Posted on 11/06/2008 1:35:14 PM PST by Demosthenes
Forgive me for rehashing this if anybody is tired of reading it, but I finally did all of the research for myself, and have some info you may not have seen.
Barack Obama has never shown his birth certificate. Allow me to explain. A "certification" of live birth is a copy document, accessible by the public, or government agencies, and usually a relatively legally acceptable document in most scenarios. You can use it at the DMV, or to get a passport.
A "Certificate" of live birth is the actual document itself, created on the day/moment of the event, and it is a hospital-maintained record in most cases, accessible only by immediate family and the person for whom it was issued.
Here is what Barack Obama's website put out initially:
http://www.politifact.com/media/img/graphics/birthCertObama.jpg
This image is a fraud, plain and simple. There is no state seal, no Registrar's signature, and only a vague June 2007 stamp on the reverse side. Both the signature and seal are easily visible in any photocopy, and are deliberately so. The artifacts surrounding the text are clear photoshop work. Giving Obama the benefit of the doubt, probably some overzealous aide generated it from a viewing of the regular document.
This is an image from Factcheck.org of what the website put out, excpet here we have an actual photograph, in high resolution, proving the website document a forgery. Notice, this document has the necessary seals and signatures:
http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_6.jpg
This is, at least, a real document from the State Records office. It is still not an actual copy of the Certificate of Live Birth. The State seal and signature on this document certify to all viewers that this document was created by an actual State Agency, is not a forgery, and that the State of Hawaii accept it as a legal and valid document.
Remember, this is simply a legal substitute for the real birth certificate.
Both of these were offered up as "Birth Cretificates" when they are in fact legally-acceptable substitutes for the real thing. In most cases, this is not a big deal. However, in the case of a US President, I believe they are a VERY big deal.
An actual Certificate of Live Birth in Hawaii, through the 1960s, looks like this:
http://snarkybytes.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/hawaii-birth-certificate-1963.jpg
And the critical bit of information it discloses is the location of Birth.
They are very specific about that, and there are boxes for the location, be it hospital, home, foreign country or otherwise.
This is the document that has been sealed by the Governor of Hawaii in 2008, in a special action that affected only Obama's Birth Certificate.
How very convenient.
Why has special action bee taken to prevent this document from being seen?
Because, I suspect, there is information on it which would directly contradict public statements about his birth and begin unraveling a number of lies told to the public about his true origin, and raise serious questions about his eligibility.
His sister, and Grandmother in Kenya have both spoken publicly, and made statements about his locale of birth that contradict his own statements.
Why hide it, Mr. Obama?
What reason on earth would you have for asking the Governor of Hawaii to hide this document on your behalf?
First I’ve heard of this.
Even if it showed he was born on MARS, it would make absolutely no difference now.................
Sorry that the post is duplicated, but I keep putting it up in the hopes that we will get to work to correct the loophole which allowed this mess.
So.....
CALL FOR ACTION:
Please, all Fellow FREEPERS, please consider doing the following to prevent this mess of questionable eligibility from ever happening again:
Call your State Senator, your State Representative and your Governor and ask them to provide simple legislation to give the Secretary of State the right, responsibility and obligation to confirm eligibility BEFORE ANYONE can go onto the ballot.
Personally, I think the best way to contact them is by phone during business hours, then a follow up by e-mail or mail to the person you talked to, then a follow-up a week or so later, but you can do what you think is best.
Practically, this would require all future candidates to fill out an application with supporting documentation, which could then be checked out by the Secretary of State’s office.
Hope there are many, many people across the country who are willing to do this now for prevention.
Remember..... 2012 is coming!
SAMPLE e-mail (thank you Sons of Liberty)
I emailed my State Representative and State Senator the following:
Dear xxxxx:
During the current election it has come to light that apparently there is no Federal Provision or State Provision to ensure a Presidential candidate’s eligibility before placing their name on ballot. This came to light because Sen. Barack 0bama has steadfastly refused to provide a certified birth certificate showing that he qualifies as “Native Born” as required by Article II Section 1 of the US Constitution.
The applicable section is as follows:
No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.
Furthermore, in Sen. 0Bama’s case, there is good reason to believe he may have at some point renounced his US Citizenship and embraced foreign citizenship, even to the extent of traveling under a foreign passport.
There have been several challenges to Sen. 0Bama’s eligibility in numerous lawsuits filed across the Country. Should he win election, be elected by the Electoral College and sworn in, and then subsequently found to be ineligible, he would be a Usurper and any actions, orders, etc. by him would be null and void. This would spawn a Constitution crisis.
Therefore I request that you submit legislation to the Georgia Legislature that directs the Secretary of State prior to placing an individual’s name on the ballot in Georgia, to verify a Presidential Candidate’s eligibility in accordance with Article II, Section 1 of the US Constitution by personally viewing and verifying certified birth records and to make a good faith attempt to determine if any subsequent actions pertaining to citizenship occurred. This would apply to all candidates for President, including incumbents.
We are required at several times in our life to present valid documentation for things as mundane as drivers licenses, passports, etc. Surely, requiring proof of eligibility for President should require as much.
Thinking.....thinking......thinking.....
Because it shows that his moon is in the Seventh House?
This is old news.
The lord god almighty Hussein Obbama don’t need no stinkin
birth certificate.
He is GOD, dontcha know?
If its true, then the Democrats would just move to change the Constitutional requirement and everyone would go for it because it’s Obama.
It has been out at least a month and it appears that the Constitution is no longer valid in America.America may need a Civil Insurrection.
Oh yes it would. The lawsuits would rain down fast and furious.
hahaha, aint that the truth.
Yes it would; no matter what it said. He has to produce the original or step down. He hasn’t been sworn in yet.
I believe he has until Dec 1st to do this and he will pay dearly if he comes up with a another fake or nothing or a fake story.
And, I don’t care if he has been sworn in; if he is ineligible; he is ineligible.
Roger that. You took the words out of my mouth.
This is hugh and series!! Why haven’t we hurd this before?
Bump for later.
Anyone cut-and-pasting The Californian’s sample e-mail to their Senator should respectfully consider removing the “zero” in 0bama, and using the “capital-O” Obama instead.
This is not over yet. The electors have not met to elect the President. It is within their power to de-certify Obama as not being eligible, and to choose someone else.
I still don’t know why Hawaii gets final say on this. It’s a constitutional issue, Obama has to prove that he was born in the U.S. or he can’t be president. Any voter or citizen should have standing in court to force the release of the original document.
Another way to go about it: A full lower court case, filed with a GOP judge, who would allow witnesses. That way Obies Kenyan granny and other people who were present at his birth could somehow be brought over to testify. Maybe Bush can cut a quick deal with Kenya to make them come.
Worth a try.
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