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Franken's deficit: 236 votes
Minneapolis Star-Tribune ^ | 11/7/08 | Patricia Lopez

Posted on 11/07/2008 6:32:02 AM PST by steve-b

Just as Secretary of State Mark Ritchie was explaining to reporters the recount process in one of the narrowest elections in Minnesota history, an aide rushed in with news: Pine County's Partridge Township had revised its vote total upward -- another 100 votes for Democratic candidate Al Franken, putting him within .011 percentage points of Republican U.S. Sen. Norm Coleman.

The reason for the change? Exhausted county officials had accidentally entered 24 for Franken instead of 124 when the county's final votes were tallied at 5:25 Wednesday morning.

"That's why we have recounts," Ritchie said, surveying the e-mail sent in from the county auditor. "Human error. People make mistakes."

The margin in the tightest Senate race in the country bounced like the stock market throughout the day, with the difference between Coleman and Franken dropping, then rising briefly to 590 votes before shooting down to a razor-thin 236 by day's end.

In a reversal of the previous day, when Coleman had declared victory and suggested that Franken should waive a recount, Coleman kept to himself on Thursday, while Franken called reporters to talk about the prospects for a continued narrowing of the count....

(Excerpt) Read more at startribune.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: coleman; franken; mn2008; senate; votefraud; voting
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To: Egon
only half of Minnesotans must be complete morons-- and they seem to be mostly concentrated in the population centers

When I've looked at the red/blue voting maps, I've always thought the population centers sort of resembled pinPRICKS.

51 posted on 11/07/2008 7:06:02 AM PST by Migraine (Diversity is great... ...until it happens to YOU.)
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To: Egon

Well, yea, but our politicians have ALWAYS been morons ;)


52 posted on 11/07/2008 7:06:58 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (Obama, you are NOT my President!)
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To: steve-b

He is deficient in a lot more ways than just vote tally. :)


53 posted on 11/07/2008 7:07:34 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Jimmah Carter cubed. Obama, the only man in America who can make Hillary Clinton look good.)
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To: drzz

“In 1948, Lydon B. Johnson did the same in Texas - finding “lost” ballots for the Senate race. He was then called Lying Johnson.”

Actually, regarding Lyndon Johnson’s “win,” I recall there being questions about dead people voting; and there was no recount because the ballots were burned in a warehouse fire. After that, he was called “Lucky Lyndon.”


54 posted on 11/07/2008 7:07:43 AM PST by OldNavyVet (Character counts)
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To: kenth

Start looking for ballot boxes in Democrats’ car trunks...


55 posted on 11/07/2008 7:08:46 AM PST by madameguinot (The USA is still the greatest nation on Earth.)
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To: Migraine
When I've looked at the red/blue voting maps, I've always thought the population centers sort of resembled pinPRICKS.

Indeed!

For me, life is good. I drive an hour down to the Twin Cities, work in "San Francisco lite" and head home to relative normalcy at the end of the day.

56 posted on 11/07/2008 7:09:15 AM PST by Egon (The difference between Theory and Practice: In Theory, there is no difference.)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

They will find a bag of uncounted ballots.


57 posted on 11/07/2008 7:09:32 AM PST by dartuser ("If you torture the data long enough, it will confess, even to crimes it did not commit")
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To: Reagan69

I’m sure Franken can find a couple a hundred more votes. Did anyone look under the table in Duluth?


58 posted on 11/07/2008 7:09:44 AM PST by nufsed
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To: Sgt_Schultze

Wait till the democrats get ahold of the 2010 census. Blue state electoral votes will increase exponentially, and gone will be the media push to end the electoral college.


59 posted on 11/07/2008 7:10:15 AM PST by Funee Kat
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To: madameguinot
Start looking for ballot boxes in Democrats’ car trunks...

...hey, maybe they'll find more of the MacDougalds' Guaranty/Whitewater papers there, too!

60 posted on 11/07/2008 7:11:41 AM PST by Migraine (Diversity is great... ...until it happens to YOU.)
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To: steve-b

They need to document every adjustment and then use statistical analysis to determine if these are truly “random” human errors.


61 posted on 11/07/2008 7:11:46 AM PST by DrewsDad
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To: steve-b
He is slight appearance problem.:-)


62 posted on 11/07/2008 7:12:54 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: OldNavyVet

be sure that Al Franken is already spreading fuel in the room if the recount is in his favour. :-)


63 posted on 11/07/2008 7:12:54 AM PST by drzz (I)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Correction:

He ishas slight appearance problem.:-)

64 posted on 11/07/2008 7:13:42 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: kenth

It’s always so amazing when Dems run a “recount” that no new votes are ever found for the Republican.


65 posted on 11/07/2008 7:15:10 AM PST by chickadee
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To: reagan_fanatic
What the hell is wrong with you people in MN?

They're idiotic, uninformed, incompetent, celebrity-worshiping bumpkins.

I should know... I'm surrounded by the same kind of worthless simpletons in my home state of PA.

Screw 'em. I'm moving to Texas.

66 posted on 11/07/2008 7:16:49 AM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (the evil has landed)
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To: steve-b

The man is a comedian for gods sake, with the next 4 years of Obama we are gonna need all the laughs we can get.
We are already in the hole, let them go all the way and embarrass themselves further. What’s the difference now.
Can he possibly do worse than Nancy Pelosi?????
I THINK NOT!


67 posted on 11/07/2008 7:19:16 AM PST by Munz (Infiltrate Interrogate Eradicate NEXT!)
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To: drzz
He was then called Lying Johnson.

According to LBJ's biography by his brother, the ncikname was "Landslide Lyndon".

68 posted on 11/07/2008 7:20:43 AM PST by TheRightGuy (ERROR CODE 018974523: Random Tagline Compiler Failure)
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To: drzz

The Lyndon Johnson 1948 “win” story is found at

http://74.125.95.104/search?q=cache:Ju-7d9xtuPcJ:www.texasmonthly.com/cms/story.php%3Fissue%3D1998-11-01%26file%3Dreporter.php%26pageNum%3D1%26itemTitle%3D+Lyndon+burned+%221948+election%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=6&gl=us

From that source, we have ...

“She may never get her wish; according to one longtime observer of Alice politics, the search for Box 13 is certain to be fruitless. “The ballots were burned that night in the Ranch Motel, and the tally sheet was taken across the border by some of George Parr’s men,” the source claims. “Box 13 was probably burned along with everything else.” And how did the source come by this bit of information? “You can hear it from the horse’s mouth.”


69 posted on 11/07/2008 7:21:16 AM PST by OldNavyVet (Character counts)
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To: what_not2007
I simply cannot believe folks take Al Franken seriously.

Who was Minnesota's last governor?

70 posted on 11/07/2008 7:22:44 AM PST by tbpiper
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To: steve-b

Hate to say this, but wouldn’t it be fun as Franken in the Senate...he’d make the ass clowns look worse than they already do. It would help Americans sober up after a very bad hanger.


71 posted on 11/07/2008 7:22:53 AM PST by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: steve-b

Another hundred votes for Franken??? *Whew!* Keep looking, guys!!! /s


72 posted on 11/07/2008 7:26:20 AM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: All

I’ll venture a rare opinion here.

It’s all legitimate. 24 vs 124 would be at the precinct level. That is not recounting votes. That is redoing math. Someone made an error. Some other errors were made during yesterday and fixed and they benefited Coleman.

The recount will be of paper ballots. The machines are excellent and made no errors. The hand count will vary from the machines by about 5 votes statewide.

Coleman will win by approximately the present margin.


73 posted on 11/07/2008 7:27:44 AM PST by Owen
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To: steve-b

You’re whistling Dixie if you think Coleman will hold this seat!! The RATS will prevail, even if they go to the cemeteries and get the extra votes they need. Hate to say it but American Democracy is dead. The USSS (United States of Socialists States) is alive and well. Kruschev said he “will bury us” and we laughed....thank you RATS!!


74 posted on 11/07/2008 7:29:13 AM PST by kenmcg (cOMMBYAH)
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To: Egon

You never know about da Range. Sometimes those folks can surprise you.


75 posted on 11/07/2008 7:29:22 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: steve-b

The RATS will dig up the necessary votes.


76 posted on 11/07/2008 7:29:50 AM PST by Redleg Duke ("Sarah Palin...Unleashing the Fury of the Castrated Left!")
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To: steve-b

I don’t understand how anyone could vote for Franken. But then, we just saw the results of mass hysteria in the Presidential election, so I shouldn’t be surprised.


77 posted on 11/07/2008 7:34:46 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (liberalism = serious mental deficiency)
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To: steve-b

It is being guided by auto-pilot at this point. There is no way to counter this kind of “trickle down” vote counting.


78 posted on 11/07/2008 7:39:55 AM PST by Religion and Politics
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To: drzz

no. it was Landslide Lyndon.

It is pretty bad when you have to steal an election in your own state to become a US Senator. And then to top that off !.. kill a President in your own state in order to become President.


79 posted on 11/07/2008 7:44:28 AM PST by se_ohio_young_conservative (Our party is at war. and those who do not support Palin will be backed into the ocean.)
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To: steve-b

I knew the fix was in when the secretary of state spoke about determining the “intent of the voter”. Florida redux.


80 posted on 11/07/2008 7:46:21 AM PST by randog (What the...?!)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
They use Optical Scanners for hand filled out ballots in all the MN precincts.

It's beyond me why they don't use these everywhere. I have lived in a number of jurisdictions where they are used, and not only do they generate a verifiable paper trail, but they're pretty much idiot-proof and not prone to machine-related problems. (i.e. optical scanning is a proven technology, but if the scanner breaks, just count by hand.)
81 posted on 11/07/2008 7:52:42 AM PST by July 4th
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To: soycd
"The rats will cheat, lie and make crap up to win every time."

Yet, if a Republican so much as forgets to submit a receipt for a Happt Meal at McDonalds, choruses and headlines of "CHEATER" will be seen and heard from the MSM and DemocRATS.

82 posted on 11/07/2008 7:55:42 AM PST by AC-130 Gunship (Odinga-Hussein 0bama: D@mning us all to a "vibrant" hell of "diversity" and Marxism.)
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To: randog
“intent of the voter”. Florida redux.

Aaaw, geeeez...Not that s**t again.

83 posted on 11/07/2008 7:56:50 AM PST by AC-130 Gunship (Odinga-Hussein 0bama: D@mning us all to a "vibrant" hell of "diversity" and Marxism.)
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To: steve-b

Oh, hell, the solution is simple. Call McCain and he’ll suggest Franken and Colemen server as “co-senators”.


84 posted on 11/07/2008 7:58:59 AM PST by Terry Mross ( It's just a matter of time before we're all 'GUILTY' of hate speech.)
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To: steve-b; All

It’s very curious how they only find Dem votes.

Freep the vote thieves. The Dems may steal enough of these Senate races to get to 58 or even 59 Senate seats!

secretary.state@state.mn.us
ax: 651-215-0682


85 posted on 11/07/2008 7:59:10 AM PST by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: drzz

wow.


86 posted on 11/07/2008 8:00:45 AM PST by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: chickadee
"It’s always so amazing when Dems run a “recount” that no new votes are ever found for the Republican."

How 'bout that "coincidence"??

And remember how the Dems stole a Washington State Senate seat a couple/few years ago in virtually the same scenario?

87 posted on 11/07/2008 8:00:46 AM PST by AC-130 Gunship (Odinga-Hussein 0bama: D@mning us all to a "vibrant" hell of "diversity" and Marxism.)
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To: steve-b

A ballot box that was left in someone’s car trunk election night containing 300 or so “votes” from a “minority” neighborhood will be “found” if past history in places like Washington state are any indication. Then they’ll stop counting.


88 posted on 11/07/2008 8:04:05 AM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: steve-b

I don’t believe this for a minute.


89 posted on 11/07/2008 8:16:45 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: nufsed

That’s the way I see LBJ, it became clear to me in the same way as it did to you. He wanted the office of president and the only was he was ever going to get it was to get JFK out of the way. I have read almost everything about LBJ and that is the way I see him, there will be others along soon to say you and I are idiots.


90 posted on 11/07/2008 8:17:16 AM PST by Ditter
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To: steve-b

Lyndon Johnson did, “win,” the 1948 senate race the same way Franken is doing it now! Is there no way to check and see if the,”exhausted,” worker really did make that incredible clerical error, or if it is simply a lie. This is the way elections are stolen, and it must be stopped.


91 posted on 11/07/2008 8:19:32 AM PST by webbrowser
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To: VOA
Minnesotans must be complete morons for this to be even close.

We now see that we have an entire nation of morons.

92 posted on 11/07/2008 8:21:00 AM PST by TennTuxedo
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To: steve-b

It’s amazing how these “mistakes” always seem to favor the scumbag Democrats.


93 posted on 11/07/2008 8:21:01 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: steve-b

They elected Jesse in the ‘90’s and the may elect Franken. Minnesota is such a joke and deserves to be laughed at.

Ya know, Prince should run for Govenor up there and those silly scandinavians would vote for him in a landslide.

The only thing I can conclude is the long term exposure to Lutefisk causes brain damage.


94 posted on 11/07/2008 8:24:39 AM PST by TMA62 (TMA62)
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To: Ditter
I don't pretend to know the "true" story, but I don't see how anyone can deny he had motive.

Your fellow idiot

95 posted on 11/07/2008 8:29:45 AM PST by nufsed
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To: gore_sux_2000

“Is there no decent, patriotic statesman of a Democrat on the planet.” ~ gore_sux_2000

No. Pogo was right.

“This was such an enormous Democratic year that even John Murtha won his congressional seat in Pennsylvania after calling his constituents racists.

It turns out they’re not racists — they’re retards. ..

Apparently Florida voters didn’t mind Obama’s palling around with Palestinian activist Rashid Khalidi and Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, either.

There must be a whole bunch of retired Pennsylvania Jews down there. ..

The Reign of Lame Falls Mainly on McCain
by Ann Coulter 11/05/2008 ET
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?print=yes&id=29385


96 posted on 11/07/2008 8:32:31 AM PST by Matchett-PI (Saul Alinsky's radical operatives have succeeded beyond his wildest dreams.)
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To: kenmcg

USSA = UNION of SOCIALIST STATES of AMERICA


97 posted on 11/07/2008 8:40:00 AM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: kenmcg

USSA = UNION of SOCIALIST STATES of AMERICA


98 posted on 11/07/2008 8:40:02 AM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: BradyLS

Sorry for the double post...


99 posted on 11/07/2008 8:40:28 AM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Egon

Never met anyone from MN that wasn’t a little squirrely.


100 posted on 11/07/2008 8:44:53 AM PST by mikhailovich
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