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Brooklyn Marine sergeant & wife tortured, slain in Calif.; 4 of his men are arrested
The Daily News ^ | 11.06.08 | CORKY SIEMASZKO

Posted on 11/06/2008 7:45:18 AM PST by Chickensoup

Updated Thursday, November 6th 2008, 10:35 AM

Brooklyn Marine Sgt. Jan Pawel Pietrzak and his wife, Quiana, seen in August wedding photo, were found tortured and slain Oct. 15 in their home near San Diego. A Brooklyn-raised Marine sergeant and his new bride were tortured and killed execution-style in their California home - allegedly by four other Marines under his command.

Sgt. Jan Pawel Pietrzak, who was raised in Bensonhurst, and his wife, Quiana, were found bound and gagged in the ransacked house, each shot in the head.

Pietrzak was the suspects' sergeant at Camp Pendleton, Quiana's mother said Wednesday.

"They're monsters," Faye Jenkins told the Daily News. "They're monsters."

Pietrzak's mother, Henryka Pietrzak-Varga, said she had prepared herself "for the possibility that my son could die in Iraq."

"But to die like this, in their own home?" she told The News. "They were good kids. They didn't deserve to die like this."

Investigators said the motive for murder was "financial gain." Neither mother believes that.

"When I found out what they did to them, it was like they killed me, too," Pietrzak-Varga said.

A spokesman for the Riverside County district attorney's office would not comment on reports that Pietrzak was killed by his own men.

(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...


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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

That puts us in a really uncomfortable position.

Morality/principles are simultaneously our greatest strength and our greatest weakness. Nevertheless, I’m not ready to give them up. I certainly am not ready to hear fellow conservatives embracing liberalism, and intend to love them enough to rebuke them for their sins and point out transgressions.
FRegards


51 posted on 11/06/2008 11:26:46 AM PST by Harrius Magnus (LIBERALS: We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity.)
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To: lynny

They get free weapons training and lots of good tactical information... and get paid to learn it all!


52 posted on 11/06/2008 11:26:53 AM PST by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: John Williams

To some, brown sugar and crackers don’t mix.


53 posted on 11/06/2008 11:27:22 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: Chickensoup

I was a Marine for 8 years, and worked in aviation maintenance.

As you can imagine, you go through extensive schooling. And that’s after boot camp and the other “Basine marine” training afterwards.

3 of the 4 POS involved are Privates (”pvt”)E-1- lowest ranking enlisted men. Not many Privates in the Fleet. I bet at least some, and probably all, have disciplinary records and have been busted even prior this horrible crime.

Hanging is too good for these creeps if they are the guilty parties, but it’ll do.


54 posted on 11/06/2008 12:03:55 PM PST by Mac from Cleveland (Joe Biden behind a microphone is like Ted Kennedy behind a steering wheel)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

They’d REALLY love me and my wife, then!!!


55 posted on 11/06/2008 12:04:31 PM PST by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: Mac from Cleveland

I meant “Basic Marine”-sorry had a glitch


56 posted on 11/06/2008 12:04:49 PM PST by Mac from Cleveland (Joe Biden behind a microphone is like Ted Kennedy behind a steering wheel)
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To: Mac from Cleveland

How about a few weeks spent in the embrace of the Iron Maiden? Or a real soul-cleansing SLOW bath in a vat of boiling oil? Should they survive either one (or both), we could then hang them.


57 posted on 11/06/2008 12:06:53 PM PST by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: dcwusmc
They’d REALLY love me and my wife, then!!!

What? Are you married to an African Princess ;o)

58 posted on 11/06/2008 12:19:30 PM PST by papertyger
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To: Chickensoup

WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE????

ITS ABOUT G-D TIME THE MEDIA ADDRESSED THE TREATMENT OF WHITES BY RACIST BLACKS WHO HATE INTERRACIAL COUPLES.


59 posted on 11/06/2008 1:22:24 PM PST by Seven Minute Maniac
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To: lynny
Why in the world would a gang member join the Army?

To get weapons training and combat experience.

Now ask yourself why they would do that.

L

60 posted on 11/06/2008 1:24:32 PM PST by Lurker (Thank you Governor Palin. It's not your fault. You got shackled to the worst Pub since Ford.)
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To: Aaron0617

http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2008/11/05/news/californian/riverside/z79ebe59196c4d445882574f80071dcbc.txt

61 posted on 11/06/2008 7:34:04 PM PST by Aaron0617
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To: Chickensoup

Fine Polish-American patriot and his beautiful wife fragged on the homefront. Methinks his killers were humps who were jealous that he got a woman that would never even look at them for a second.


62 posted on 11/06/2008 7:38:02 PM PST by Clemenza (Red is the Color of Virility, Blue is the Color of Impotence)
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To: jazusamo
Not to worry.

Now that Obama is President, he's going to help them become Architects, Lawyers, and Firemen!

(If you didn't see the military chanting video this post will make no sense)

63 posted on 11/06/2008 7:43:36 PM PST by Lizavetta
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To: Chickensoup

Break out the body restraints and the sharpened potato peelers.


64 posted on 11/06/2008 7:51:10 PM PST by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called "Conservative" is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
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To: lynny
Free training. Not only is it free but with pay. Then they go back from whence they came and teach what they have subsequently learned to their fellow members. One gang member in the armed forces killed 2 police officers and pinned down a 3rd, the police weren't taught with those highly advanced tactics in mind. The 4th officer who arrived was finally able to take control of the situation.

Also it is out of necessity, the necessity of being the best disciplined gang with the most advanced tactics for regional domination when warring with other gangs. For instance in the following video, a gang member in the military was able to send back vital information for fire placement, and the construction of an effective ambush for rival gang members.

Watch this for more in depth information.

65 posted on 11/06/2008 7:51:33 PM PST by Xenophon450 ( The stain of freedom, he's washed it out... who’s rocking the cradle? I have no doubt...)
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To: jazusamo

Bruthas should be chillin’. In the morgue.


66 posted on 11/06/2008 8:00:08 PM PST by Infidel Puppy
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To: lynny
Also I may add, the lower tier Gang membership, those on the street who are the raw recruits have no real idea what it's like at the higher tier of those who are essentially married to the gang itself. They see it as a escape from a normal job and and having to answer to a boss.

Those who advance up to the upper tier (which is generally found within maximum security holding facilities) see a veil lifted. They soon find out, when inducted that they shall serve a boss, but... he will be even more tyrannical and apathetic to their conditions than a real boss of a corporation or a drill sergeant could hope to envision. There will be no tolerance of mistakes, if you fail, you will be squashed, like cockroach. Failure to kill friends, or sell drugs to children will incur immediate termination, but there will be no severance pay.

In reality the Army or any other Armed force fits quite well with higher tier gang lifestyle. It is extremely regimented and you receive orders daily. Gerald Rubalcaba is a Ex-Marine, which I think you may use ex here very aptly. He is one of the leading members of the Prison gang, La Nuestra Familia. Many prison gangs have a reading list for those who wish to advance, they must read and master works by Mao, Machiavelli and a whole gamut of others. It is this elite Gang Echelon who encourage military enlistment, they know it will enhance the lethality of this organization (or as it is called in NF, "the O").

Those in the prison send out orders much like those in Washington send out orders to those commanders on the field. Also much like those in Washington, they have unrealistic expectations and really haven't a clue as to those who are actually on the ground.

Mind you I am not comparing soldiers of class and character to thugs, I am just bestowing some understanding with this analogy.

The Armed forces are plagued by these self serving parasites, however more is being done to deal with this malady. None of this in anyway diminishes the accomplishments of those serving honorably. Once again, this is simply for illumination on this matter.

67 posted on 11/06/2008 8:25:02 PM PST by Xenophon450 ( The stain of freedom, he's washed it out... who’s rocking the cradle? I have no doubt...)
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To: Issaquahking
Who cares if they were interracial?

The four black murderers who killed this white man and raped and murdered his black wife apparently cared a great deal.

68 posted on 11/07/2008 8:54:43 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who like to be called Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: lynny

They do try to get in. At basic training they are checked for tattoos. If they find any gang related markings they’re gone—out, no gos.


69 posted on 11/07/2008 10:08:39 AM PST by Proud Legions
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All four men admitted to investigators that Quiana Jenkins-Pietrzak was sexually assaulted during the robbery, the document states.

However, each said it was the other three who did it, according to LeClair’s affidavit.

Sykes admitted that he was the one who cut the woman’s clothes off and held her while she was sexually assaulted by the other three men, the document states.


70 posted on 11/07/2008 10:21:32 AM PST by WaterBoard (Somewhere a Village is Missing it's Socialist.)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
Training - hand to hand combat - tactics.

Recruiting (disgruntled soldiers, etc...) and networking, as well.

71 posted on 11/07/2008 10:22:41 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (Ever notice that Obama supporters chant "O-Bahm-AH" while McCain/Palin supporters chant "U-S-A".)
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To: Chickensoup
The killers were four black men. Since Tuesday there have been several racial incidents here in Seattle. Blacks telling whites that “your days are numbered” etc. Too many blacks see BO’s move to the White House as a sign that it's time to “get Whitey”. I don't blame them for thinking BO approves of that kind of violence because he attended a church that preached it for 20 years. If BO is removed for funding fraudulent votes, or being born in Kenya he will make good on his promise. He made this about pitting the white and black races against each other and he will encourage racial riots. He's already laid the groundwork for it. Could get scary.
72 posted on 11/07/2008 10:28:41 AM PST by ethical
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To: jazusamo

Here is the shooter’s ‘MySpace’ page:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=371067554


73 posted on 11/07/2008 10:32:38 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: wideawake

Didn’t the article say it was for “quick gain”? How does a robbery/murder become a racially motivated crime?


74 posted on 11/07/2008 10:52:51 AM PST by nclaurel
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To: nclaurel
Didn’t the article say it was for “quick gain”?

The article can say anything it wants.

Let's do two logical exercises:

(1) When a murderer is arrested for raping and killing the inhabitants of a house he broke into, he can either (a) admit that he planned to kill them all along or (b) he can say that he only planned to rob them and the murder and rape was an accident, or perhaps the situation just got out of hand.

Option (a) would mean that he was confessing to premeditated murder, a death penalty offense. Option (b) would mean that he was confessing to second degree murder, which would spare him the death penalty.

Just because a murderer is smart enough to choose option (b) as his story when there is enough evidence to put a needle in his arm doesn't mean he's telling the truth.

Logical exercise (2):

The murderers were personally known by face, name and place of employment to the murder victims. The victims were Marines who served in the same unit with one of the victims and were known socially to both of them.

Is it logical to believe that these murderers intended to break into a home owned by people who knew them, while those same people were home, and only wanted to rob them - knowing full well that their victims could have the police waiting outside their own homes to arrest them before they got back from the robbery?

No, they committed crimes against these people because they intended that there would be no witnesses left alive to identify them.

Moreover, why would four young, strong, well-trained men in need of loot break into the home of a man who made the exact same modest salary taht they did?

Wouldn't robbing a wealthy person's house be a more logical move?

75 posted on 11/07/2008 11:18:43 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who like to be called Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: wideawake

Using your arguments still doesn’t say this was a racially motivated crime. They were murderous nuts by any argument and could have killed any race. Black on black crimes are far higher than any other.


76 posted on 11/07/2008 11:33:44 AM PST by nclaurel
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To: nclaurel
Using your arguments still doesn’t say this was a racially motivated crime.

If you are interested in burglary you do not target someone you personally know who makes the exact same salary you do.

Burglary was no the motive.

It was clearly something personal.

77 posted on 11/07/2008 11:40:23 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who like to be called Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: nclaurel
Using your arguments still doesn’t say this was a racially motivated crime. They were murderous nuts by any argument and could have killed any race. Black on black crimes are far higher than any other.

Take one women who will not date Marines and probably turned down these guys for dates. Enter the Sargent of these guys and he sweeps her off her feet.

78 posted on 11/07/2008 11:43:54 AM PST by ColdWater
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To: wideawake

Doesn’t mean it was racially motivated is my point. Nuts like that are not discriminating people. Blacks lowlifes kill whites and blacks.


79 posted on 11/07/2008 11:47:15 AM PST by nclaurel
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To: ColdWater

I can only assume you read an article I did not in addition to this one. It doesn’t say more than she was reluctant to date a marine-it never says she even knew the murderers. It also says they owned a 5 bedroom home. Since we usually don’t know how others finance their homes, I might assume anyone having a 5 bedroom home was wealthy aside from military pay. He was a clean cut officer compared to the nuts. He could have been black and under the same circumstances have been their target.
I am not defending them because I believe there is a certain element of our population that has no regard for any others—regardless of race.


80 posted on 11/07/2008 11:58:56 AM PST by nclaurel
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To: ethical

The killers were four black men. Since Tuesday there have been several racial incidents here in Seattle. Blacks telling whites that “your days are numbered” etc. Too many blacks see BO’s move to the White House as a sign that it’s time to “get Whitey”. I don’t blame them for thinking BO approves of that kind of violence because he attended a church that preached it for 20 years. If BO is removed for funding fraudulent votes, or being born in Kenya he will make good on his promise. He made this about pitting the white and black races against each other and he will encourage racial riots. He’s already laid the groundwork for it. Could get scary.

Is going to get scary. Thugs will rule. That will be the communtiy service piece.


81 posted on 11/07/2008 12:51:06 PM PST by Chickensoup (we owe HUSSEIN & Democrats the exact kind respect & loyalty that they showed us, Bush & Reagan)
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To: Lancey Howard

Mrs Officer is on his playlist???


82 posted on 11/07/2008 12:55:42 PM PST by Chickensoup (we owe HUSSEIN & Democrats the exact kind respect & loyalty that they showed us, Bush & Reagan)
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To: wideawake

“It was clearly something personal.”

Agreed.

E-4’s don’t make that much and living off base and making a mortgage payment didn’t leave much of the two modest paychecks. The list is long but it seems most likely he was having problems at work with one or more of these POS. It will come out at trial.


83 posted on 11/07/2008 8:59:14 PM PST by frog in a pot (Is there a definition of "domestic enemies" as used in federal oaths, or is that just lip service?)
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To: nclaurel

Sorry, we’re past the whole, “you can’t prosecute a person for what they are thinking” argument. Libs do it all the time. They even gave it a catchy name. “Hate Crimes”. It’s time to use it against them. Until they beg us to stop.


84 posted on 11/07/2008 9:10:24 PM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: Chickensoup

bookmark


85 posted on 11/20/2008 8:50:25 PM PST by katykelly
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To: Issaquahking
I agree. When a service member is killed by a civilian death should come swift and righteous.

When a service member is killed by a fellow service member then that death should follow a shaming process that strips that person of all military honors.

When a family member of a service member is killed by a fellow service member - see above - with the service member having first dibs.

BUT... When a service member is killed BY HIS OWN MEN who then kill his family...The death should be slow and follow guidelines that are ancient and brutal.

I love people and I respect life but some times people lose their right and their brutal death becomes an example.

May GOD forgive you, I don't.

86 posted on 11/20/2008 10:45:13 PM PST by truemiester ((If the U.S. should fail, a veil of darkness will come over the Earth for a thousand years))
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