that Senator McCain would put the United States and, indeed, the world in the perilous position of having the inexperienced and, it appears, morally and intellectually suspect Governor Palin one heartbeat away from the U.S. presidency. It shows a dreadful lack of judgment--precisely what he is supposed to offer instead of the callow Obama. And for many, that'll be that."

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Heaping pile of dung
1 posted on 11/04/2008 5:56:14 AM PST by pissant
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To: pissant

I second that.


2 posted on 11/04/2008 5:57:28 AM PST by diverteach (http://foolishpleasurestudio.com/eyewool/slap_hillary.html)
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To: pissant

Has someone from the ‘Vancouver Sun’ ever even met an evangelical?


3 posted on 11/04/2008 5:58:10 AM PST by rom (Keep Senator Government from Spreading YOUR Wealth! McCain/Palin '08!)
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To: pissant

who appointed/annointed this fellow?


4 posted on 11/04/2008 5:58:38 AM PST by pointsal
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To: diverteach

Ay ay, sirs!


5 posted on 11/04/2008 5:58:55 AM PST by Beowulf9
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To: pissant

BARF Alert! I am a Christian and the Christian friends I have are ALL voting for McCain & Palin, and they absolutely LOVE Sarah Palin!!!!!

This article is nonsense! Sarah is fully qualified to be President one day (and what an AMAZING one she’ll be, at that!)!


6 posted on 11/04/2008 5:59:04 AM PST by wk4bush2004 (Let the sound of intercession meet Your ears......)
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To: pissant
"And that'll be that." "And that'll be that."

What a prig.

7 posted on 11/04/2008 5:59:14 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who like to be called Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: pissant

I am fired up buddy. I already voted. and if we win. I will excited.

if we lose. We are going to wage a war on the Nicole Wallace’s, Steve Schmidt’s and Peggy Noonan’s of the Republican party and THROW THEM OUT OF THE GOP.

I am pumped.


8 posted on 11/04/2008 5:59:24 AM PST by se_ohio_young_conservative (Sarah for VP !)
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To: pissant

“morally and intellectually suspect Palin”? What?


9 posted on 11/04/2008 5:59:57 AM PST by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: pointsal

Same guy who anointed Al Sharpton a Reverend, I reckon.


10 posted on 11/04/2008 6:00:14 AM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

What a load of crap.

I think the phrase “moderately pro-life” is a pretty easy tip-off.


11 posted on 11/04/2008 6:00:22 AM PST by Natchez Hawk (Smiles, confidence, and heads held high people.)
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To: pissant

Why be appalled? I would think they would welcome a pro life candidate with strong morals that walks the walk.


12 posted on 11/04/2008 6:07:22 AM PST by Netizen (If McCain really put 'Country First' he'd have been working on securing our borders.)
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To: pissant

A pile of dingo’s kidneys.


13 posted on 11/04/2008 6:07:26 AM PST by 50sDad (OBAMA: In your heart you know he's Wright.)
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To: pissant

Why be appalled? I would think they would welcome a pro life candidate with strong morals that walks the walk.


14 posted on 11/04/2008 6:42:43 AM PST by Netizen (If McCain really put 'Country First' he'd have been working on securing our borders.)
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To: pissant

Every Evangelical and Fundamentalist I know loves her.


15 posted on 11/04/2008 6:50:23 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Nihil utile nisi quod honestum - Marcus Tullius Cicero)
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To: pissant
Gen 3:1 Now the serpent was more crafty than any beast
of the field which YHvH had made. And he said to the woman,
"Indeed, has God said,
'You shall not eat from any tree of the garden'?"
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai

16 posted on 11/04/2008 6:50:41 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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To: pissant

So, what he said is, if Palin is against Obama, it’s racism. I don’t know where these idiots come from, and even more amazing is the press gives them a platform with articles like this. It’s like the press world wide has lost their minds and developed mental retardation


17 posted on 11/04/2008 6:53:50 AM PST by realcleanguy
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To: pissant

This just proves this guy knows absolutely zippo about evangelicals. Complete nonsense.


18 posted on 11/04/2008 6:55:19 AM PST by conservativegramma
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To: pissant

The term “evangelical” doesn’t mean what it used to. John Stackhouse does NOT qualify as a “mainstream evangelical,” much less as a “conservative evangelical.”

And on top of that, YES, he is a moron. A self-righteous, arrogant, “smarter-than-thou” moron.

Okay, I’m done now.


19 posted on 11/04/2008 6:59:50 AM PST by patriot preacher (To be a good American Citizen and a Christian IS NOT a contradiction. (www.mygration.blogspot.com))
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To: conservativegramma

Maybe his source group is the “evangelicals” in the Emergent Church movement or in Rick Warren’s liberal church. In other words, not real Christians.


20 posted on 11/04/2008 7:01:38 AM PST by sthguard (The problem isn't Islamic terrorists; it's terroristic Islam!)
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To: pissant
Gen 3:1 Now the serpent was more crafty than any beast
of the field which YHvH had made. And he said to the woman,
"Indeed, has God said,
'You shall not eat from any tree of the garden'?"
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai

21 posted on 11/04/2008 7:01:59 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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To: pissant
Had to go to a liberal college in Vancouver to get this read did you, Duglas?

Well, let me call it what it is...

A fresh, steaming pile of Bravo Sierra.

MEET THE PEOPLE WHO WILL DEFEAT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

22 posted on 11/04/2008 7:03:14 AM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: pissant

What was his choice, Lieberman? Please.

Instead of winning today, McCain would be 20 points down.

Does he have a reason for Palin’s 20k plus crowds or is that racism, too?


23 posted on 11/04/2008 7:05:13 AM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: pissant

The prince of the air is busy. Saul was much more qualified to be king in the eyes of men than David was too.


24 posted on 11/04/2008 7:06:34 AM PST by throwback
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To: pissant

LOL

Been following evangelicalism for 35 years, never heard of this stooge.


25 posted on 11/04/2008 7:07:27 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: rom

> Has someone from the ‘Vancouver Sun’ ever even met an evangelical?

Coming from Vancouver originally and being subjected to that leftist, zero-IQ crap for the last X # of years? NO.
-Now you know why I left that stupid city/country called kanadastan.


26 posted on 11/04/2008 7:11:26 AM PST by max americana
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To: wk4bush2004
Why we love her and they hate her:

2 Cor 2:14-17
Scent of Christ

27 posted on 11/04/2008 7:12:08 AM PST by MrB (0bama supporters: What's the attraction? The Marxism or the Infanticide?)
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To: pissant

This guy is no “scholar.”. He is an academic who is clearly not operating on all cylinders.


28 posted on 11/04/2008 7:13:50 AM PST by SumProVita ("Cogito ergo sum pro vita." .....updated Descartes)
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To: pissant

This is a huge pile of bovine excrement! All the evangelicals I know weren’t even planning on voting for McCain UNTIL Governor Palin was selected. Then they were on FIRE!

This is just an effort to further minimize her in the event McCain does not win. They are very fearful of a Sarah Palin with more experience, and a built-in base, running for President in 2012.

It is desperate.


29 posted on 11/04/2008 7:14:36 AM PST by Shelayne (Pray without ceasing. Pray the Lord's Hand in our election process.)
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To: pissant

What “evangelicals” is this guy talking to? The Unitarian Universalist Church?


30 posted on 11/04/2008 7:15:42 AM PST by 3catsanadog (Drill here, drill now!!!!!)
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To: pissant

I’m quite sure this guy is equally qualified to write an article about how blacks have yet to discover that BHO might not be white. Where do you find these irrelevant fools?


31 posted on 11/04/2008 7:17:11 AM PST by Steamburg (Your wallet speaks the only language most politicians understand.)
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To: BibChr

First RINOs, now EINOs.


32 posted on 11/04/2008 7:17:14 AM PST by Brookhaven (.)
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To: pissant
But many, many evangelicals, I expect, are appalled (as I am) that Senator McCain would put the United States and, indeed, the world in the perilous position of having the inexperienced and, it appears, morally and intellectually suspect Governor Palin one heartbeat away from the U.S. presidency. It shows a dreadful lack of judgment--precisely what he is supposed to offer instead of the callow Obama. And for many, that'll be that.

The "experience" issue was McCain's strongest weapon. He disarmed himself with this selection.

33 posted on 11/04/2008 7:22:34 AM PST by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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To: pissant

I am a principal at a Chrisitan school (K-8) in a Twin Cities suburb. Our students voted yesterday and McCain recieved over seven times the votes as Obama.


34 posted on 11/04/2008 7:26:24 AM PST by rightsmart
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To: pissant
Senator McCain would put the United States and, indeed, the world in the perilous position of having the inexperienced and, it appears, morally and intellectually suspect Governor Palin one heartbeat away from the U.S. presidency

Sarah Palin will be getting more experienced. Joe Biden won't be getting any less senile.

35 posted on 11/04/2008 7:27:33 AM PST by Oztrich Boy ("Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand." - Homer)
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To: pissant
"Many"

Translation" Me and the voices I hear in my head.

36 posted on 11/04/2008 7:30:05 AM PST by don-o (My son, Ben - Recruit training at Parris Island from October 20)
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To: BibChr

Read his wiki page. This guy is not an “Evangelical”, he is a liberal writer that covers religion for a Canadian paper.


37 posted on 11/04/2008 7:32:14 AM PST by icwhatudo (PALIN VID=========>>>>>http://www.overstream.net/view.php?oid=n1ronxelmtin<++++++++)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

I think it is a mistake to do that. Peggy Noonan, I don’t understand what’s up with her, it’s one thing to think Palin isn’t qualified it’s another thing to vote for a Marxist, I don’t care how smooth of a talker someone is. You’re plan, to wage war could backfire. You might get what you wish for. The conservative-moderates could end up starting a major third party movement that is pro-life. This third party movement could end up attracting moderate-conservative Democrats. And since when do people try to destroy those who don’t support their candidate? That’s why we have primaries. You sound like you are part of the racist wing of the party. For your information, just like the Democrats have their extremists, so does the Republican Party. You got to consider that. I really don’t respect a women who says one thing and does another. How can Palin, claiming to be a conservative christian, be working 20 hour days 7 days a week when she has a baby, and one with special needs no less? I am practiacally moved to tears when I think about it being that I have a baby myself and very aware of how much babies need their mothers. That is a major red flag and it’s just one tiny little example. Add to that she is not articulate and she appears to have double standards when it comes to many different things. And for a women to not be articulate is inexcusable, especially one who has been to college. A man, I can give a man that, but not a woman. If there is one thing a women should be able to effectively, it is to talk coherently and with understanding. Do you really want to go to the place where women use their looks to get elected to office? You wanna go there? There are plenty of beautiful women who are working in Hollywood who are very liberal who might take you up on the suggestion. Two can play that game and if that’s what you want our political system to degenerate into, then by all means, be my guest. It seems to be a pattern that when a country slides into socialism pretty women will use their looks as a tool to manipulate the populace. Did it ever occur to you that maybe some infiltrators within the Republican Party who have encouraged the promotion of Palin. Communtists have been known to play those kinds of games. They are dirty. If it’s true, I am not saying it is, Palin is not aware of it, she is just an opportunist taking advantage of a situation.


38 posted on 11/04/2008 7:36:15 AM PST by rodeo-mamma
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To: Shelayne
This is a huge pile of bovine excrement! All the evangelicals I know weren’t even planning on voting for McCain UNTIL Governor Palin was selected. Then they were on FIRE!

Ditto what you said

Of all the videos and emails that we tried to get to go viral this year; the one that really did was the Sarah Palin /Ester story.

I received that from at least 5 different sources, and even people who were minimally connected to the web heard about it.

It spread like wildfire, and all completely without the MSM, and under their radar. We loved her before, but that story solidified Christian support.

39 posted on 11/04/2008 7:37:21 AM PST by Red Boots
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To: pissant

They are just hoping the Evangelical base isn’t coming out in full force-IT IS.


40 posted on 11/04/2008 7:37:59 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (AMERICANS-PREPARE FOR GLORY!)
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To: pissant; All
Although he was raised in a family of staunch atheists, Douglas Todd has gone on to become one of the most decorated spirituality and ethics writers in North America.

Decorated... decorated... ?!?!?!

I'd call the use of that word with regard to "ethics and spirituality" a clear indication that everything following it is pure BS... /grin

41 posted on 11/04/2008 7:40:42 AM PST by tarheelswamprat
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To: pissant
But many, many evangelicals, I expect, are appalled (as I am)

Yes I am appalled: At how stupid "intellectual" evangelicals can be when they mouth inanities like this.

42 posted on 11/04/2008 7:40:54 AM PST by Lent
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To: pissant

What a pile of cold instant grits! All the Christians I know (across denominational lines) are thrilled with Governor Sarah Palin and feel they can relate to her. This “top evangelical scholar” is about as Evangelical as Pelosi is Catholic.


43 posted on 11/04/2008 7:42:26 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (“Do you know the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull? Lipstick.” - V.P. Sarah Palin)
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To: pissant
Stackhouse is no evangelical. He's an educated fool.
44 posted on 11/04/2008 7:46:13 AM PST by Walmartian (Doesnt sound very Hopenchangey to me.)
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To: pissant; DarthVader

I’ve pondered this off and on since you posted it.

I think I’m more convinced than ever . . .

1. Folks—Christians—who vote for Obama . . . are likely willfully blind and at least not focused sufficiently on God and HIS priorities, Nature, Will, Values, LIFE FOCUS. Therefore, they are in danger of forfeiting their Salvation, if they ever were saved.

2. Christians who construe Sarah Palin to be anything less than the Queen Esther God has raised up for such a time as this are likewise not remotely in tune with God and either already securely in satan’s camp or on a very steep slippery slide ending up there.

What a clueless article. I don’t care how many awards the character won etc. . . . he’s clueless on a very crucial issue in a very crucial time. It’s obvious Palin is the REAL DEAL—GENUINE, GOD CENTERED, PRIORITIES STRAIGHT; COMMON SENSE; BRIGHT; RIGHTEOUSLY TOUGH.

Besides that, close friends in Wasilla Alaska affirm that she’s the real deal.

I’m beginning to think that a lot more “Christians” running around loose are like 2000 years ago . . . white-washed tombs, sons of the devil, evil doers in Christian costumes.

Sheesh.


45 posted on 11/04/2008 7:46:28 AM PST by Quix (GLOBALIST PLANS FM 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: pissant

Palin is what brought the evangelicals on board.

Its amazing how dim a guy can be and still be considered an “expert”. Its like evangelicals are some kind of obscure tribe, and this guy is an anthropologist doing field studies.


46 posted on 11/04/2008 7:47:58 AM PST by marron
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To: pissant
This guy is no Evangelical... he is a satan worshiper. Palin is the most PRO LIFE candidate in the HISTORY of the US and anyone saying different cannot be of GOD.

LLS

47 posted on 11/04/2008 7:50:19 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (GOD, Country, Family... except when it comes to dims!)
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To: rodeo-mamma
How can Palin, claiming to be a conservative christian, be working 20 hour days 7 days a week when she has a baby, and one with special needs no less?

I doubt she's working anywhere near that much, but as VP she would have to be prepared for a heavy schedule including a great deal of travelling. And the baby-as-baggage-to-be-dragged-along is bad enough, but she also clearly hasn't been spending enough time providing guidance and supervision to her 17 year old daughter, and she's got a 14 year old who's getting the same skimpy parenting (and is likely to get pretty much the same results).

She looks to me like an example of the worst sort of radical feminism, in which the pesky matter of children isn't allowed to interfere with a woman's climb up the career ladder. Needless to say, if she was a left-winger who'd been picked as Obama's running mate, and had the identical family situation, conservatives would be howling at her irresponsible approach to motherhood.

48 posted on 11/04/2008 7:51:52 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: sthguard

Just for the record, Rick Warren endorsed McCain, specifically on the issue of life.


49 posted on 11/04/2008 7:52:16 AM PST by marron
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To: rightsmart

even they get it!


50 posted on 11/04/2008 7:59:03 AM PST by Godsgirl
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