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‘Intellectuals’ (Thomas Sowell)
Jewish World Review ^ | November 11, 2008 | Thomas Sowell

Posted on 11/10/2008 7:47:23 PM PST by jazusamo

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To: jazusamo
"But Stevenson had the airs of an intellectual — the form, rather than the substance."

I have encountered the above since and including high school. The most obvious example today is Barack Obama.

Furthermore, there are some lacking in form but have the intellect. I can think of some good examples, but will leave it at that.

41 posted on 11/10/2008 9:12:45 PM PST by TAdams8591 (McCain/Palin ' 08 (Obama IS a socialist!))
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To: jazusamo

Adlai Stevenson was also a bit effeminate, which tended to set him apart as a true intellectual in form. Kerry had much of that form, AlGore some of it, including a heavy lisp.

The Demo concept of the intellectual is quite old fashioned and appears to us as.... an intellectual eunuch. Left over from the time when few people had college educations it is concept which has lost much of its pull over time because of the intellectual’s tendency to accomplish little of worth. In orther words, intellectuals are not men of action, but men who sit and think a lot and are of little use to the country.

The real intellectuals are the engineers who design our space ships, our fighters, our computers. Want some complexity? Try designing a processor with 10 billion operatinal amplifiers that multitasks. Or a fire control system for our fighters that will track and kill 32 enemy figters. Much more complex than readings of Marcus Aurelius, you betcha.
The anti-intellectualism that is referred to is nothing more than anti-aristocracy and it is fully justified.


42 posted on 11/10/2008 9:14:54 PM PST by texmexis best
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To: jazusamo
"But the ignorance of Ph.D.s is still ignorance and high-IQ groupthink is still groupthink, which is the antithesis of real thinking."

A great line. And what Liberals inspire.

43 posted on 11/10/2008 9:16:45 PM PST by TAdams8591 (McCain/Palin ' 08 (Obama IS a socialist!))
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To: jazusamo
Intellectuals, according to Mr. Kristof, are people who are "interested in ideas and comfortable with complexity,"...the trouble with being wrapped up in ideas all the time is that those ideas rarely touch back to the concrete, real world and can lead those immersed in them down some really out of the way detours...was it Orwell or Huxley who said "one would have to be an intellectual to believe such a thing - no ordinary man could be so foolish"?.....
44 posted on 11/10/2008 9:21:11 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: jazusamo

>> Intellectuals, according to Mr. Kristof, are people who are “interested in ideas and comfortable with complexity,” people who “read the classics.”

Interesting. I guess for what remains complex, one must get used to it. Now, how many husbands read the classics.


45 posted on 11/10/2008 9:22:23 PM PST by Gene Eric
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To: jazusamo

Supposedly, if Michael Medved is correct, Carter has one of the highest IQ’s of the modern presidents. That well correlates to his low performance.


46 posted on 11/10/2008 9:22:23 PM PST by TAdams8591 (McCain/Palin ' 08 (Obama IS a socialist!))
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To: texmexis best

Well stated. My only acquaintance of someone like you speak of was a distant relative and an engineer for JPL, he is brilliant and now retired. Not the least bit snobbish but limited in many subjects that average people talk about. I was fascinated when he would talk about unclassified areas of his work though there was some I couldn’t understand.


47 posted on 11/10/2008 9:29:56 PM PST by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: TAdams8591

Thanks, I didn’t know that but believe you are correct.


48 posted on 11/10/2008 9:32:44 PM PST by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: jazusamo

You are always welcome! : )


49 posted on 11/10/2008 9:36:05 PM PST by TAdams8591 (McCain/Palin ' 08 (Obama IS a socialist!))
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To: texmexis best

Riffing off you thoughts, I’ve found that a great preponderance of “intellectuals” are innumerate as a toddler - ie, they have no mathematical training or education, they have no concept of numbers and are completely gullible in the face of someone spouting random statistics posing as facts, because they have no internal “gut check” on the numbers.

One of my favorites from the early 90’s was debating someone on gun crime stats in California. This guy (a liberal arts major, well read in “the classics” no doubt) popped out with a stat that XYZ policy resulted in a reduction of 168% of crome stat ABC.”

At this, I looked like someone had just passed gas in public. I asked “After the first 100% reduction, where does the next 68% reduction come from?”

He was completely non-plussed, and repeated his claim. I said “Look, when you reduce something by 100%, it is ALL GONE. How can you reduce something more when you’ve completely eliminated it?!”

The audience sat up and agreed with me, and the ‘intellectual’ suddenly realized he was out to lunch - and then some.

Yet, until I pointed it out, this guy had the bit firmly in his teeth and was wow’ing the crowd.

This is the sort of thing that engineers crucify fellow engineers for. You’d never hear an engineer or scientist (especially a physics guy) pop out with this sort of mistake, because if they did in front of other engineers/scientists, they’d be crucified immediately.

Yet “intellectuals” who think “I don’t need calculus, my man, I’ve read Yeats!” have the public completely bamboozled into thinking they’re smart because they’re such suave talkers.

In todays’ public policy environment, we need more engineers/scientists not only running for office, we need more of them to step up to the plate in educating the public by any means possible. Thanks to the NEA, today’s school and college graduates are just woefully innumerate.


50 posted on 11/10/2008 9:37:49 PM PST by NVDave
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To: jazusamo
Intellectuals only exist if you think they do.
51 posted on 11/10/2008 9:40:41 PM PST by TigersEye (I want some pie.)
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To: jazusamo

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k6KUDv1wzraWhwlBt1

“Intellectuals” are some of the dumbest people you will ever meet, the things they believe would make your head spin.

The most dangerous people on the planet are “intellectuals” with soft science degrees from Ivy League schools, unfortunately that includes the Bushes.

The last good President we had graduated from Eureka College.


52 posted on 11/10/2008 9:44:31 PM PST by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: word_warrior_bob
The last good President we had graduated from Eureka College.

I couldn't agree more with your post, especially the above.

I viewed that video of Yuri Bezmenov a few days ago and it's excellent, he tells it like it is. Thanks for posting it.

53 posted on 11/10/2008 9:52:11 PM PST by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: jazusamo

Peanut farmers deserved the respect of calling Carter an intellectual.


54 posted on 11/10/2008 9:52:47 PM PST by lonestar
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
I'd be happy to forward you the curriculum for Columbia College's Core. When you have finished it, get back to me.
There is nothing trivial or archaic about the touchstone writings of Western Civilization. Your comment is a mirror of that taken by the deconstructionist and multicultural left. Sadly, whereas they know and hate the West, you are proud of your ignorance.
55 posted on 11/10/2008 9:58:40 PM PST by rmlew (NYARLATHOTEP / BIDEN'08 . If you don't believe me check out the first's wikipedia page.)
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To: jazusamo
Thomas Sowell at his best.....

"That is one of many reasons why intellectuals are not taken as seriously by others as they take themselves."

Zing!!!

56 posted on 11/10/2008 10:00:27 PM PST by HardStarboard ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule - Mencken knew Obama)
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To: jazusamo

I remember Truman being dismissed as a a mere haberdasher by his harshest critics while I also remember his exit being the most principled leave of office ever, where today the leeches cling as tenaciously as roaches inured to the constant swats refuse to die, armoring themselves long past the point reason could possibly justify.

For Truman it was but a hat, for the rest it has become a costume ball where all vie for the grand prize.


57 posted on 11/10/2008 10:02:39 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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To: Seven Minute Maniac

A modern intellectual is one whose mind is dirtier than his hands, his tongue is well-scrubbed and his demeanor is proudly inscrutable.


58 posted on 11/10/2008 10:07:32 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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To: widowithfoursons
>>>Thomas Sowell would have had my vote for President. <<<

He could have mine....any time! But I suspect he's too smart to want the job even though supremely capable.*

*Dare I say "overqualified" given the last three Presidents - plus the current President Elect!

59 posted on 11/10/2008 10:07:40 PM PST by HardStarboard ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule - Mencken knew Obama)
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To: jazusamo
It remains somewhat of a derivative of Mencken's “Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public.”
60 posted on 11/10/2008 10:11:43 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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