Skip to comments.No more Bush I's. No more Doles. No Bush II's. No McCain's. Toward the Next Reagan/Thatcher?
Posted on 11/04/2008 10:23:01 PM PST by quesney
No. more. RINO's.
Whether it's Palin, Jindahl, Joe The Plumber or someone as yet unknown, we have to be focused on reforming the decrepit GOP.
We must find the next Reagan, because this country is going to need him or her and true conservatives will not tolerate another Bush-Dole-Mcain ever again. Ever.
First, we start with the darkest red states with the smallest populations. Such places (Wyoming, South Dakota, Idaho, etc.) will be cheap places in which to campaign for a low-budget conservative candidate. After a succession of primaries in these states, we would move on to all of the big red states in a "Super Tuesday" type setup. If there is no nominee after this vote, then we have a second "Super Tuesday" in the big blue states. Finally, we would finish off with the small blue states.
I'd like to have all primaries/caucuses be a winner-take-all format so that a nominee is chosen quickly. I'd also penalize any state that goes out of order by taking away half of their delegates and reallocating them to the smaller states. For states which have open primaries, they too would lose half of their delegates and have them reallocated. If a state went out of order and had an open primary, it would lose 3/4 of its delegates and have them reallocated to the smaller states.
This is assuming Obama doesn’t just do away with term limits and stay as POTUS for as long as he likes. Nothing seems out of the realm of possibility at this point.
If he put it up to a vote I would guess the American sheeple who elected him would gladly keep him on forever.
I was not among those who advocated McCains loss because he was not a true conservative, but now that its done, can we be honest?
McCain was Bushs third term. Bush won the base on abortion and taxes alone, because he pushed the party left on everything else. Fortunately for America, Bush did most of the right things on national security in response to 9/11. Other than that* his presidency was immensely damaging to the party.
I’m not glad Obama won, but let’s look on the bright side - we are now free of Bushism (and McCainism) and can look for some real, conservative leaders.
In the meantime, we lead the opposition. As dark as the early Clinton days seemed at first, they were soon followed by some very heady days: Dan’s Bake Sale, the tomato-pelting of the “Health Care Express” buses, the Republican tsunami of 1994; here in my town and state, takeovers of the school board, the state legislature, and more; the explosion of talk radio and conservative publishing houses. Am I the only one who lived for the next issue of National Review, American Spectator, and (pre-internet) the Conservative Chronicle back in the day? Thos publications are not the same when they are half consumed with making excuses for an inadequate administration.
History is made when ideology and ambition clash with the great events of our time. I do not see Obama as a great man or a great leader. Who knows what events are in store? It is certain that he wants to implement socialism, but there is no guarantee that he will succeed, and every reason to believe that he will fail, and fail miserably. History, on its own, may stop him. But sometimes history needs a little push. That’s our job.
And on top of all that, for anybody who even so much as uses the word “racism,” we can now point to the White House and say, “Racism? That is so last century! Welcome to the 21st, caveman.”
Buck up, my friends! This is OUR time! President-elect Obama may not know that, but he soon will!
* Yes, I know, “Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?”
“First, we need to scrap the current primary system for the GOP. No blue state should have any say early on in the nominating process for the GOP....”
So help me God, if anyone else suggests that Jeb Bush run for anything at all, I am gonna scream! I support the Constitution of the United States, after that, Sarah Palin, after that, Bobby Jindal, after that, no-one.
Reagan won as much for being a great communicator and a very charismatic person... much the same reason people voted for Obama tonight... more than anything, in this star struck, American Idol nation... people don’t care if a person is a commie or a conservative, they want someone who can speak and exudes self-confidence. After 8 years of a president who is possibly the WORST communicator ever the voters bought into this man hook, line and sinker... to beat him you have to have someone else who catches the American spark... people don’t care what the person believes... they proved it tonight, especially when the people in PA know Obama wants to put a large portion of their state out of work.
Rick Perry-Gov. TX. You’re going to hear his name thrown around.
I’m not advocating one way or the other. Just a hunch.
No Surrender! Romney-Palin in 2012!
“Whether it’s Palin, Jindahl, Joe The Plumber or someone as yet unknown, we have to be focused on reforming the decrepit GOP.”
It is going to happen.
Time to get the conservative house in order and then payback time.
And I LIKE Sarah Palin.
We need to back conservatives, they need to get out there, be known, campaign for other conservatives and be known to the public.
Get them into the election hopper so they are there to vote for when we need them.
This had to happen anyways, but I expect now people will be much more motivated to make it happen.
Secondly, we have to be more forgiving of our own. If a guy like Romney wants to rebuild the party, we need to quit finding fault with his religion or his inconsistency on being pro-life, because Mormonism is alot better than Obama's black liberation theology (which no one else seemed to mind) and being late-to-the-party on being pro-life is better than never showing up at all. Tonight America elected (and is worshiping) a guy that doesn't measure up to any of the candidates we had and we were too picky to notice.
Thirdly, we have to do alot better at getting media people on our team. Sad as it is, we need people who are telegenic. Reagan was. He was a great man, a visionary, and a marvelous speaker--but he was an actor first and nice looking. Sarah was a hit because she was easy on the eyes. Jindal looks fine on camera. McCain was handsome but too old. No more golden oldies. And we need to use those media people to make it happen on the next media, be it youtube, satellite radio, or whatever.
Lastly, we need to get serious about money. McCain paid the price for his disloyalty to Bush and his stupid campaign finance bill. We need to put our money where our mouths are or quit complaining.
We need to get serious about our affiliations. If our kids don't support our values and political aims, we need to cut money off. We need to find vendors, service people, etc. who are sympathetic and use them. My new handyman is a McCain supporter and I feel good about promoting him. My hairdresser is scared to death about the effect of Obama taxes on her business. I went to a fabric store and the woman had on an Obama pin--I'll never buy another item from that store. We need to stand up at our churches, too, and if the message from the pulpit is socialist, pro-gay, apologetic for Islam, etc. we need to make sure that we are not there and not supporting their ideas. We need to be as loud and in-your-face as Obama insisted his followers, his thugocracy, is.
We may be defeated tonight but there will be more elections and we need to shape up. We have seen the power of the competition and we know what we need to do.
and, BTW, in case anyone thinks congress gives a rip what any of us have to say, think again, there was a blurb yesterday on Fox that all of the congressmen and women up for election got the majority of their re-election funds from lobbyists in DC... they own our congress lock, stock and barrel and WE are the dupes who keep sending them back with our votes.
Republicans have to be strongly pro-life and traditional values. but they also have to cut taxes and spending and be strong on national security. Just like with energy policy, we need an *all of the above* approach.
I was not a McCain supporter in the primaries. I didn't care much for his centrist message; however, my main concern was that he isn't (and I can say this at my age) young enough to attract superficial voters. Further, he isn't quite glib enough to "wow" em in debates.
I actually gained a lot of respect for McCain during his candidacy, and I wish him well.
And I still think that Mitt would have won the election. The man has conservative principles (although some arrived at fairly late in the game), and he speaks with facility.
If we want to pick a Reagan conservative, I have some unfortunate news. The man was unique, and I do not know of another Reagan.
We'll find a principled and attractive candidate for 2012. We just need to keep the Dems and independents from voting in our primaries.
Traditional values and pro-life are all fine and dandy, but if you look back through posts on this board, a lot of conservatives were considered un-electable not because they lack any conservative credentials on any base, but because they didn’t utter ‘Jesus Christ is my savior.’
An all of the above approach is great, but if the test on those who have all of the above is based simply on a religious statement, then we might as well toss in the towel, as we shatter our own votes yet again, and let slip in /another/ Rino.
I firmly believe that conservatism genuinely articulated, passionately articulated wins in national elections most every time its tried.
EXACTLY! and you have to have the right messenger... and not one man who ran this year had that ability... Palin has it, Jindal “may” have it.... Romney does not have it and neither does Huckabee... Thompson could have done it if he was 15 years younger and in great health.
yup. exactly. Even if we had the most solid conservative but he is as dull as a butter knife, he won’t go anywhere. We need substance but style still matters!