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[RaginApache]

Thank you, sionnsar. I’m new but hardly a troll. Have already worked with RonDog, Freeper CIC. He knows me now. We’re for real. Such whiney cynics here...you’d think that it was a BO forum.

[Infidel Puppy]

People like you are the reasons we’re getting our behinds handed to us

F'in aye right. If this election is stolen by the Kenyan, the real fight begins. And it is *not* going to be a war of words.

[RaginApache]

You are personally attacking me, and I am FreedomMarch.org

You could check me out before attempting to discredit me, and I’ve been fighting that negative attitude far too long to be patient with it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nx5N2n24x2k

We’ve done a great deal already.

[RaginApache]

Find a better image to use to illustrate the concept, and I’m happy to post it. You’re the only complainer about that image we’ve had.

[FTL]

Promise Keepers - Stand in The Gap - 1997

Here is what a million Patriots look like assembled. Note the heavy spill over onto the sides as well. I was out in the left quadrant area of the 4th Jumboton from the stage.

This doesn't even show the whole mall, just a partial shot.

Imagine what we could do with 2 or three mill.

[RaginApache]

Excellent! That’s the spirit. Thanks for the encouragement.

I didn’t even remember that event.

It’ll be done shortly.

[RaginApache]

FTL - Done!

[WKUHilltopper]

“Actually, I bet there is a way to rig that scenario under the banner of “historical reenactment” or something.”

Something like in the War of 1812, maybe?

[Choose Ye This Day]

FreedomMarch is not a single demonstration; It’s a Movement

I love a good Movement.

[dirtboy]

You could check me out before attempting to discredit me

Discredit you? I went to your website. The link to Youtube for the November 1 rally did not work. Your image of a rally was not one of yours. So I asked for bona fides. And you launched into personal attacks against a long-standing freeper. I would say you need to back off the attacks and just simply put up a few verifiable bona fides, such as links to coverage for the November 1 rally. You have to realize, FR has had plenty of sham artists and overly-aggressive self-promoters, so we tend to be cautious around brassy newcomers.

[Choose Ye This Day]

Oh Lord it’s hard to be humble
when you’re perfect in every way.
I can’t wait to look in the mirror
cause I get better loking each day.
To know me is to love me
I must be a hell of a man.
Oh Lord it’s hard to be humble
but I’m doing the best that I can.

I used to have a girlfriend
but she just couldn’t compete
with all of these love starved women
who keep clamoring at my feet.
Well I prob’ly could find me another
but I guess they’re all in awe of me.
Who cares, I never get lonesome
cause I treasure my own company.

Oh Lord it’s hard to be humble
when you’re perfect in every way,
I can’t wait to look in the mirror
cause I get better looking each day
To know me is to love me
I must be a hell of a man.
Oh Lord it’s hard to be humble
but I’m doing the best that I can.

I guess you could say I’m a loner,
a cowboy outlaw tough and proud.
I could have lots of friends if I want to
but then I wouldn’t stand out from the crowd.
Some folks say that I’m egotistical.
Hell, I don’t even know what that means.
I guess it has something to do with the way that I
fill out my skin tight blue jeans.

Oh Lord it’s hard to be humble
when you’re perfect in every way,
I can’t wait to look in the mirror
cause I get better looking each day
To know me is to love me
I must be a hell of a man.
Oh Lord it’s hard to be humble
but I’m doing the best that I can.
We’re doing the best that we can

[dirtboy]

The YouTube link goes to the LA Times protest. Where is coverage of the November 1 rally you were promoting?

[dirtboy]

Man, a whole lotta people are going off the deep end because of a basic request for bona fides.

[Choose Ye This Day]

That’s SOP for this guy. His heart may be in the right place, but he has a lot to learn about how to win friends and influence people.

And he wonders why people don’t flock to his “Movement” in droves.

[Choose Ye This Day]

There is one sentence on the website:

The FreedomMarch concept was well-received, but it was deemed infeasible due to inefficiencies within the campaign bureaucracy and consequent time constraints.

[dirtboy]

Find a better image to use to illustrate the concept, and I’m happy to post it. You’re the only complainer about that image we’ve had.

First of all, it ain't my job to compose your website. Second, DU sure had fun with the fact that you had a MMM photo on your website, and used that to make fun of FR. And third, I noticed you changed the photo and made clear that it was from Promise Keepers. So as you attack me, you apply my critiques.

Finally, I was able to get the November 1 rally Youtube video working. However, it doesn't show anything that clearly shows a rally in DC on November 1. How many people showed up for the November 1 rally? Do you have any photos from that rally and any links to coverage of the rally?

[dirtboy]

But he still has a video up about a November 1 rally. Rather misleading.

[FTL]

I can understand the FR oldtimers and them being the gatekeepers, cautious and brassy. But usually once they accept someone there is no problem. They used to have problems with trolls here, now only the occasional target of fun. I think RaginApache means well and I see no sign that he’s not on our side checking out his site. He is trying to get a movement up and running it looks like.

Just look at that partial photo of 1,000,000 Conservatives all getting along in one big 2nd Amendment Lovin’
Conservative Love Fest and imagine if we amplify that kind of activism. We have not done it in 11 years, bout time to do it again.

I don’t want to discourage any of the folks on our side in activism, coming up with ideas and helping our cause. One thing for sure, there is some awesome assembled brainpower and potential for political activism via this site. I am learning stuff from fellow Conservatives all the time here, killer quotes, philosophy and the like.

Conservatives have traditionally not been as good or as interested in political activism though that’s changed over the last decade or so. Many of us have become energized and even radicalized - in the good sense of the word. I’m a proud radical conservative and need some form of core base energy to counter what the other side produces, or they’ll steamroll over us if we were ever to stay meek, milquetoast and mild. The Left does NOT own political activism anymore which isn’t news to anyone here of course which, is great!

Every time I see Conservatives exercise their rights, I feel pride. And, yes, I tolerate the right of the opposition to exercise there rights - except when they start tearing crap up, threatening and rioting like they do nine times out of ten. Then I’m for mowing ‘em down - starting with riot agent cannons and escalating it from there as needed.

[dirtboy]

RaginApache gets an A for effort and enthusiasm. However, one has to be careful not to give ammo to the other side, and his link to the MMM photo was used by the Dummies to poke fun at FR. He should drop the video to the November 1 rally since it was cancelled. Also, there is much more to having a rally than announcing it. RA needs to line up some logistics for a rally and THEN announce it. And I question the timing of calling for a rally before we even know the election results.

I've spoken my peace. I will see what transpires from here. Take care.

[FTL]

Agree with your points and you are right about the logistics. He’s trying to adjust fire and get things right and open to any suggestions. Everyone running a little raw right now.

It takes a well oiled machine to run something supersized like that. But that doesn’t mean it couldn’t be done again if it was something we all set out to do. Our side has proven we can do it, though the core strength of that particular movement was via Evangelicals but they are part and parcel. I gave him some suggestions to maybe get a hold of the original organizers who ran that effort. It was very well run and well organized. The best in history of the US probably.

We may need some big rallies based on a central theme such as 2nd Amendment etc. here in the up coming years. We’ll know for sure by tonight.