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2012 - Top Contenders

Posted on 11/04/2008 8:09:33 PM PST by frankiep

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To: dfwgator
"Screw Newt with his global warming nonsense."

Ever since Newt's balls were snipped by the Clintonistas, he's become a political eunuch and sell out artist.

Speaking of selling out, Karl Rove's post-election result speech was sickening.

61 posted on 11/04/2008 9:00:54 PM PST by AC-130 Gunship (0bama voters: Damning us all to hell in the name of "diversity.")
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To: TerrisFriend

Unfortunately I think the majority wanted the bail-out. A few more weeks of bad economic news without it’s passing (I know it’s still bad) would have had the wishy-washy crying for it.


62 posted on 11/04/2008 9:02:09 PM PST by Round 9
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To: mockingbyrd
"Huckabee’s the a$$clown that wouldn’t pull out just to spite Romney. Because of him, we were stuck with McCain."

Exactly.

Huckabee is an a-one @ss-clown who forced the GOP to run a ball-less McCain. We may as well run Dole again.

D@mn the GOP.

63 posted on 11/04/2008 9:02:55 PM PST by AC-130 Gunship (0bama voters: Damning us all to hell in the name of "diversity.")
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I think its Jindal. We need to present candidates that have proven they know how to govern and lead. That is the failure of the Bush 2nd term above all.


64 posted on 11/04/2008 9:03:41 PM PST by goodolemr
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To: frankiep
You're assuming, of course, that there will be another election, and if so, will it be by the private balloting process?

Anything is possible with the New Marxist Movement, certified by the American voter fraud team of thugs.

65 posted on 11/04/2008 9:04:36 PM PST by SlightOfTongue
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To: sheik yerbouty

It’s time that *we* read “Rules for Radicals” and started applying the principles.


66 posted on 11/04/2008 9:05:09 PM PST by Marie (May Pennsylvania get exactly what it was promised... a bankrupt coal industry.)
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To: dfwgator

Newt isn’t really into global warming nonsense, but he is into green. There’s nothing wrong with clean while there is something wrong with cap and trade, which he is against.


67 posted on 11/04/2008 9:05:37 PM PST by dajeeps
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To: redangus
I think Sarah is damaged goods

I think you may be damaged goods with that remark.

LOL

68 posted on 11/04/2008 9:08:20 PM PST by SlightOfTongue
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To: AC-130 Gunship
How true. Now you're getting it.

Welcome NWO. Keep your powder dry.

Charleton Heston is still my president post mortem - "...from my cold dead hands.'

69 posted on 11/04/2008 9:13:01 PM PST by SlightOfTongue
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To: frankiep
I think we should wait and see how Palin governs. I really like a lot of things about her, and think this experience will help her. As for the RNC, the platform needs some work. The big tent nonsense has to go as we have lost coherency.
70 posted on 11/04/2008 9:17:09 PM PST by thenewsblogger
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To: SlightOfTongue
Hear ya...

The NWO has done it, haven't they?

"Damn them all to hell!":


71 posted on 11/04/2008 9:21:38 PM PST by AC-130 Gunship (0bama voters: Damning us all to hell in the name of "diversity.")
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To: frankiep
I like Bobby Jindal. In fact, I've voted for him twice for governor, and if I'd lived in his district, I'd have voted for him twice for Congress. Bobby Jindal is an intelligent, honest man. However, I'm not sure that the Republicans have ever elected a president who didn't have at least some amount of experience in "real life" outside government (unless that candidate led U.S. forces in an entire theater of a world war). George W. Bush was a fighter pilot and was in the oil and later baseball business before becoming governor. George H.W. Bush was a fighter pilot and in the oil business before running for Congress and then later going into government service (ambassador, CIA). Ronald Reagan was an actor for many years and head of the actor's union before becoming involved in politics. Gerald Ford was never elected as president. Richard Nixon was in the Navy in WWII, had unsuccessfully run a company for a few years, and worked as a lawyer in private practice. Dwight Eisenhower never really had a non-government career, but conquering Europe from the Axis powers is an exception. I think Hebert Hoover worked as an engineer for a while before going into politics.

I don't remember other examples, but Republican presidents simply aren't elected without serious experience outside government. John McCain served his country honorably, but he didn't really have that experience. The same is true of Bob Dole. Democrats will elect someone like Bill Clinton or Barak Obama - someone who has never really lived as a regular citizen. Republican candidates of this kind don't win.

From everything I've heard, Bobby Jindal is a great guy. In many ways, he's just a regular guy. Folks who've met him only through politics like him, but folks who have barely crossed paths with the family through school and similar things say the same thing. I'm not doubting that he's a great guy.

Unfortunately, he's never really had a private sector job. He has great academic credentials. He moved from school to a couple of responsible jobs in government bureaucracies, and he did wonderfully. He lost a governor's race and went to Congress. He then came back and won the governor's race. If he serves two terms, he'll be finished in 2015, but he'll still be a middle-aged man without any real experience outside government.

If Bobby Jindal runs, I'll likely support him. However, I question whether he has the right resume to win the presidency as a Republican.

Bill

72 posted on 11/04/2008 9:28:19 PM PST by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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To: WFTR

Interesting take. I hadn’t looked at him that way before.

So who out there has that right balance then? I’m not convinced on Palin right now though. She has a lot of work to do.


73 posted on 11/04/2008 9:32:42 PM PST by frankiep (Every socialist is a disguised dictator - Ludwig von Mises)
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To: wbill
One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes a revolution in order to establish a dictatorship.

George Orwell

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgxMsuH1JnQ

74 posted on 11/04/2008 9:34:45 PM PST by CT (Joe Biden: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTwnwbG9YLE)
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To: SecAmndmt

The same forces continue to manufacture the coming supermajority of secular humanist totalitarian socialists:

- the pagan academies AKA socialist government schools
- the liberal media
- Hollywood, and
- our feckless, milquetoast, seeker sensitive “christian” churches

If we want to change America, we need to return to the foundations. We need our pulpits to be manned by righteous truthtellers, not moral relativists.

We need to repent of some serious national sins (eg. 50M abortions), and we need to stop compromising and choosing unGodly leaders.

Great post! Nothing to add.

75 posted on 11/04/2008 9:37:44 PM PST by Theophilus (Abortion: #1 National Security Issue, #1 Economic Issue, #1 Moral Issue)
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To: frankiep
While I question whether Bobby Jindal has the right resume to win as a Republican, he'll be highly touted in 2012, and I'll be glad to support him if he wins the nomination. Beyond Governor Jindal, I'd look at a few other people.

If Mitt Romney spends four years trying to hold the Republican Party together and get Republicans elected at all levels, he'll gain credibility with more people. During those four years, he'll need to get a better understanding of a few things, and he'll need to avoid stupid statements and positions that hurt him this year. He'll have to show that he's really a conservative and not just a guy who is saying things to win a nomination. I'm still proud of having voted for him. If he had won the nomination, I think we'd have had a much better chance of winning today. He will still have to face the anti-Mormon bigotry of many in the party, but he could be seen as the candidate that should be given a chance.

Another candidate who may be considered next time will be Tim Pawlenty. He's not an ideal candidate, but he's done a reasonably good job as governor of Minnesota.

Mark Sanford of South Carolina is another possibility. I haven't looked at him closely, but I did a little reading when he was a possible VP nominee. He'd be popular with the base, and four years of socialism will make his more libertarian approach more appealing.

I don't want to see Charlie Crist of Florida in the race, but he would have some support. If he runs, he'll have a strong chance.

Sarah Palin will go back to being governor of Alaska. If she does a good job for the next four years, she'll receive some consideration. I worry that she's damaged beyond viability in much the same way that Dan Quayle became damaged by unfair media attacks.

Bill

76 posted on 11/04/2008 9:41:18 PM PST by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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To: Marie

Yes. Beat them at their own game.


77 posted on 11/04/2008 9:44:36 PM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: frankiep

Sarah Palin / David Horowitz


78 posted on 11/04/2008 10:01:04 PM PST by Birdsbane (If You Are Employed By A Liberal Democrat...Quit!)
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To: PhatHead

I haven’t seen the final result in Alaska—if Stevens was re-elected and has to resign, Palin could run for the Senate. Being in Washington would allow her to beef up her credentials on national and international issues (she has good judgment but needs to do something so that the inexperience charge won’t work the next time).


79 posted on 11/05/2008 5:59:20 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus

It looks like Stevens has won. I’m not certain I’d want her tarnished by being a Senator, but if she chooses to do that, I think it would be better to finish her term as Governor first. Murkowski got less than 50% of the vote in 2004, and Palin defeated her father for governor two years ago. That would be a winnable seat, I’d think.


80 posted on 11/05/2008 6:40:13 AM PST by PhatHead
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