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Let the campaign for 2012 begin
AP ^ | 11-09-08 | AP

Posted on 11/09/2008 12:35:24 PM PST by TaxPayer2000

WASHINGTON (AP) — Let the 2012 presidential race begin — or at least the speculation about it.

From their travel schedules to their public comments, several Republicans seem to be testing the waters for potential White House runs. At least two are on tap for visits this month to Iowa, which traditionally opens the nominating season with its presidential caucuses.

Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, considered a rising star in the GOP and thought to be on John McCain's short list of potential running mates, is slated to deliver the keynote address on Nov. 22 to the Iowa Family Policy Center, a prominent Christian conservative group.

And former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, who won the Iowa caucuses this year in his failed bid for the GOP nomination, is scheduled to visit the state on Nov. 20 as part of a nationwide book tour promoting his campaign memoir, "Do the Right Thing."

Sarah Palin, who became McCain's running mate, has signaled that she will remain on the national political scene. The Alaska governor says: "I'm not doing this for naught." And former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, who also failed to win the nomination this year, has restarted his political action committee.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: 2012; gopprimary; jindal; palin
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1 posted on 11/09/2008 12:35:24 PM PST by TaxPayer2000
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To: TaxPayer2000

The GOP has got to find a way to sell Californians on conservatism — otherwise......


2 posted on 11/09/2008 12:36:03 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: TaxPayer2000

Would a “stupid, dim witted” woman even be able to use the word ‘naught’ correctly?


3 posted on 11/09/2008 12:38:56 PM PST by ozark hilljilly (Obama lies, the Constitution dies)
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To: BenLurkin
The GOP has got to find a way to sell Californians on conservatism — otherwise......

What? California already has a "republican" governor

/sarcasm>

4 posted on 11/09/2008 12:39:01 PM PST by TaxPayer2000 (The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government,)
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To: TaxPayer2000

We also have to fix the broken primary process-—how can we ensure that ONLY repubs vote in the primaries this time?? that is how we got McLame in the first place...if we even think about running someone like Sarah and haven’t remedied that situation, we can forget it...


5 posted on 11/09/2008 12:39:06 PM PST by MountainWoman
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To: TaxPayer2000

You can forget about Jindal now too. Between now and 2012, the MSM will do everything in their power to discredit him.


6 posted on 11/09/2008 12:40:20 PM PST by Phoenix11
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To: BenLurkin
Which brings me to information nugget yah may want to ponder...

Romney recently bought at house in La Jolla, CALIFORNIA ;-)

Let the games begin!

7 posted on 11/09/2008 12:40:40 PM PST by NordP (PALIN POWER: She's Reagan in heels, Teddy Roosevelt in a dress & like Rummy at a press conference!)
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To: ozark hilljilly

Again, I always say what is said and how a person reacts to Sarah Palin says WELL MORE about them, than her.


8 posted on 11/09/2008 12:42:21 PM PST by NordP (PALIN POWER: She's Reagan in heels, Teddy Roosevelt in a dress & like Rummy at a press conference!)
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To: TaxPayer2000
The fight for 2012 starts now?

Maybe we could a week off perhaps?

9 posted on 11/09/2008 12:42:25 PM PST by wolf24 ("Slavery, even with the consent of the enslaved, is still slavery.")
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To: MountainWoman
We also have to fix the broken primary process-—how can we ensure that ONLY repubs vote in the primaries this time?? that is how we got McLame in the first place...if we even think about running someone like Sarah and haven’t remedied that situation, we can forget it...

Good point. With Obama, we're almost sure to have a reverse "Operation Chaos" process.

10 posted on 11/09/2008 12:43:31 PM PST by Al B.
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To: TaxPayer2000
Come on, let's fight- each other!


The candidates that want the nomination will start working for it... let's wish them all luck at finding a strategy to win.
If we approve of it, of course.

11 posted on 11/09/2008 12:44:08 PM PST by mrsmith
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To: TaxPayer2000

No to Huckabee. He’s a vindictive a hole.
He more than anyone gave us McDole due to his hate for Romney.


12 posted on 11/09/2008 12:44:30 PM PST by nhwingut (,)
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To: BenLurkin
First, we don't know if these guys are really conservative.

What need to happen before any of these doofusses are allowed to run is that we, conservative, lay out and identify conservative values. Then we see if any of these wannabees meet and agree with those values.

If they do, then they get our support. If they don't, then we don't support them.

Furthermore, if we help them get elected and they don't toe the mark, then we get them unelected.

Finally, it doesn't matter which party they belong, but if they believe in and take conservative values to congress. And most of all, they do not fall into the corruption trap that all the rest of them belong.

p.s. Go to Charlie Daniels web blog. He says it better than I.

13 posted on 11/09/2008 12:44:31 PM PST by Parmy
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To: TaxPayer2000

If Obama gets away with not being a US born citizen, does this mean Arnold can run in 2012? (quizzical look)


14 posted on 11/09/2008 12:44:55 PM PST by Paige ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing," Edmund Burke)
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To: Al B.

i was checking out the RNC rules and regs this morning and it gave me a damn headache and confused the hell out of me. We need to do some digging and figure out what the steps are to fix this problem...is it petitioning? writing letters or emails? We’ve got to do something people—first things first...


15 posted on 11/09/2008 12:46:36 PM PST by MountainWoman
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To: MountainWoman
"how can we ensure that ONLY repubs vote in the primaries this time?"

Yes, the glaring fault this year was that there was no enthusiasm until Governor Palin came on the scene.
Contributions and volounteers need to come out early for an effective ground game. They don't come from non-Republican voters.

That overrides any advantage from letting Dems and Independents vote.

16 posted on 11/09/2008 12:49:21 PM PST by mrsmith
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To: BenLurkin

The GOP has got to find a way to sell Californians on conservatism — otherwise......
***Break up the state into 3 or 4.


17 posted on 11/09/2008 12:49:46 PM PST by Kevmo (Palin/Hunter 2012)
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To: mrsmith

Ok, but why should the GET to vote in our primary??? what is the advantage?? why should they have a say in who is going to represent OUR party??? (i’m not yelling at you...my blood pressure has been a little high over the last week. :)


18 posted on 11/09/2008 12:55:29 PM PST by MountainWoman
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To: MountainWoman
I'm not sure what the RNC can do but it needs to be at least looked into. Primaries are controlled by the individual states. Here in Texas for instance, anyone can vote in whatever primary they want to, but only one primary. Democrats, since Obama will likely be unopposed, can vote in the Republican primary.

This is a problem. Zero would dispatch his minions to vote against any strong candidate, especially a woman like Gov. Palin.

19 posted on 11/09/2008 12:59:10 PM PST by Al B.
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To: MountainWoman

No. That’s not how we got McCain. Quite simply, the primary was too divisive between too many candidates, and McCain was the one left standing. By the time the Romney, Huck and Thompson camps were done savaging each other, only McCain was left. IMHO, the bitter infighting between those 3 is what gave McCain the nod.

That said, McCain is a good guy who had nothing but the best interest of the nation in mind. It sickens me to see him called a traiter and worse here on FR. Irony of irony, most of it seems to be coming from supports of his own VP pick these days. Disgusting.


20 posted on 11/09/2008 12:59:20 PM PST by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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To: TaxPayer2000

Where do we sign up to help Bobby Jindal?


21 posted on 11/09/2008 12:59:32 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: BenLurkin

Well taxes up the wazoo are coming from all sides for California.

That might loosen up the grip here.

Charismatic party leaders are key too.

Boxer is up for re-election 2010.


22 posted on 11/09/2008 12:59:34 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares (Refusing to kneel before the socialist messiah.)
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To: MountainWoman
The idea is that independents are going to vote in the election and it is a good idea to get their input.

Well, that's true- but their input can come from reputable polling and be given due consideration by Republican primary voters.

It's actually insulting to assume we wouldn't consider the electibility of the nominee- "elitist" even.

23 posted on 11/09/2008 12:59:59 PM PST by mrsmith
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To: BenLurkin

No Romney as Romneycare in Mass is a disaster and during the Michigan primary he made too many big government promises.

No Huckabee as he’s not a conservative.

Palin will have to undertake some massive PR to remake her image.


24 posted on 11/09/2008 1:00:34 PM PST by discomatic
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To: TaxPayer2000
"Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, who also failed to win the nomination this year,
and whose knives still have the coppery smell of Gov.Palin's childrens' blood on them
has restarted his political action committee."

There, fixed it for you.


25 posted on 11/09/2008 1:03:29 PM PST by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Kevmo

Works for me.


26 posted on 11/09/2008 1:04:15 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: TaxPayer2000

How about 2010 for starters?


27 posted on 11/09/2008 1:04:54 PM PST by ex-snook ("But above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: MountainWoman; Free ThinkerNY; romanesq

Priority, IMO, is exposing the illegal campaign contributions used by the Messiah and the voter fraud that stole battleground states. Next, 2010 is the next target. Vote everyone up for re-election OUT! Two years to find conservative candidates and to expose the corruption in DC; name names and provide the proof.


28 posted on 11/09/2008 1:07:51 PM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Al B.; mssmith

yes, my thoughts exactly, Al.

Ok, so if it’s determined by the state how they hold thier primaries, what can be done to open them only to Repubs and Indies. MsSmith makes a good point about needing indies input, since they will be voting in the general...i’m assuming we have to appeal to the our own states RNC, but how? can the registered repubs in that state make a case to the RNC to change the policy on the primaries???


29 posted on 11/09/2008 1:08:05 PM PST by MountainWoman
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To: ozark hilljilly

Would a “stupid, dim witted” woman even be able to use the word ‘naught’ correctly?
__________________________________________________________

Well, Jethro Bodine could do it.


30 posted on 11/09/2008 1:08:44 PM PST by bumperpool
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To: Phoenix11

I seriously doubt it. I talked to a political reporter in LA this past week, and this reporter gushed over Jindal and his Chief of Staff Timmy Teepell. He said nothing but good things about both, he mentioned the upcoming speech in Iowa and he called Bobby “honest.” This reporter made it clear to me that Bobby is very smart, very articulate and a dedicated conservative who will be a strong contender for the WH in 2012 if chooses to run. I say Go Bobby Go!


31 posted on 11/09/2008 1:09:52 PM PST by moose2004 (Drill, Drill, Drill, Drill, Drill, Drll And Then Drill Some More)
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To: Melas
Still that doesn't quite go to her point since they were fighting for the non-Republican voters who would be voting.
The dynamics would have been different if they were competing only for Republican voters. That group would have a larger fraction of conservatives.

It would probably have still been a pathetic primary though. Everything was pathetic this election...

Yeah, and it's pathetic to se McCain savaged too. At least he tried desperately to win.

32 posted on 11/09/2008 1:10:30 PM PST by mrsmith
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To: bumperpool

“Well, Jethro Bodine could do it.”

Source, please?


33 posted on 11/09/2008 1:12:30 PM PST by ozark hilljilly (Obama lies, the Constitution dies)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

That’s a good start—but how is it going to get legs...Zero owns the media and ACORN will be given a free pass...plus, look at all these clowns in congress who have a single digit approval rating who just got voted back in?? Jesus!! what is wrong with people!!!???


34 posted on 11/09/2008 1:13:20 PM PST by MountainWoman
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To: MountainWoman

Under controlling US Supreme Court precedents, the GOP could close its primaries if it wished to do so. There would be political and court fights over doing so, but it could be done by the various state and national party executive committees.


35 posted on 11/09/2008 1:18:15 PM PST by Rockingham
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To: Melas

Melas, you’re right, McCain ,i’m sure, had the best interest of the country in mind. obviously he’s a patriot and NOT a traitor...but why hasn’t he come to the defense of Palin? She being attacked from people in her own party and you hear nothing but silence from him...why?


36 posted on 11/09/2008 1:21:43 PM PST by MountainWoman
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To: MountainWoman
I would imagine most state primary rules are governed by the state legislatures. I'm not sure what the RNC can do about that, beyond trying to exert whatever influence they can on the individual legislatures. Other than that, the RNC would have to consider rewriting the rules for selecting their candidate. I don't think that's feasible. JMO.

IMO it's not a major problem except that we're dealing with Obama. He'll have a group of bloc voters that will do whatever he says. Just my $.02.

37 posted on 11/09/2008 1:23:07 PM PST by Al B.
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To: TaxPayer2000

No need to wait until 2012 ...... should be able to get seats in Congress back in 2010. Demos will screw things up so badly, public will be mad.


38 posted on 11/09/2008 1:25:47 PM PST by pleikumud
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To: TaxPayer2000
all wrong....the battle begins now for 2010!

we must increase if not take back the Senate and the House....

this is where the battle will be won...

we as conservatives may not ever win back the White House.....we don't need too....

we need a 40 yr hold on the House and Senate.....we need more governorships.....we need to control more state legislatures.....

thats where we begin.....

after Clinton was elected with about 55% vote against him, in two years, we took the House and the Senate....

lets do it again....

39 posted on 11/09/2008 1:36:20 PM PST by cherry
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To: Melas
John McCain is a war hero and comes from a long line of patriots...

I don't agree with him and most of what he believes in, but he in all his faults IS far, far better than anything hussein has to offer....

having said all that, he was too "nice" and his own work...McCain Feingold killed his own campaign as well as many other Pubs through out the country..the story of losing some of these House seats and Senate seats is one of 527's giving huge sums of money..

I will support any reasonable Pub candidate, because it defeats the rat.

40 posted on 11/09/2008 1:45:52 PM PST by cherry
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To: TaxPayer2000

The RINO’s and the Democrat/Media Complex (DMC) have already destroyed Palin, unfortunately. As you notice, the DMC went into full attack mode on Nov 5th to make sure she was fully destroyed as they saw her as a major threat. All the Obama supporters I talk to considered Palin a major threat - until the DMC finished the job on her over the last week.

Remains to been seen if she can overcome this unjust treatment.


41 posted on 11/09/2008 1:46:41 PM PST by FTL
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To: Diogenesis

You are ridiculous.


42 posted on 11/09/2008 1:48:50 PM PST by libbylu
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To: Parmy

I’ve always thought the Party Platform should precede everything else, more or less as the Constitution precedes everything else.

Platform first, candidates take it or leave it. And those who leave it, leave the Party.


43 posted on 11/09/2008 2:10:13 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: mrsmith
NY Daily News 10/1/08 by Patrick Huguenin.
“President-elect Barack Obama aimed for and captured the youth vote, with exit polls reporting that approximately two-thirds of all voters under 30 answered his cry of “Yes, we can”.
Obama’s success in bringing in the “Hip Hop” vote was the work of a groundbreaking grass-roots effort to keep in touch with young voters, some of it conducted by the most seemingly simple means:text message.
So what did Barack Obama’s campaign do? They said, “If you send me your cell phone number, I'll text you who my VP pick is before I tell the media. Millions of people text in their cell phone numbers and yes, they got texts abut the VP, but they also got a bunch of texts that were like, “Have you gone to vote in your polling location yet? Do you know you can vote early in your state? Have you done so? Have you taken your buddies?
Obama has a grasp of the Internet. (early on, he hired Facebook.com co-founder Chris Hughes as part of his online support team. ...People who haven't worked on campaigns say, “Oh, he ran a good campaign”. Keli Goff said, “No, you don't understand the level of intensity and the follow-through that are how he won this. Especially with what eople like to call underrepresented voters. He engaged them in a way that no one had before.”
Keli Goff is a BET contributor and the author of “Party Crashing: How the Hip Hop Generation Declared Political Independence.”
The Obama campaign melded a big budget media assault of TV airtime and Internet social networking with a comprehensive effort to follow up with individual voters.
We have to trust our young people, with their great knowledge of Internet and cell phone communication, to help rebuild our base.
We have to fight fire with fire. Or our America is lost.
44 posted on 11/09/2008 2:10:46 PM PST by JEANNIEMAC (Obama, HOW HE WON, campaign, Internet, text messages, Hip Hop generation,)
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To: Unam Sanctam

I’m definitely on board to do everything I can to make Governor Bobby Jindal our nominee in 2012 and the 45th President of the United States.

To those boosting Sarah Palin, please ask yourself why? I keep up with politics fairly well and I had barely heard a thing about her before McCain selected her as VP. I like the woman, and by all accounts she has been a successful Governor of AK, but before that selection was made would you have honestly considered her to be a top pick for the VP, much less for POTUS? Let’s be honest and call her selection for what it primarily was....identity politics. Yes folks, she was selected in large part because she was a woman. That is a game that Democrats will beat us at every time. True Bobby Jindal is a non-white Governor, but to those who might consider his ascension within our ranks as ID politics, just watch the man in action. Look at his performance in his state. Look at his stellar handling of the recent hurricanes. Look at his academic credentials. Look at him in interviews! There are no “deer in the headlights” moments to be found. It’s inconceivable that he would ever say something like “I’ll just have to get back to ya” (ugh). Please don’t take it upon yourselves to go on a mission of political suicide in order to vindicate Sarah Palin in 2012. We need to nominate our best and brightest if we want to have a chance in the next election.

Bobby Jindal in 2012!


45 posted on 11/09/2008 2:10:56 PM PST by Reggie1971
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To: TaxPayer2000

The RINO powerbrokers in Washington think that we can only win if we reach across the aisle, compromise with liberals, and be “moderate”. Of course, the MSM are in lock step with them, not idealogically but practically. They will go crazy opposing Palin, Huckabee, and Jindal becuse these candidates are too conservative. Unless the Republican party wakes up we will get another candidate in the mould of John McCain. A lot of people will be saying, “I’ll just hold my nose and pull the lever for the lesser of two evils ... but I really don’t like him”.


46 posted on 11/09/2008 2:14:42 PM PST by Designed
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To: Reggie1971

47 posted on 11/09/2008 2:16:40 PM PST by timestax ( CNNLIES)
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To: timestax

48 posted on 11/09/2008 2:22:24 PM PST by timestax ( CNNLIES)
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To: timestax

A good resume beats an attractive campaign poster:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Jindal

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=27408


49 posted on 11/09/2008 2:29:54 PM PST by Reggie1971
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To: JEANNIEMAC
The key to that scheme was enthusiasm. It's infectious.

I wonder if anyone will still be texting in 2012.

50 posted on 11/09/2008 3:52:50 PM PST by mrsmith
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