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Top evangelical scholar: Many evangelicals appalled McCain chose Palin (MORON ALert)
Vancouver Sun ^ | 11/4/08 | Duglas Todd

Posted on 11/04/2008 5:56:14 AM PST by pissant

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Top evangelical scholar: Many evangelicals appalled McCain chose Palin

I recently asked John Stackhouse, an influential scholar on faith and politics at evangelical Regent College in Vancouver, what evangelicals are thinking about Sarah Palin. John, an author of many books and frequent contributor to Christianity Today, replied:

"Some evangelicals will support Sarah Palin because they are Republican. Some will identify with her class-wise (against "intellectuals," "snobs," etc.). Some will like her persona. And some will like her because she's prolife," Stackhouse said.

"Some are racists, of course, and that'll be that. But many evangelicals will not support Obama because he is not even moderately pro-life (versus, say, the Clintons) and because he is, indeed, inexperienced versus Senator McCain. Many moderate evangelicals will prefer Obama's politics to McCain's. Some will be turned off by the racism at some GOP events - and upset by Governor Palin's refusal to denounce them. But many, many evangelicals, I expect, are appalled (as I am) that Senator McCain would put the United States and, indeed, the world in the perilous position of having the inexperienced and, it appears, morally and intellectually suspect Governor Palin one heartbeat away from the U.S. presidency. It shows a dreadful lack of judgment--precisely what he is supposed to offer instead of the callow Obama. And for many, that'll be that."

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To: pissant
Who?
Never heard of him!
51 posted on 11/04/2008 7:59:43 AM PST by Zathras
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To: pissant

Never heard of him.


52 posted on 11/04/2008 8:03:08 AM PST by TexanToTheCore
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To: pissant

“appalled that Mccain chose palin”

And Biden? The shmoozer. come on, pa-leeeze. I’ll take palin over biden anyday of the week!


53 posted on 11/04/2008 8:04:46 AM PST by Godsgirl
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To: pissant

Why be appalled? I would think they would welcome a pro life candidate with strong morals that walks the walk.


54 posted on 11/04/2008 8:09:00 AM PST by Netizen (If McCain really put 'Country First' he'd have been working on securing our borders.)
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To: pissant

Why be appalled? I would think they would welcome a pro life candidate with strong morals that walks the walk.


55 posted on 11/04/2008 8:12:48 AM PST by Netizen (If McCain really put 'Country First' he'd have been working on securing our borders.)
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To: rodeo-mamma

You are one of the ones the Republican party needs to sh*t out and flush down the toilet.

bye bye


56 posted on 11/04/2008 8:15:56 AM PST by se_ohio_young_conservative (Sarah for VP !)
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To: pissant

Why be appalled? I would think they would welcome a pro life candidate with strong morals that walks the walk.


57 posted on 11/04/2008 8:44:32 AM PST by Netizen (If McCain really put 'Country First' he'd have been working on securing our borders.)
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To: pissant

Why be appalled? I would think they would welcome a pro life candidate with strong morals that walks the walk.


58 posted on 11/04/2008 8:47:21 AM PST by Netizen (If McCain really put 'Country First' he'd have been working on securing our borders.)
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To: marron

Was this recent? Last I heard he was gushing over Obama.


59 posted on 11/04/2008 9:21:05 AM PST by sthguard (The problem isn't Islamic terrorists; it's terroristic Islam!)
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To: steve-b

Eat Shiite and Die you worthless troll. You have been stinking up the boards for months. You would be right popular on DU.


60 posted on 11/04/2008 9:23:32 AM PST by ohioman
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To: ohioman
LOL -- reminds me of the batches of "fan mail" Neal occasionally posts in the Nuze.
61 posted on 11/04/2008 9:30:08 AM PST by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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To: steve-b
The "experience" issue was McCain's strongest weapon. He disarmed himself with this selection.

and the "change" issue was Obama's... if the media were fair in their treatment of both candidates, they would have realized that Obama "dismarmed himself" of his strongest weapon when he chose Biden...

62 posted on 11/04/2008 9:34:22 AM PST by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

She does have a supportive husband, and those kids do have a full-time father, you know. Any harsh words of criticism for his parenting or his choices?


63 posted on 11/04/2008 9:51:22 AM PST by Cecily
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To: Cecily

How can he be a “full-time father” when he’s away on business for days at a stretch? When Sarah found out the baby she was carrying had DS, she didn’t tell her husband for several days, because he was away in the oil fields. Todd Palin is no more a full-time father than Hillary Clinton was a full-time mother when Chelsea was growing up.


64 posted on 11/04/2008 10:07:21 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: ohioman; steve-b

Actually, steve-b has been registered on FR longer than you have. Seems to be quite a bit more articulate too . . .


65 posted on 11/04/2008 10:09:46 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: pissant
Dr. Stackhouse doesn't seem to have a firm grasp of the facts.

Read more here.

66 posted on 11/04/2008 10:16:36 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: pissant

Stackhouse? I think another kind of house describes his “thinking.” Palin is “morally (?) and intellectually” suspect? What a tool.


67 posted on 11/04/2008 10:40:24 AM PST by driftless2
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To: sthguard

I take it back, I was mistaken.

I was remembering that he came out in favor of Proposition 8, which is the ammendment to ban gay marriage, and I conflated that mentally with an endorsement of McCain. But, no.

“I never support a candidate but on moral issues I come out very clear.”


68 posted on 11/04/2008 10:47:03 AM PST by marron
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Being articulate has nothing to do with it. Steve is nothing but the enemy within on FR. He has consistently bad-mouthed Palin from day one and cannot even resist the urge to slam her on election day. He deserves no respect. BTW - I have been here since the late 90s and length of time on FR doesn’t mean a thing. Steve is arrogant and is dead wrong.


69 posted on 11/04/2008 10:49:20 AM PST by ohioman
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To: pissant
Although he was raised in a family of staunch atheists, Douglas Todd has gone on to become one of the most decorated spirituality and ethics writers in North America. He has received more than 60 journalistic and educational honours.

Apparently the Vancouver Sun believes that "journalistic and educational honors" are the arbiters of evangelical credibility. What a freaking CROCK!

70 posted on 11/04/2008 10:59:59 AM PST by MortMan (Those who stand for nothing fall for anything. - Alexander Hamilton)
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To: pissant
"But many, many evangelicals, I expect, are appalled (as I am) that Senator McCain would put the United States and, indeed, the world in the perilous position of having the inexperienced and, it appears, morally and intellectually suspect Governor Palin one heartbeat away from the U.S. presidency. It shows a dreadful lack of judgment--precisely what he is supposed to offer instead of the callow Obama. And for many, that'll be that."

Me thinks Mr. Stackhouse is not much of an "evangelical", and therefore has little knowledgeable basis for his position;

from: http://crossonmyback.wordpress.com/2007/06/12/is-inclusivism-compassionate/

"John G. Stackhouse Jr. is a professor of theology and culture at Regent College in Vancouver, B.C., Canada. He writes in a recent Christian Vision Project essay that, “it is obvious that one does not have to know about Jesus to adopt this posture that results in salvation.” Doug Wilson’s response to John Stackhouse’s inclusivist essay is excellent. In it, he makes the strong point that:

Ironically, this is why the inclusivist position requires us to start minimizing (in our own imaginations) how screwed up the world actually is. If we believe that millions of Hindus, Muslims, and Buddhists are groping their way to God in the dark, then we have to look out at the world as though it were jammed full of good intentions. And the problem is that it isn’t.

So we don’t proclaim Jesus because we are fixing the problem of “not having heard about Jesus.” We proclaim Jesus because we are addressing the problem of death, genocide, hatred, murder, rape, slave prostitution, senseless war, snarling greed, and as they say on television, much, much more. The problem with the inclusivist position is not that it is eager for the people to be included — every Christian wants that. The problem is that when we define the standard downward like this, at the end of the day we find that we have included much more than the people — we have opened the door to great wickedness as well. This may sound outlandish, but there it is. Tender-hearted accommodation leads to great hardness of heart. And a hardline conservatism at this point, ironically, is tender-hearted.

So when I feel like being compassionate, do I point people to Jesus, or do I pander around their sin? What do you do? What do you believe? Let’s expose the heretic inclusivist within and kill him by the Spirit of Jesus.

PS - Stackhouse’s essay is just another reminder that not every writer (especially on the internet) who has cool graphics, an ultra-hip swagger, and a penchant for nifty God-monikers is telling the truth. Deceivers can take all kinds of forms. Emergent readers beware. http://crossonmyback.wordpress.com/2007/06/12/is-inclusivism-compassionate/

71 posted on 11/04/2008 11:16:22 AM PST by Wuli
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To: GovernmentShrinker

“Needless to say, if she was a left-winger who’d been picked as Obama’s running mate, and had the identical family situation, conservatives would be howling at her irresponsible approach to motherhood.”

When people start doing the double standard thing you know something else is going on. And they need to be called on it. It’s why I prefer Savage or Limbaugh. Palin isn’t like King David, we don’t need her. There are others out there who don’t need to neglect an infant to get the job done. If we did need her that badly something tells me she would be a little more well-spoken and a little less like a cheerleader, and all cheerleaders do is get the home team going, for everyone else, it falls flat.


72 posted on 11/04/2008 12:02:18 PM PST by rodeo-mamma
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