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Soledad on CNN - the new America, minority is majority not Joe the Plumber

Posted on 11/04/2008 9:52:20 PM PST by indianyogi

I said a while back, the country as you know is gone because of Whites who do not believe in their own country.

And I am a minority.

Something shattered today deep inside my heart because American value system of heard work, imagine and make it happen is now replaced by feel good, talk big, do nothing, grab other peoples money generation.

Obama embodies all these traits and America got swept away.


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1 posted on 11/04/2008 9:52:20 PM PST by indianyogi
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To: indianyogi

They;re all in the tank with Obama...what else is new?

I think we give them too much credit when we act shocked or disgusted by their comments. We should look forward with an attitude that calls the media what they are, a wing of the DNC.

In addition to working hard against Obama, we also need to work even harder against the media, they will and have been a big part of the GOP’s downfall.


2 posted on 11/04/2008 9:55:10 PM PST by Def Conservative (Run and hide 08)
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To: indianyogi

It has nothing to do with white and black and brown. My wife is not white; but she shares the values of hard work and personal responsibility that you and I do.

It has everything to do with broken values. Plenty of white people have adopted the Oprah/Brittany Spears/Barak Obama culture as theirs. America broke tonight. But not because of color. It broke because the culture is broken—black, white and brown.


3 posted on 11/04/2008 9:56:48 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: Def Conservative
we also need to work even harder against the media

How? Six months from now, opposition speech will be gone.

4 posted on 11/04/2008 9:57:39 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (How do you like your media and CFR now, Senator McDole?)
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To: indianyogi

You’re right but don’t think for a minute it’s due to blacks, immigrants, or the most recent generation of young people. This society is suffering from deep veins of selfishness and narcissism, people lie to get ahead, America is not producing the leading scientists, we are skating by rather than accomplishing great things.

It all comes from affluience, we’re so rich we can indulge ourselves. Obama is an empty suit but he’s leading a society of empty suits.

Now, what will he do with it? We all think he’ll make things worse, but we’ll see.


5 posted on 11/04/2008 9:57:46 PM PST by Williams (It's The Policies, Stupid.)
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To: indianyogi

I know I heard this and they were all gloating about the takeover of the minorites and how dems don’t need whitey anymore. In other words, whitey is just going to have to get used to it from now on because minorities will be a permanant majority from now on.


6 posted on 11/04/2008 9:58:31 PM PST by snowstorm12
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To: indianyogi

This election was not really about that. It was a referendum on the incumbent party. I don’t believe America just wanted change.

If Obama overreaches, America will recoil against him.


7 posted on 11/04/2008 9:58:43 PM PST by DiogenesLaertius
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To: indianyogi

Soon she’ll be reminded that we get the government we deserve.


8 posted on 11/04/2008 10:00:35 PM PST by G Larry (Barack’s character has been molded by extremists)
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To: Def Conservative

If we’re serious about working hard against the media the *perfect* place to start is right here on Free Republic. I say we need Free Republic radio and TV. Anybody second that?


9 posted on 11/04/2008 10:00:38 PM PST by The Duke (I have met the enemy, and he is named 'Apathy'!)
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To: Def Conservative
This should also mean that racism in America is now officially over.

The law of unintended consequences.
10 posted on 11/04/2008 10:01:07 PM PST by Dissident1
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To: The Duke

That would be great.

We should stop being shocked by the media’s tactics and treat them as the enemy they are. Every time one of them is mentioned, we should replace the words “anchor” and “journalist” to liberal news commentator


11 posted on 11/04/2008 10:02:26 PM PST by Def Conservative (Run and hide 08)
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To: DiogenesLaertius

america may recoil, but it will be too late. Too many barriers will be put into place because of marxist leaning of three houses. On the other hand... at least I will feel somewhat smug when I hear my liberals neighbors start complaining about higher taxes and liberties disappearing.


12 posted on 11/04/2008 10:02:44 PM PST by Strutt9
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To: Dissident1

LOL. Black people are thinking of making yall pay. Trust me and they think Obama is just the vehicle for payback.


13 posted on 11/04/2008 10:03:10 PM PST by Def Conservative (Run and hide 08)
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To: Dissident1

Absolutely. NEVER let a liberal get away with the “racism” charge again. This ends it. Forever.


14 posted on 11/04/2008 10:03:46 PM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: DiogenesLaertius

I am not so sure, we are not only taliking abouy minorities, we are talking about minority groups not born here and not raised with some knowledge of American system.

I used to be one of them but only a handful of them


15 posted on 11/04/2008 10:05:22 PM PST by indianyogi
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To: indianyogi

It’s not a white or black thing, it’s a marxist thing, but they are all too stupid to know it.


16 posted on 11/04/2008 10:05:49 PM PST by Califreak (Hope -n- Che'nge is the battle cry of the zombies.)
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To: indianyogi
I remember my elders repeating JFK's words, "Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country."

I don't hear that very much anymore and it's replaced with an entitlement attitude.

17 posted on 11/04/2008 10:07:39 PM PST by TNdandelion (This should be fun.)
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To: Jeff Chandler
How? Six months from now, opposition speech will be gone.

Not if we prevent 60 and keep RINOs like McCain and Collins in line.

18 posted on 11/04/2008 10:07:45 PM PST by montag813
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To: ModelBreaker

For over a generation our schools have brain washed our kids to be ashamed of our country’s heritage and to feel guilty for existing as a nation. Obama was a natural for the younger generation to glom on to.

Now what does the GOP need to do regain its popularity? First off we don’t appeal at all to the young voters. The college Republicans at UTA disbanded last year due to lack of participation. When you go to GOP meetings, the people are all over 50.

My daughter who goes to public schools has become conservative in her thinking simply because I explain things to her in a logical fashion that makes sense to her. The GOP never made the sale because they did not explain what was happening in clear language that people understood.

For instance, McCain never called Obama on his tax plan as a rebate to people rather than a rate reduction. He never related to young people as to what a growing economy could mean to them.

Oh well, we lost and it is time to get our act together and stick together. This is a new day and we need to spend our time educating people on economics. For instance, Joe the Plumber made more sense than McCain.


19 posted on 11/04/2008 10:09:23 PM PST by lone star annie
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To: indianyogi
You all are seeing too much into this defeat of senator McCain. It is really very simple. GW Bush spent money like a drunken sailor, national debt went from 5 trillion to 10 trillion in 8 years without a single veto from GWB.

Then there was that unpopular war in Iraq run by penny pincher Rumsfeld. To top it all, Americans were allowed to borrow and spend using their homes as piggy banks. That house of cards collapsed just in time to fatally affect McCain.

20 posted on 11/04/2008 10:12:55 PM PST by ajay_kumar (President elect Obama, we will be watching you!)
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To: ajay_kumar

Socialism in America and America could not stop it?

What else America will not be able to stop!


21 posted on 11/04/2008 10:16:47 PM PST by indianyogi
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To: indianyogi

Whites in American have accepted the lie that believing in and supporting traditional American cutlure is racist.


22 posted on 11/04/2008 10:19:57 PM PST by Thane_Banquo (Barney Frank is a Fannie bandit.)
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To: indianyogi

I fault president Bush for spending like a drunken sailor.
He never used his veto pen while national debt DOUBLED in 8 years.
I fault secretary Rumsfeld for running a war with a bean counter approach.
I fault GOP voters for nominating the worst possible telegenic candidate in this age of HD Television.


23 posted on 11/04/2008 10:23:14 PM PST by ajay_kumar (President elect Obama, we will be watching you!)
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To: Thane_Banquo

Wouldn’t that be a marxist lie?


24 posted on 11/04/2008 10:42:23 PM PST by Califreak (Hope -n- Che'nge is the battle cry of the zombies.)
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To: indianyogi

I truly believe it was about the gap between the wealthy and the folks struggling from paycheck to paycheck - (particularly in this economy.) The well-to-do never took the issues of the large struggling lower middle class and lower class seriously. The well to do arrogantly chalked these class struggles up to just not working hard enough. The well to do never took the right steps to try and narrow the gap and the disenfranchised lower class voted for Obama in their own perceived best interests.

McCain could never sell his plan to folks who would not see themselves directly benefiting from his programs. He could not adequately explain why they should be left out of the bailouts in order to do the things that would actually stimulate the economy. He could not explain why tax relief should go to the already well-to-do.

Personaly, I will benefit from Obama’s economic and health plans as touted. There will probably be social and economic spread the wealth programs to assist me. But I chose McCain because I understood that the price of economic relief will be the surrender of freedom. I am so disappointed that my fellow citizens did not see that as well. I feel my generation let my children and grandchildren down. Sad to have lost such a great legacy.


25 posted on 11/04/2008 11:09:17 PM PST by marsh2
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To: Jeff Chandler
How? Six months from now, opposition speech will be gone.

Talk is cheap. How many of the disillusioned will continue to watch their stupid programs on ABC, CBS, NBC, buy their advertisers products, etc? Money talks but I don't see 55,386,310 voters stopping their feeding at the troughs of entertainment and products.

26 posted on 11/05/2008 6:13:03 AM PST by Lent
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To: Lent

Brave New World. fun fun fun. thinking is hard. bless the model-T. FREE STUFF!!!!!!

It is a world of gammas.

BTW the investor class heard obama’s speech as class warefare.

Job numbers are horrendous and CNBC is saying the financial numbers have ended obama’s honeymoon.

Oprah gave him a free car and now there is a HUGE tax bill and no gasoline in the tank.


27 posted on 11/05/2008 6:19:22 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Lent

how many will still have credit cards in six months?

how many will still have jobs in six months?

Obama is focusing on social engineering and deck chair placement.

The ecconomy is SCREAMING FOR FUEL, and obama seeks to sign the ban on drilling.

Obama wants to bankrupt america.

VOICE YOUR OPINION FOLKS, let the lame stream media know they are going to have to keep up their kowtowing permanently. If they only say the same thing, then they are easily replaced by the younger face de jour.

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28 posted on 11/05/2008 6:22:56 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: ajay_kumar
"GW Bush spent money like a drunken sailor, national debt went from 5 trillion to 10 trillion in 8 years...'

Absolute nonsense!

National debt rose about 1.1 trillion under Bush and 1/2 trillion of that was an inherent debt due to the recession decreasing federal revenue from 2000 - 2003. You need to spend some time at the US Treasury website studying the yearly and monthly budget statements of receipts, outlays (on and off budget).

29 posted on 11/05/2008 8:38:07 AM PST by avacado
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To: indianyogi

BTTT


30 posted on 11/05/2008 9:39:29 AM PST by Chgogal (Voting "Present" 130 times might be a sign of a smart politician. It is not a sign of a good leader.)
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To: ModelBreaker; indianyogi
It has nothing to do with white and black and brown. My wife is not white; but she shares the values of hard work and personal responsibility that you and I do. It has everything to do with broken values. Plenty of white people have adopted the Oprah/Brittany Spears/Barak Obama culture as theirs. America broke tonight. But not because of color. It broke because the culture is broken—black, white and brown.

Amen to that. Broken values. The voters have spoken, everyone wants to be taken care of. And be rich and famous. It's ironic really that we as a culture have bowed to the highest god of Independence (you know, from parents, from morals, from personal responsibility, everyone wants to get rich quick, MTV Cribs style) and yet the voters have spoken, what they really want is someone to take care of them nanny style and tell them what to do and how to think. Like spoiled preschoolers.

31 posted on 11/05/2008 10:01:15 AM PST by fortunecookie
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To: ajay_kumar
GW Bush spent money like a drunken sailor, that should read like a drunken Ted Kennedy... sailors are not all drunk...
32 posted on 11/05/2008 10:43:01 AM PST by JoanneSD (illegals represented without taxation.. Americans taxed without representation)
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To: indianyogi

Joe the Plumber needs to get ready. The Federal government is coming after him. Then us.


33 posted on 11/05/2008 10:45:13 AM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: ajay_kumar
GW Bush spent money like a drunken sailor, that should read like a drunken Ted Kennedy... sailors are not all drunk...
34 posted on 11/05/2008 10:51:25 AM PST by JoanneSD (illegals represented without taxation.. Americans taxed without representation)
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To: ajay_kumar

Add to this list an opponent which outspent McCain about 3:1 and a media which was in the tank for him, and it is amazing the election was as close as it was.


35 posted on 11/05/2008 11:44:14 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Little known fact: Barack Obama translated into Kenyan means "Jimmy Carter")
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To: indianyogi

The left controls all the elements of propaganda. When schools indoctrinate rather than educate. When politicians bribe us with our own money thinking someone else is paying for it. When history and civics is not taught in our schools. When guilt and shame is the currency of the day, we get what we got yesterday. Too many conservatives are waiting for a Reagan. They waited for as “leader”. The fact is we must lead ourselves.


36 posted on 11/05/2008 2:00:04 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Cacique
The left controls all the elements of propaganda.

And the "Fairness" Doctrine will not apply to them.

37 posted on 11/05/2008 2:04:34 PM PST by windsorknot
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To: lone star annie

“Now what does the GOP need to do regain its popularity? First off we don’t appeal at all to the young voters. The college Republicans at UTA disbanded last year due to lack of participation. When you go to GOP meetings, the people are all over 50.”

1. I know it’s hard work; but every conservative should be homeschooling their children. Public schools and most private schools are the heart of the problem. My wife and I both work full time jobs and manage to do it.

2. We need to start building affordable colleges that are explicitly and proudly conservative.

3. Until the current whoopee burns out, we will appeal to noone. The important thing is to constantly emphasize that Obama and his buds got us into this credit crisis. What are they going to do to get us out. Assignment of blame for the coming hard times will be the second most important thing we accomplish. It has to be squarely pinned where it belongs. America is now Obama’s to break and break it he will. But socialists can never believe that they broke something. It is always someone elses fault. The public has to understand that what is coming is Obama’s and Nancy’s fault.

That’s going to be a long education process. But we need to keep saying it OVER AND OVER for years if necessary. Obama’s accepting funds from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, Obama’s refusal over and over to regulate them. Obama’s embrace of Franklin Raines. If you say it enough, it gets thru the noise. Heck, the left did it to Bush with lies. We ought to be able to do it to Obama with the truth.

We have to be saying over and over. The American people have decided to try socialism to solve our problems. We respect but disagree with that decision. This will not work. It will not solve our problems. Big government created the problems. It cannot solve them. That will be come clear and when it does, we are ready to fix things.

Keep predicting problems. Keep pointing out that Obama has complete control of our nation. Failure to make things better is squarely on his shoulders.

3a. Conservatives have to firmly break with RINO republicans. Now’s the time to do it. R’s have no say in the governing of the Republic. So it’s no problem if we have less. We have to convert people to small gvt conservatism, not to Republicanism. The Republican brand name is broken. George Bush and our majority R congress broke it. Maybe it’s time to discard it.

4. We need to start being conservatives again. Small government conseratives. When Obama breaks things, we have to be waiting with the simple argument: “There they go again. Government is not the solution. It is the problem.”

5. Sarah Palin needs to start a four year campaign to increase her stature and profile. Lots of speaking engagements. Lots of contact with the public. A lot like Reagan did between the governorship and the presidency.

Just some thoughts. Short and long term.


38 posted on 11/05/2008 3:03:04 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: indianyogi

She’s another idiot who looks pretty. What the heck? Is she saying minority (black, hispanic) don’t work? That we have no ambition like Joe? This is stupid Marxist class-based thinking; that you are permanently a member of the class you were born in.


39 posted on 11/05/2008 9:23:33 PM PST by Clock King (Democracy has failed completely.)
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To: indianyogi
Soledad on CNN - the new America, minority is majority not Joe the Plumber

What happens when your idea of reality conflicts with the reality that exists?

Choices are to accept reality or to attempt to impose false reality upon those who live in reality. With the term "new America" you can see what their idea is. Groupthink attempts to impose ideal reality upon others and it always fails.

With disastrous results.

40 posted on 11/06/2008 6:22:36 AM PST by Only1choice____Freedom (Her couch is tougher than 0bama.)
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To: ModelBreaker

White persons not Hispanic, percent, 2006 66.4%

State & County QuickFacts
http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html

There should be no balkanization of people here — we are Americans first!!


41 posted on 11/06/2008 1:27:46 PM PST by victim soul
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To: indianyogi

Soledad on CNN - the new America, minority is majority not Joe the Plumber...

I was worried when ‘hip-hop started to become mainstream... It seemed like ‘60s counter culture’ music, only it got a pass because it was music from a ‘minority’, even though much of the lyric was confrontational and filled with violence.

White youth adopted hip-hop to be ‘cool’ just like we did back then. Now, white youth think it’s ‘cool’ to have a black man in The White House. They don’t care about his politics.

Minorities may very well become a majority if our white youth continue to behave like something they’re not.

I did enjoy Obama’s remark to a youth to ‘pull his pants up’, but the damage is done. Our white youth have lost their cultural identity.


42 posted on 11/06/2008 2:13:26 PM PST by Spatha
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To: Spatha

And let’s not forget, Soledad, that there is a black man now as POTUS. The black man is NOW in control. That being said, blacks can NO LONGER say that they cannot be racist, and whites are.

You see, the black man now has the power! Blacks are racist, and whites cannot be.

And slowly we turn.....


43 posted on 11/06/2008 2:20:38 PM PST by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: ModelBreaker

“It has nothing to do with white and black and brown. My wife is not white; but she shares the values of hard work and personal responsibility that you and I do.

It has everything to do with broken values. Plenty of white people have adopted the Oprah/Brittany Spears/Barak Obama culture as theirs. America broke tonight. But not because of color. It broke because the culture is broken—black, white and brown.”

Contrary to your idea, the polls suggest the voters rejected the GOP, who they blame for an unpopular long war, and a crappy economy.

Nothing to do with color or culture.


44 posted on 11/06/2008 2:32:57 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: DiogenesLaertius
If Obama overreaches, America will recoil against him.

And that is exactly why they move the country left in increments, yet he does have some incentive to move things aggressively. This video asks you to get the bananas out.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k6KUDv1wzraWhwlBt1

45 posted on 11/06/2008 11:18:20 PM PST by Earthdweller (Socialism makes you feel better about oppressing people.....)
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To: indianyogi
Anyone get it?

She is a racist.

46 posted on 11/11/2008 8:14:33 PM PST by Peter Libra
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To: indianyogi

CNN rots your brain.


47 posted on 11/14/2008 7:27:03 AM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: indianyogi

We need secession ASAP. It could save some of us for sure.


48 posted on 11/14/2008 7:33:19 AM PST by o2bfree
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To: Red in Blue PA
Add to this list an opponent which outspent McCain about 3:1 and a media which was in the tank for him, and it is amazing the election was as close as it was

I find it funny that the republican party, as the 'party of the rich', was outspent 3 to 1 by the 'party of the poor'.

How do the libs explain that?
49 posted on 11/14/2008 7:46:26 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (Obama, you are NOT my President!)
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To: indianyogi

Change is the only constant in the universe. Soon rather than later Obama will be swept aside by change.


50 posted on 11/15/2008 11:32:42 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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